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Post by ferrit »

Well. I own half a surf. :D

Except it doesnt go :cry:

Its a KZN130 surf halfcut. cut behind the front seats, just behind the rear drive flange.

It cranks over fine- no worries with that at all, but it wont fire. I have fuel at the filter, and at the pump, but if you break the injector unions, no fuel there.

Elecy gremlins i think.



Any ideas guys? (and ive asked on the surf site too... just getting more opinions!)
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Post by Sic Lux »

Check if you have power at the fuel cut off solinoid if not you can just run a wire from the battery to it. To stop it disconect it, easy.
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Post by ferrit »

bit more complex on the EFI diesels, they dont have a "solenoid" as such, they have a "Spill control valve" thats linked in with the ECU.

Its probably a dodgy wiring plug somewhere, i just didnt have the patience to crawl all over the thing tonight in the dark.
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Post by Sic Lux »

Check all the fusses that shoud help point you in the right direction to where it is then have fun :lol:
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Post by ferrit »

It also could just be air in the pump refusing to budge.

Just for info- the "spill control valve" is what controls the fueling rate of the pump, and is dependent on ECU signals to ensure you always get correct fueling- helps efficiency and cuts down smoke.


And if its broken, its a new fuel pump! :shock:
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Post by Lux_89 »

hey ferrit, make sure you do a build up on the donk swap, ive considered doin this when mine dies, how much for the front cut did you pay? just pm if ya need to cheers m8
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Post by ferrit »

Surfy NOW worky! :lol:

Helps a heap when the spill control valve is actually plugged into the loom... theres a lot of random plugs disconected on this halfcut- i think someone in japan is playing silly buggers! :lol:

Lux_89- I paid $5500 for the cut, for a 89,000km 3.0TD manual.

And build up thread will be happening, i just have to pay for the sodding halfcut first :oops:

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Post by v6hilux »

Sic Lux wrote:Check if you have power at the fuel cut off solinoid if not you can just run a wire from the battery to it. To stop it disconect it, easy.
Glad you didn't take this advice and cause $600 damage to the Spill valve that works from 5 volts from the ECU. Glad you didn't destroy the ECU by connecting 13.8 volts to it at the Spill valve connector.
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Post by 302 cruiser »

i think even if he did take this advise he would have noticed the disconected wire. dont you!!!!
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Post by Sic Lux »

Hence why i said check first ;) and is diffrent pump setup to what i was thinking. Worked sweet on my pos to get me out of a spot :lol:
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Post by ferrit »

yeah- works fine on the POS in the lux at the moment- Everything on that is 12v :P

Well i dont have any speedo at the moment... gotta work that one out? Want to find out how fast it will go in 5th at the limiter! :D
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Post by v6hilux »

Sic Lux wrote: is diffrent pump setup to what i was thinking.
Yep sure is. For those that don't know the difference, this is the mechanical advance pump with 12V solenoid plug at rear;

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This is the electronic advance pump with ECU controlled Spill Valve;

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