as they are likely to get squished anyway and once the fill with mud etc they are going to be a PITA to put back on ..
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Attaching Flares - Dzus Fasteners
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If they are that expensive do you really want em on your little car anyway .. or is that more for the "bling bling chaple st factor" as they are likely to get squished anyway and once the fill with mud etc they are going to be a PITA to put back on ..
as they are likely to get squished anyway and once the fill with mud etc they are going to be a PITA to put back on .." If governments are involved in the covering up the knowledge of aliens, Then they are doing a much better job of it than they do of everything else "
love_mud wrote:If they are that expensive do you really want em on your little car anyway .. or is that more for the "bling bling chaple st factor"
hense my reasoning for looking for an alternative...
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awill4x4 wrote:Greg, like everything, dzus fasteners come in various styles and sizes.
Are you after removable dzus' or the spring loaded type which remain in place. We use dzus' all the time at work on the sprintcars we build and repair, if you're in the Carrum Downs area you can always call in to have a look at the various types available.
Another option, if you're drilling holes in you guards is to use nutserts or rivnuts as these will give a permanent thread you simply screw nuts into.
They are fixed to the panel using a special tool similar to a pop rivet gun.
They would probably be a cheaper option than dzus fasteners and much better than tec screws.
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I agree with this method, the nutserts (also called a polynut) are pretty cheap, you can get them in ally and gold passivate for corrosion resistance. I used to use the rivet gun style machine when I was a signwriter for installing the nutsert, but was a real pain in the long term, ended up using a modified air drill. Nowadays I don't have access to those tools, so I made up my own nutserter tool with a bolt, a few washers and the serrated nut from a dynabolt. Available in ISO metric and BSW (might be others available, but cost and stock will be a problem) so shouldn't be hard to locate some wingnut head bolts for quick release/fastening.
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Ok what about making a hole like the attached pic to the body (Just realised it is upside down - the hole should be at the top with the slot pointing down). Then on the bracket on the flare have a bolt head that sticks out a couple of mms. Slot the bolt into the hole and let it slide down the slot. Easy to remove/put on, neat and cheap
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grimbo wrote:Ok what about making a hole like the attached pic to the body (Just realised it is upside down - the hole should be at the top with the slot pointing down). Then on the bracket on the flare have a bolt head that sticks out a couple of mms. Slot the bolt into the hole and let it slide down the slot. Easy to remove/put on, neat and cheap
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grimbo wrote:Ok what about making a hole like the attached pic to the body (Just realised it is upside down - the hole should be at the top with the slot pointing down). Then on the bracket on the flare have a bolt head that sticks out a couple of mms. Slot the bolt into the hole and let it slide down the slot. Easy to remove/put on, neat and cheap
Great idea, but the reality of making an accurate slotted hole as pictured would be more difficult than the solution is worth. It would need to be punched, and getting the die base behind some panels might prove difficult.
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grimbo wrote:I was actually thinking a little low tech. Get a big drill bit and make the large hole then use a smaller drill bit and make the slot with it. On something like Greg's or my Zuks, appearance is not the number 1 priority
Yep, I hear you. I agree, simplicity is always best.
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Thanks for the suggestions guys...
There are a few good ideas in there, and at the moment the wingnut setup seems like the most ideal...
There are a few issues with the others - let me explain:
1. Velcro - the mounting surface on the car will be the actual panel - so i reckon that it won't look the best, plus after a day on the trails - the velcro is going to be choked with mud so it will be a bit of a pain.
2. press studs - this would work great if either the flare or the panel were flexible but i don't expect them to be very much so as one is fibreglass and the other is - well steel...
3. tech screws - i don't think it will work well over a period of time and will pretty quicky chew out the holes in the panel i suspect.
The other good thing with the wing nut (which was also the good part of using the dzus setup) is that they have the ability to clamp the two sufaces together a bit when mounted - this will be helpful since the panels don't tend to stay super straight for very long...
thanks for the input guys... i'll let you know how i progress.
cheers
There are a few good ideas in there, and at the moment the wingnut setup seems like the most ideal...
There are a few issues with the others - let me explain:
1. Velcro - the mounting surface on the car will be the actual panel - so i reckon that it won't look the best, plus after a day on the trails - the velcro is going to be choked with mud so it will be a bit of a pain.
2. press studs - this would work great if either the flare or the panel were flexible but i don't expect them to be very much so as one is fibreglass and the other is - well steel...
3. tech screws - i don't think it will work well over a period of time and will pretty quicky chew out the holes in the panel i suspect.
The other good thing with the wing nut (which was also the good part of using the dzus setup) is that they have the ability to clamp the two sufaces together a bit when mounted - this will be helpful since the panels don't tend to stay super straight for very long...
thanks for the input guys... i'll let you know how i progress.
cheers
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hahaha - thanks for the compliment NAM, but i'd hardly say that i'm a rockcrawler... there's not really enough rock around here is there?
Tojo - the flares are only on the make the car more legal on the road.
They are also made out of fibreglass and in my opinion would quickly be damaged by passing logs / trees / banks / rocks... so i expect they will last longer if i remove them.
Tojo - the flares are only on the make the car more legal on the road.
They are also made out of fibreglass and in my opinion would quickly be damaged by passing logs / trees / banks / rocks... so i expect they will last longer if i remove them.
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Greg,
I have some modified Jeep Wrangler flares on the front of my rig and they are bolted on with the help of nutserts (rivenuts).
The Jeep flares have a sort flange on the inside that runs parallel to the body work so it's quite easy to make them fit. It might be a little bit of a pain in the arse to take them off every time you go wheeling but it wouldnt really take that long.
My recommendation is go the nutserts. (BTW, I paid about $40 for the tool and a box of nutserts (100) is about $30).
I have some modified Jeep Wrangler flares on the front of my rig and they are bolted on with the help of nutserts (rivenuts).
The Jeep flares have a sort flange on the inside that runs parallel to the body work so it's quite easy to make them fit. It might be a little bit of a pain in the arse to take them off every time you go wheeling but it wouldnt really take that long.
My recommendation is go the nutserts. (BTW, I paid about $40 for the tool and a box of nutserts (100) is about $30).
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