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Another SASd j top

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Another SASd j top

Post by WACKO »

hi all, im embarking on a SAS project. ive got a 93 jtop 3ltr v6. had it for about 4 years now. got it standard. first i did a ball joint flip and wound up the torsions, then added 33s, then springs in the rear. removed swaybars and rear bumper. brought a written off diesel and got the 5.285 diffs and arear locker from it and a few odds and sodds. also did a 2"body lift to borrow a friends 35s for a trip. now i was fed up with idler arms giving up and my front bushes were worn out so after seeing jtops, hes local to me, and another he did, and franks on here i was sold.



so found a front diif out of a competition 4x4 local to me that already had the pumpkin swaped, and custom strengthened axles and cvs (hilux centre and 70series crusier hubs/outers) for a good price so grabed it.

now i had some trailing arms off the paj i wrecked so im going to use them for the radius arms, and do a 3 link(?).

have already choped out the front suspension, and geting close to making up the mounts.
where it all started.
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the housing as i got it.
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kinda in place, with some safari front springs, but they are looking to big so will be looking into others.
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now a question i have been wondering, why does everyone remove/move that bar that goes between the chassis rails with the powersteer pipe(?) on it?

any advise or thoughts greatly recieved.

Sam
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Post by NJV6 »

HI Sam,

Good to see you here. From what i understand and looking at mine - do you mean that welded in crossmember tube?

If so then it is taken out to get an extra couple of inches clearance. You can see it hangs down a bit.

Wecome by the way. Make sure you keep the pic's coming... :D
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Post by WACKO »

yip. that sounds like the one. thought it might just be for clearance but i wasnt sure if it had a deeper meaning.
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Post by WACKO »

we got the radius arm boxes finished last night.

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roughly where it will go.

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Post by NJV6 »

Wicked.

Can't recall.... Your using Pajero or Range Rover arms?



Nice Welding by the way
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Post by WACKO »

paj... at the mo, paj arms, safari springs, safari (maybe custom) panhard.

have designed the spring mounts but may have to alter them a bit. will see when we make them up.
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Post by WACKO »

hahhah... nice welding... yes it is aye.. pity its not mine! :P
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Post by j-top paj »

another SAS Jtop :cool: :armsup:
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Post by WACKO »

bit of an update.

i have choped the cross member out of the front and the radius arm mount boxes have been tacked in place on the chassis. last night we bolted up the radius arms in properly and set the diff up were it needs to go but i didnt get photos yet.

it has also been decided that i cant use the standard pajero steering box so i will have to go toyota like the other SASs i have seen. trying to find a prado (bundy over in oz i think) box for a decent price at the moment.

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Post by NJV6 »

HURRY UP :finger:

This poor vehicle hasn't been anywhere since about October!
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Post by j-top paj »

yeh whats happening dude :?
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Post by WACKO »

hahhah.. shush up nj! :finger: get your ute done! mine has been parked up since june i think!

its coming along slowly.. has to be running by the end of march as thats when i have to be out of my mates shed idealy... it will get there.

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Post by lilpigzuk »

I think I was last too ride in it - june 07 :oops:
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Post by doddzee »

Yeah hurry up sam, whats the hold up?? ;)
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Post by NJV6 »

doddzee wrote:Yeah hurry up sam, whats the hold up?? ;)

:lol: :finger: :lol:
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Post by HotAe92 »

All that work and only using a 3-link? Don't get me wrong, I mean anything is better than the IFS setup, but I can't justify the fact that if your going to SAS - why not go the full haul.

Cheers,
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Post by doddzee »

HotAe92 wrote:All that work and only using a 3-link? Don't get me wrong, I mean anything is better than the IFS setup, but I can't justify the fact that if your going to SAS - why not go the full haul.

Cheers,
Jayden
Its easy to set up, im helping wacko with this and its the first SAS we have done. Long term plan is to extend the wheel base and fit an a-frame in the rear. The 3 link will have better road going manners as well.
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Post by WACKO »

radius arm mounts are now tacked where they need to go...
and have aquired some coil overs that will make life a whole lot easier if they work out. and have a power steering box from a prado (bundy?) on its way. thanks njv6.

anyway.. heres some pics..

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Post by WACKO »

worked out the front driveshaft last night. measured up to get the existing one shortened, worked out to be about 30mm to long...

then remembered that when i put the diesel diffs in i had to use the diesel d/shaft as it was a bit longer. so shot home and got the old petrol one...
it fitted perfect!!!! :armsup: :armsup: all i had to do was redrill the pinion flange bolt holes and it should all bolt up.. good if i damage one too.std is easy.

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Post by NJV6 »

Are you there yet? Are you there yet? Are you there yet? Are you there yet? :finger:
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Post by WACKO »

it now can sit on the suspensin but we havent done the panhard yet so its still not left for long. also had a bit of trouble with the coilover hoops, as they were hitting the prado steering box so we had to notch a bit of the drivers side hoop and also ended up completely modifing them after we thought they were done. but they too now are sorted.

tomorro we do the pan hard and hope to finish mounting the steering box, if time allows.

a pic of the coilovers we are using
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can kinda see the notched bit
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sitting with weight on the coilovers
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Post by WACKO »

almost done! amazing what a real deadline will do for your motivation!

sun we did the panhard mount and welded the shock hoops in properly and put in the second crossmember. also sorted the length of the panhard which is a shortened gq safari front panhad. that still has to be made into an adjustable, but its fine for now.

today (mon), we did the steering box mount box with crush tubes and checked the diff housing didnt warp with all the welding. its all looking good so partially assembled.

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all left to do is adatapt the steering shaft to the PS box, trying at the moment to use the toy uni joint and put it in the paj shaft. looking promising so far. that should be done tue night, then do the p/s fluid lines, hope they wont cause to many problems and the break lines too, but may wait till its home to finish them. will be doing the ifs hub conversion at home too i think.

but its all coming together nicely!!!!

BIG UPS TO DODDZEE!!! :armsup: :armsup: :armsup:

Sam

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Post by mad geordies »

brilliant just brill mate
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Post by NJV6 »

Ooow yea, looking hot dude, especially that steering box - reckon I've seen it before!!!!

But all good. Hope it sits level now! :D
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Post by WACKO »

got the steering shaft in tonight. used the prado bit that attaches to the steering box as the prado has a bigger spline than the pajero. used the cross from the prado uni joint (left it in the prado part) and put it into the pajero shaft bit, with pajero roller bearings. took a few times to get the rollers in correctly but after about 2hrs of pissing around it all went together.

hope that makes sence to someone. im not sure of the actual names of the bits.

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Post by WACKO »

well its rolling and home. still have to do the wide axle conversion, break lines and steering lines and tierods. was a bit unnerving driving it on and off the trailer with no breaks or steering! :lol:

a bit higher than the neighbours paj....
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and the flatemates terrano...
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have decided i want to take out the bodylift now also. drop it down a bit.

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Post by niblik »

:twisted:

mint fella... lookin the nuts bud... two thumbs up even.. :D
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Post by 95shorty »

nearly looks good enough to make me want to start mine now!! :twisted:
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Post by Shorti »

Want to do mine :D
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Post by WACKO »

thats how i felt every time i saw the other threads on here.. hahah

cant wait till i can afford 35s!

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