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Does anyone want a driveshaft spacer? sharing frieght....

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Does anyone want a driveshaft spacer? sharing frieght....

Post by dank »

Hi guys, i'm going to order a spidertrax anodised 1 inch driveshaft spacer through lockedup4x4 the price is $32.00AUD. the shipping is $45.00AUD.

I've been informed that I can ship two for that amount so I was wondering if anyone would be interested in sharing the frieght charge for one driveshaft spacer. Pref in Vic as easier to manage, but interstate you can organise the local frieght through lockedup4x4.com. you can get these spacers in different thicknesses as well.

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Post by suzuki boy »

Would this save any stress on my rear dive line? Just replaced it all and i wanna minimise the stress......
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Post by Gwagensteve »

Suzukiboy, Driveshaft spacers actually make angles WORSE, they are only useful for fixing length related issues.

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Post by dank »

suzuki boy wrote:Would this save any stress on my rear dive line? Just replaced it all and i wanna minimise the stress......
by installing a driveshaft spacer you will reduce the stress on the splines in the driveshaft. when you have lifted springs, extended shackles, moved diff you increase the distance between the diff and transfer leaving a smaller contact patch on the yoke splines as it has to extend further to reach the diff if you get my drift. A spacer will return that distance to closer to stock. you don't want to go too big a spacer though as the pinion angle will increase and may bind under articulation. thats my view on spacers anyway...someone might want to clarify.

I've got a one inch spacer in the front and need to put one in the back as I have moved both diffs one inch forward on front and rearward on the back diff + 2inch springs + 2 inch shackles...
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Post by v6hilux »

Those puresuki.com plain spacers are not as bling as spidertrax anodised spacers!

dank, do they do a spacer for 89-95 Hilux as well?
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Post by Gwagensteve »

dank wrote: by installing a driveshaft spacer you will reduce the stress on the splines in the driveshaft. when you have lifted springs, extended shackles, moved diff you increase the distance between the diff and transfer leaving a smaller contact patch on the yoke splines as it has to extend further to reach the diff if you get my drift. A spacer will return that distance to closer to stock. you don't want to go too big a spacer though as the pinion angle will increase and may bind under articulation. thats my view on spacers anyway...someone might want to clarify.

I've got a one inch spacer in the front and need to put one in the back as I have moved both diffs one inch forward on front and rearward on the back diff + 2inch springs + 2 inch shackles...
Don't think I'm having a go, but there's a couple of different concepts going on here.

A) Longer shackles on a sierra will increase driveshaft engagement not reduce it.

B) Don't confuse "stress" with "wear" a driveshaft with 1" of spline engaged suffers the same stress as a drivshaft with 4" of spline engaged, but the less pline engaged the faster the wear. Yes, I know the force is concentrated in a smaller area, so it is more highly "stressed" but that will manifest itself in faster wear.

C) driveshaft spacers INCREASE stress on unis as they increase their operating angle, so installing a driveshaft spacer could be said to increase stress on the drvieline.

D) the primary use for spacers is to prevent the driveshaft from falling apart on full droop, and to increase spline engagement to make the shaft run smoother and last longer.

I'm not sure what suzukibpoy had in mind when he spoke of driveline "stress" which is why I raised the uni issue - it is important for the rear of lifted SWB cars.

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Post by sierrajim »

Gwagensteve wrote: Don't think I'm having a go, but there's a couple of different concepts going on here.

A) Longer shackles on a sierra will increase driveshaft engagement not reduce it.

B) Don't confuse "stress" with "wear" a driveshaft with 1" of spline engaged suffers the same stress as a drivshaft with 4" of spline engaged, but the less pline engaged the faster the wear. Yes, I know the force is concentrated in a smaller area, so it is more highly "stressed" but that will manifest itself in faster wear.

C) driveshaft spacers INCREASE stress on unis as they increase their operating angle, so installing a driveshaft spacer could be said to increase stress on the drvieline.

D) the primary use for spacers is to prevent the driveshaft from falling apart on full droop, and to increase spline engagement to make the shaft run smoother and last longer.

I'm not sure what suzukibpoy had in mind when he spoke of driveline "stress" which is why I raised the uni issue - it is important for the rear of lifted SWB cars.

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a) extended shackles point the pinion more towards the transfer, This is more likely to reduce uni angle
b)I think he means "spread the load over a greater area". But yes, an extended slip yolk would focus the load on a smaller area "stressing the yolk" due to it operating outside of its design perameters
c) only if your car is lifted. If your car is stock height with extended wheelbase your uni angle will return to standard
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Post by v6hilux »

In a Hilux, it means returning the spline back to where it should be when it comes to lift with IFS in the front.
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Post by suzuki boy »

I get what your all sayin! Sounds like i dont need one hasn't fallen out(Drive shaft spline out from the other end!) yet so i guesse it probably wont!

I'm running 2" extended shackles and 2" lifted springs(Sagged) So probably about stock anyway!

By stress i mean my rig has been off the road sence bathurst weekend! Bent transfer mount, brocken rear drive shaft(Broke at the uni but took the shaft with it!), rear bearings, rear axels where bent, and the springs inside my detroit!

Stress just got too much for it but i know when it all would of started..... At the rock in nerim then the next weekend it just all let go! Should be on the road next week but if i can reduce stress i'll do it any way possible!
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Post by built4thrashing »

your driveline wear is nore about the way you drive not the angle of the dangle.

The hardest thing on a driveline is shockl;oades like from dropping the clutch or getting grip suddenly with a spinning wheel.

smooth out ya driving style and things shouldnt break as often.
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Post by suzuki boy »

Yeah i know what your sayin i ussually crawl every where but wouldn't let the rock at nerim beat me....... :bad-words:

Cost me a sh!t load and now i'll go back to crawl everything try a few times or else winch.....

And maintain it this time..... :oops:
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