spotlight height in Qld

[Red04VXE]

• Apart from any pillar or other part of the vehicle’s structure or fittings, there are internal
obstructions to a driver’s view through the swept area of the windscreen.

• Windows are not free of posters, stickers or other non transparent materials which would
interfere with the driver’s vision.

[mkpatrol]

here is a link to code of practice page, the same rules and regs we have to use when doing a RWC check. the info should be in one of the links

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home/Re ... _practice/


it states that the main HIGH beam lights may be fitted at any hight

AIS INFORMATION SHEET No. 1(a)
CODE OF PRACTICE
COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE MODIFICATION CODES

Headlights
Some new factory fitted headlights may appear to have a blue or yellow tinge. Advice from
the federal Department of Transport and Regional Services (formerly the Federal Office of
Road Safety) is that these colours can sometimes be seen on some of the new technology
lights when viewed from the side. However, these lights do emit white light in the required
angles and comply with the ADR’s.
Note that a main (high) beam headlight under the ADR’s, and now under TO(RUM-VSS),
may be fitted at any height above the ground compared to the previous height of 0.6 m to 1.4
m in the Traffic Regulation 1962.

They also must be fitted at the front of the vehicle which makes roof mounted lights questionable.

So if they are at the front then the field of veiw requirements come into play as well.

So if you had say a cabover 4WD & had your light bar fitted to the roof above the windscreen & the lights did not impair the drivers ability to drive the vehicle than that would theoretically be ok but if you are pulled over for lights on the roof of your every day 4WD wagon then I would expect to get questioned about the legality.

Also ADR13 only applies to vehicles built after 1 Jan 1989 so any vehicle built before that have to comply with the MVSR which does actually have a max height for high beam & driving lamps.

[-Scott-]

here is a link to code of practice page, the same rules and regs we have to use when doing a RWC check. the info should be in one of the links

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home/Re ... _practice/


it states that the main HIGH beam lights may be fitted at any hight

AIS INFORMATION SHEET No. 1(a)
CODE OF PRACTICE
COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE MODIFICATION CODES

Headlights
Some new factory fitted headlights may appear to have a blue or yellow tinge. Advice from
the federal Department of Transport and Regional Services (formerly the Federal Office of
Road Safety) is that these colours can sometimes be seen on some of the new technology
lights when viewed from the side. However, these lights do emit white light in the required
angles and comply with the ADR’s.
Note that a main (high) beam headlight under the ADR’s, and now under TO(RUM-VSS),
may be fitted at any height above the ground compared to the previous height of 0.6 m to 1.4
m in the Traffic Regulation 1962.

They also must be fitted at the front of the vehicle which makes roof mounted lights questionable.

So if they are at the front then the field of veiw requirements come into play as well.

So if you had say a cabover 4WD & had your light bar fitted to the roof above the windscreen & the lights did not impair the drivers ability to drive the vehicle than that would theoretically be ok but if you are pulled over for lights on the roof of your every day 4WD wagon then I would expect to get questioned about the legality.

Also ADR13 only applies to vehicles built after 1 Jan 1989 so any vehicle built before that have to comply with the MVSR which does actually have a max height for high beam & driving lamps.

The information sheet also says

COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE MODIFICATION CODES

Will these rules apply to passenger vehicles? What are 4wds considered these days - commercial or passenger?

Is there still a limit for the number of forward facing lights switched on at any time? (For on-road use only - anything goes off-road. )

[frp88]

here is a link to code of practice page, the same rules and regs we have to use when doing a RWC check. the info should be in one of the links

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home/Re ... _practice/


it states that the main HIGH beam lights may be fitted at any hight

AIS INFORMATION SHEET No. 1(a)
CODE OF PRACTICE
COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE MODIFICATION CODES

Headlights
Some new factory fitted headlights may appear to have a blue or yellow tinge. Advice from
the federal Department of Transport and Regional Services (formerly the Federal Office of
Road Safety) is that these colours can sometimes be seen on some of the new technology
lights when viewed from the side. However, these lights do emit white light in the required
angles and comply with the ADR’s.
Note that a main (high) beam headlight under the ADR’s, and now under TO(RUM-VSS),
may be fitted at any height above the ground compared to the previous height of 0.6 m to 1.4
m in the Traffic Regulation 1962.

They also must be fitted at the front of the vehicle which makes roof mounted lights questionable.

So if they are at the front then the field of veiw requirements come into play as well.

So if you had say a cabover 4WD & had your light bar fitted to the roof above the windscreen & the lights did not impair the drivers ability to drive the vehicle than that would theoretically be ok but if you are pulled over for lights on the roof of your every day 4WD wagon then I would expect to get questioned about the legality.

Also ADR13 only applies to vehicles built after 1 Jan 1989 so any vehicle built before that have to comply with the MVSR which does actually have a max height for high beam & driving lamps.

My middy was build in 1988

[mkpatrol]

here is a link to code of practice page, the same rules and regs we have to use when doing a RWC check. the info should be in one of the links

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home/Re ... _practice/


it states that the main HIGH beam lights may be fitted at any hight

AIS INFORMATION SHEET No. 1(a)
CODE OF PRACTICE
COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE MODIFICATION CODES

Headlights
Some new factory fitted headlights may appear to have a blue or yellow tinge. Advice from
the federal Department of Transport and Regional Services (formerly the Federal Office of
Road Safety) is that these colours can sometimes be seen on some of the new technology
lights when viewed from the side. However, these lights do emit white light in the required
angles and comply with the ADR’s.
Note that a main (high) beam headlight under the ADR’s, and now under TO(RUM-VSS),
may be fitted at any height above the ground compared to the previous height of 0.6 m to 1.4
m in the Traffic Regulation 1962.

They also must be fitted at the front of the vehicle which makes roof mounted lights questionable.

So if they are at the front then the field of veiw requirements come into play as well.

So if you had say a cabover 4WD & had your light bar fitted to the roof above the windscreen & the lights did not impair the drivers ability to drive the vehicle than that would theoretically be ok but if you are pulled over for lights on the roof of your every day 4WD wagon then I would expect to get questioned about the legality.

Also ADR13 only applies to vehicles built after 1 Jan 1989 so any vehicle built before that have to comply with the MVSR which does actually have a max height for high beam & driving lamps.

The information sheet also says

COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE MODIFICATION CODES

Will these rules apply to passenger vehicles? What are 4wds considered these days - commercial or passenger?

Is there still a limit for the number of forward facing lights switched on at any time? (For on-road use only - anything goes off-road. )

If you look at ADR13 it applies to all passenger & commercial vehicles except motocycles.

"2 Dipped beam" (low beam)
"2 or four main beam" (high beam)
"2 or 4 driving lamps"

" All lamps must constitute a pair symmetrical" so if you have 3 driving lamps you could get a defect for that although its unlikely as that is getting pretty pedantic but you never know.

If the road is gazetted regardless if it is a fire trail or not then the rules still apply it is just that no one is there to enforce them.

As far as what 4WD's are considered it depends on the ADR vehicle category, my old GQ is NA category which means it is classed as a commercial vehicle but everything that has 7 seats is usually MC category. There is a calculation in the ADR's that you can use to work out if the vehicle is commercial or passenger.

I saw the commercial bit but was just using examples

[Potter]

From the QLD modification quide, http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/resourc ... an05v2.pdf

have a look through this page 6 has the info on lights

[maty]

this is only a Guide....
http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/resourc ... an05v2.pdf

does anyone know where I can find this legislation...

Transport Operations
(Road Use Management - Vehicle Standards and Safety)
Regulation 1999.

Cheers Mat

[HeathGQ]

go to www.transport.qld.gov.au, use the search engine, and look for it... its there

[dattopimp]

I had a pair of Narva Taurus bull lamps on my roof as well as 2 smaller ones for ages and never had a problem with cops. Actually had a few conversations with cops while my car was right there with the lights and the lights never got brought up.

I think their meant to be illegal but actually policing it...

[antt]

had my truck enginered with 35"s,larger brake booster,disk conversion,
ect but at the end of the day big $$$$ & only worth the paper its written on.
if the law has it in for you,,your gooorrne,& all that shite I did is out the window now as I run 37"s

yours is registered in nsw is it not?

ive never seen 35's engineered in qld

[pigletracing]

yep. rgd nsw,could do more down there,but the guy does all states, could have been QLD, but would need 33"tyres, but a the end of the day its only
an expensive bit of paper,that realy dosent hold much weight,the pig will be rgd QLD this year,just for convienance just sounds like anther fedral revanue raiser to me !!! & face it.... to do the comps we are in,the rigs have to be moded this way to be sort of competitave,it would be a lot easier & cheaper if the rigs didnt need to rgd to compete,as most of us cant drive em to comps anymore anyway,,,,,but thats another topic altogether

[92mav]

took the patrol up to the police station today to grt it signed off as i have fixed up formentioned defects and now they want me to change the steering wheel as i have a saas sports wheel and apparently it doesnt meet adrs as it doesn't have a padded centre what a load of crap as far as i know my 92 gq only has to apply to adr 10 not ADR69 .Anyone have a better insight into this as these pricks are giving me the shits

[Sic Lux]

You could Q them on that (And i'd say your right) but might be easier and less of a shit fight if you just get a stock wheel wack it on go for a drive up the get them to clear the notice and then go home and change it back.

[92mav]

[You could Q them on that (And i'd say your right) but might be easier and less of a shit fight if you just get a stock wheel wack it on go for a drive up the get them to clear the notice and then go home and change it back.]

iknow but they pick one thing then another. the police officer said that i could only have 31's on the GQ when i quieried this and said i thought the gq came from the factory with a 16' rim and 32's onsome i was told i was deffinetly wrong and they didn't come with 32's not wanting an argument i said as much and commented that i couldn't wait untill the unified code came in. tTo which i was told this wouldn't be the case "as big tyres make cars unsafe" what a pig.[/quote]

[zagan]

I think it may be something to do with danger to pedestrians if you hit them or something, the often frown apon spotties that stick above the bonnet line and bullbar.

Lol, 5th gear did a test on this, with dummies.

They had a land rover nothing in the front.

They had a sedan or medium sized car.


They drove each car at 20 miles intyo the dummies.

If you hit someonewith the land rover they would probably stay alive, becuase they basicly only get bent over the bonnet so only get broken ribs organs pissing out boold etc, nothing major.

If you hit someone with a car you'll break both their legs, bust their guts up and as their head hits (maybe smash) the wind screen as well cause major head damage or kill them on the spot due to a spike of glass going through their head.

Anyway, I though only speed killed people caused crashes, since when didspot lights cause crashes?

[zagan]

iknow but they pick one thing then another. the police officer said that i could only have 31's on the GQ when i quieried this and said i thought the gq came from the factory with a 16' rim and 32's onsome i was told i was deffinetly wrong and they didn't come with 32's not wanting an argument i said as much and commented that i couldn't wait untill the unified code came in. tTo which i was told this wouldn't be the case "as big tyres make cars unsafe" what a pig.

The other problem, you have the fedral gov doing ADRs, then the states fiddle with them.

Then coppers make up shit on the side.

[mkpatrol]

took the patrol up to the police station today to grt it signed off as i have fixed up formentioned defects and now they want me to change the steering wheel as i have a saas sports wheel and apparently it doesnt meet adrs as it doesn't have a padded centre what a load of crap as far as i know my 92 gq only has to apply to adr 10 not ADR69 .Anyone have a better insight into this as these pricks are giving me the shits

Yeah ADR10 is correct, ADR69 didnt come into effect until 96 & later for smaller commercials but not for larger commercials.

Sometimes the aftermarket wheels can comply to ADR10, I would double check that but he will have you if the state rules say that the wheel must be padded.

ADR10 does not specifically say it must be padded. It is more of a whole steering column test & if SAAS have tested the wheel so it will noot affect the OEM column then he cannot knock you back.

[92mav]

went to court today and got fined $75 what a wank. whats worse is the amount of money i lost at work today

[def90]

it's just bad luck i think if you get a cop who pulls you over the coals for mods like that, i've been pulled over countless times for RBT's, random licence checks, etc in my fender - and it they've never cared at all the mods, etc on her.

[v6hilux]

went to court today and got fined $75 what a wank.

It's time to plead "not guilty" on the first appearance. Then the next court date is set and you go home till then. When you next appear, change your plea to Guilty Your Worship!

This will cost the state a lot more than the $75 fine!

[bogged]

When you are checking the 11m, make sure your seat is in the correct position. Did you get a copy of the rule? If not get a copy & follow it word for word & you should be ok.

When I got my GQ engineerd yrs back, i asked bout the spotties on top of the bar, the engineer said "They re fine, then ADR somehting, X mtrs infront of car, I had no problem seeing past them" etc...

But the rule says you hvae to see a certain item 11mtrs away.. I thought it was 3mtrs.. but what is this ITEM?? A brick, a match? a person? a car? they all make great levels if difference

[bogged]

yep. rgd nsw,could do more down there,but the guy does all states

Who is he? Lookin to increase GVM on GU Patrol, nobody in Vic knows shit, but apparently NSW its a formality, but the NSW engineer has to be licensed in Vic to have it Pass.

[-Scott-]

Lookin to increase GVM on GU Patrol, nobody in Vic knows shit,

When I engineered my Paj I tried to get the GVM uprated to that of the LWB because all the running gear (axles/suspension/bushes/brakes) are the same (or better.) The engineer said he needed to be seen to do some analysis - so he wanted to pull the axles and do some measurements, make some calculations, which would all add to $$$. So I didn't do it.

I can't see why an engineer couldn't offer a "package" - check out the specs, do some calculations, offer a set of "conditions".

Particular vehicle (e.g. GU 4.2td) with specified suspension mods (e.g. spring rate above xx lb/in) is good for X GVM increase. Once the engineer has done the initial groundwork )calcuations) it shouldn't be much harder than "tick the boxes" to issue a conservative GVM upgrade.

[pigletracing]

another QLD rig owner off to court for the new hooning law,,,
aparently cops followed him into the servo, then went over his rig..
he got done for 35" tyres & suspension height. so the story goes...
THIS SHITS ME AS A COMP RIG OWNER !!!!!!!!!
im tired of having to waste money on rego that is required by competition organisers,to compete in THEIR COMPS under THEIR RULES with our rigs set to THEIR SPECIFICATIONS,whitch makes our rigs ilegal to drive on the road.
they already have 2 classes. CLASS 1 *CHALLENGE CLASS.
CLASS 2 *FACTORY MOD or TOURING CLASS.
the factory mod or touring class should be the registered class, but the challenge class should be unregistered, I know for events like OBC there is a lot of road travle,but under some sporting rules IE cams,the rigs get event passes for the sections they need to travle,& cams rego/licences ect still works out cheaper than car rego