objects in mud

Post by **germo** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 8:53 pm

does anyone else have the problem of hitting items of junk in the mud?

I went out to show a mate how well my zuk goes with the front diff welded up. we went up a few hills and it went well, then I decided to go through a mud hole that we had been in before. instead of lots of revs and hoping I wouldn't get stuck. I was confident and so just crawled through, until I hit a big bump and drove over it. the big bump turned out to be a trolley someone had thrown in there. have no idea what damage it did, but I was hung up and got pulled out backwards. NOT the best way to show how well your truck goes, but it happens.

Post by **marin** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 8:59 pm

ROFL..... not quite the type of obstacles u expect to encounter.........

Post by **Drafty** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:06 pm

How deep was this hole for a trolly not to be visible in it :?:

Post by **bogged** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:07 pm

Bent the lip of a 15x7 in a puddle.. we had been thru it one way, this was comin back thru, Cammo wanted a BIG splash (he was only just 3 at the time), and in I went on the loud pedal, until it went BANG on a log.. That sucked, the spare was a Kumho MT unbalanced, from Wombat back home - 3 hours.

Post by **hypo** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:41 am

yes that sux i dragged a rear diff housing out of a hole with my zook once. but that was a long time ago... and i have noticed that all the hols out a sugarloaf and killy have got smoe sort of crap in them

Post by **4sum4** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:55 am

I hit a fridge and ripped my side wall open and beyond that there was blocks of conrete with reo sticking out of them and other bogs in the area had diffs exhaust and tyres.

Post by **MY45** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:27 am

Concrete with reo up at the watagans and a piece if I channel running across one of the bog holes = 2" gash in my sidewall

Post by **bj on roids** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:49 am

ROCKS RULE!! :armsup:

Post by **MY45** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 8:51 am

bj on roids wrote:ROCKS RULE!!

Ken oath...... :armsup:

Post by **dumbdunce** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 8:53 am

bj on roids wrote:ROCKS RULE!!

hell yeah. mud is shite, even if you don't bust something immediately it only takes a tiny bit to get past a seal somewhere and there's expensive fixings to do. its crap.

rocks, dirt, sand, deep water crossings, snow, grass, all good, but mud blows goats.

Post by **spazbot** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 8:56 am

And that is why mud sucks
its crap, rocks and big Dry hills, atleast you can see the obstical your about to drive into.

Post by **Guy** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:02 am

I suppose yall want a white line painted up the middle of the track as well :finger:

.. Perhaps you should stick to speedbumps at the local mall so as not to damage your bling bling bits ...

Now keep the replies down while I go out and replace my wheel bearings for the 4th time in 3000 Kms

Post by **V8Patrol** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:32 am

I concur

Post by **MY45** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:39 am

love_mud wrote:Now keep the replies down while I go out and replace my wheel bearings for the 4th time in 3000 Kms

Just did that last week (Pain in the arse) ......They were totaly distroyed, but probably hadn't been changed in 230 000 km

Post by **Dozoor** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:29 pm

Out on a sat arvo , in my old zook Alias the ARDVARK ,
A friend was having a drive there was a mud hole on the track , Just a normal flat track and what looks like a mud puddle , hes driveng along into this puddle , Next DDDown goes the left about four and a half feet,
Bonnet is now covered with water part up the screen and he backs of big angle happening , I yelled gas it -- The next bounced out the other side at about 7,000 rpm just ! Was just like somone had dug this thing to
wreck 4xs, Down the track a bit more the temp gets a little high ,
so we pull over to have look, There was not one blade left on the fan all
had been torn off :shock:

Lucky it only flatenned the rad fins ain a circle but hadnt spilt any water . hehe had to waite till 10pm so there was no traffic and drove it from menia to gosford with no fan , and it didn't overheat once , Zoooooksss

Post by **landy_man** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:42 pm

I love mud....not bogholes...MUD - there is a big difference between slop filled holes and steep slimy tracks...
bogholes will destroy your car....living in Vic. does not help, you sort of have to go through them occassionaly...to get to the good tracks, but too many people go tearing into them without having a look see...

luckily - the tracks we usually drive are not easy to get to and no one is going to drag a pharkin fridge all the way there......

If you are bashing into shopping trolleys - get out of the mall :lol:

Post by **bogged** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:59 pm

Dozoor wrote: hehe had to waite till 10pm so there was no traffic and drove it from menia to gosford with no fan , and it didn't overheat once , Zoooooksss

Phuckin hell!!! thats a journey and a half with no fan!

Post by **Bitsamissin** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:47 pm

Yes it is a bit of an issue..............
See a lot of rutted tracks with logs and stuff put in the tram tracks because a vehicle or vehicles obviously didn't have the clearance.
Happens in bogholes as well, guppy's filling in the ruts with logs, worst I've seen is a bent rim and some unseated tyres but it is annoying.
But having said that I have seen some thoughtful offroaders make signs warning traffic of a hidden obstacle or a track collapse that you just can't see until your on top of it.

Post by **Guy** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:30 am

bogged wrote:
Dozoor wrote: hehe had to waite till 10pm so there was no traffic and drove it from menia to gosford with no fan , and it didn't overheat once , Zoooooksss

Phuckin hell!!! thats a journey and a half with no fan!

A few weeks back I managed an entire day in 35+ heat after filling the rad with mud at Mt Dissapointment on one of the first tracks of the day .. motor was hot but only "boiled" once on a long slow climb ... Them all alloy blocks do dissapate heat well ...

Post by **Dozoor** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 6:44 pm

mmmmmmm zooookkkssss ,

Post by **Kev80** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:30 pm

dumbdunce wrote:hell yeah. mud is shite, even if you don't bust something immediately it only takes a tiny bit to get past a seal somewhere and there's expensive fixings to do. its crap.
rocks, dirt, sand, deep water crossings, snow, grass, all good, but mud blows goats.

Mud driving can be fun & rarely results in problems.

Can't say the same about rock crawling. :finger:

You can get immediate problems like dints, scratches, roll overs, shreaded tyres, broken axles, cv's, drive shafts. ect.

Both aspects of 4wheelin have the negitive points......each to there own.

Post by **Beastmavster** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:59 am

bogged wrote:
Dozoor wrote: hehe had to waite till 10pm so there was no traffic and drove it from menia to gosford with no fan , and it didn't overheat once , Zoooooksss

Phuckin hell!!! thats a journey and a half with no fan!

I had somethign similar when a brand new water pump I'd just installed pulled apart at the shaft... bits of coke can as a wedge hammered it all back together to at least spin the water pump, removed fan to reduce load on the trail repair.

The fan coming off had dented radiator fins but no holes...(luckily). With the rad choked with mud... I drove about an hour home no issues in convoy.

At least it was a free warranty replacement, but that didn't pay for the bent fins..... a small screwdriver was needed for that to be fixed :(

The Vitara rads are pretty awesome too... massive heat dispersion from the alloy rad and the alloy motor - even when it's chokkers with mud the temp guage hardly moves.

I have considered taping part of it up to assist in keeping the temperature up high enough for normal daily driving... even here in QLD the temp sits very low.

Post by **beebee** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 12:58 pm

Kev80 wrote:
dumbdunce wrote:hell yeah. mud is shite, even if you don't bust something immediately it only takes a tiny bit to get past a seal somewhere and there's expensive fixings to do. its crap.
rocks, dirt, sand, deep water crossings, snow, grass, all good, but mud blows goats.

Mud driving can be fun & rarely results in problems.

Can't say the same about rock crawling.

You can get immediate problems like dints, scratches, roll overs, shreaded tyres, broken axles, cv's, drive shafts. ect.

Both aspects of 4wheelin have the negitive points......each to there own.

But at least with rock crawling you can see what is about to happen. If something does happen you can usually only blame yourself - not some fu*kwit who put a shopping trolley in the way.

Besides, rock crawling requires skill :finger:

Post by **ORSM45** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 1:50 pm

love_mud wrote:
bogged wrote:
Dozoor wrote: hehe had to waite till 10pm so there was no traffic and drove it from menia to gosford with no fan , and it didn't overheat once , Zoooooksss

Phuckin hell!!! thats a journey and a half with no fan!

A few weeks back I managed an entire day in 35+ heat after filling the rad with mud at Mt Dissapointment on one of the first tracks of the day .. motor was hot but only "boiled" once on a long slow climb ... Them all alloy blocks do dissapate heat well ...

ah the croc pit. my brothers radiator clogged up in the hole right next to that. how sloppy is that crap, its just like jelly. did you make it through that hole?

Post by **BushBoy** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 5:24 pm

my brother got his magna bogged in the slop beneath the crust at lake eppalock, radiator half full of mud,
got ourselves bogged to the knees too while trying to wash our hands, hehe
bloody two wheel driver

Post by **flat4** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:04 am

Suzuki Viagra wrote:I have considered taping part of it up to assist in keeping the temperature up high enough for normal daily driving... even here in QLD the temp sits very low.

Is your thermostat seized? You shouldn't have this problem if it's all working. Also beware of the non-linear temp guage. Many have the centre half of the swing covering 20 degrees or so. This difference between 80 and 100 is probably from 30% to 70% of the needle range on many machines. If you think it's cold, use a real thermocouple guage to check how hot it really is.

Steve

Post by **Guy** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:31 am

383FJ45 wrote:
love_mud wrote:
bogged wrote:
Dozoor wrote: hehe had to waite till 10pm so there was no traffic and drove it from menia to gosford with no fan , and it didn't overheat once , Zoooooksss

Phuckin hell!!! thats a journey and a half with no fan!

A few weeks back I managed an entire day in 35+ heat after filling the rad with mud at Mt Dissapointment on one of the first tracks of the day .. motor was hot but only "boiled" once on a long slow climb ... Them all alloy blocks do dissapate heat well ...

ah the croc pit. my brothers radiator clogged up in the hole right next to that. how sloppy is that crap, its just like jelly. did you make it through that hole?

I rekon I could have .. but as I was the last vehicle and we had already been at that point in th track for about an hour I decided to get a tug right at the exit after 3 or 4 goes ... (to keep the convoy moving) ..

Went through all the other holes unassisted tho

Post by **chimpboy** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:47 am

Suzuki Viagra wrote:I had somethign similar when a brand new water pump I'd just installed pulled apart at the shaft... bits of coke can as a wedge hammered it all back together to at least spin the water pump, removed fan to reduce load on the trail repair.

I think it was a Sprite can from memory.

Suzuki Viagra wrote:The Vitara rads are pretty awesome too... massive heat dispersion from the alloy rad and the alloy motor - even when it's chokkers with mud the temp guage hardly moves.

I have considered taping part of it up to assist in keeping the temperature up high enough for normal daily driving... even here in QLD the temp sits very low.

As Flat4 says, this shouldn't happen with a properly functioning thermostat, which chokes off coolant flow to get things warmer as required.

I wouldn't trust the gauge on that one though, especially since the sensor could be filthy.

Running cool isn't as bad as running hot, but it's not particularly good.

Jason

Post by **ORSM45** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 2:00 pm

love_mud wrote:
383FJ45 wrote:
love_mud wrote:
bogged wrote:
Dozoor wrote: hehe had to waite till 10pm so there was no traffic and drove it from menia to gosford with no fan , and it didn't overheat once , Zoooooksss

Phuckin hell!!! thats a journey and a half with no fan!

A few weeks back I managed an entire day in 35+ heat after filling the rad with mud at Mt Dissapointment on one of the first tracks of the day .. motor was hot but only "boiled" once on a long slow climb ... Them all alloy blocks do dissapate heat well ...

ah the croc pit. my brothers radiator clogged up in the hole right next to that. how sloppy is that crap, its just like jelly. did you make it through that hole?

I rekon I could have .. but as I was the last vehicle and we had already been at that point in th track for about an hour I decided to get a tug right at the exit after 3 or 4 goes ... (to keep the convoy moving) ..

Went through all the other holes unassisted tho

grouse, yeah ive yet to be stuck anywhere but i havent tryed the croc pit... ...yet.

what sorta tyres you runnin?

Post by **Guy** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:27 pm

The poor lil 1.6 had it work cut out for it pulling 35 inch claws and rather high gearing .. with more power or more gears (able to keep the little motor on th boil and keep rubber spining reasonablely quick) I thnk I would have done it .. but pushing that wall of mud was kinda hard work

I reckon the croc pit would get you due to clearance .. alot of crusiers and patrols on much bigger than 35's have chewed their way through there meaning deep hidden ruts ... But if you want to have a go .. I'll be in it for sure ..

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