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Winch Solenoids - Are these any good

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Winch Solenoids - Are these any good

Post by sootygu »

I know the Titan solenoids get a very good rap but there are now similar solenoids being sold on eBay at a considerable cheaper price. I would imagine they are Chinese made compared to UK.

Has anyone had experience with these and are the specs comparable to the Titan.


http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SOLENOID-WINCH-C ... dZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... :IT&ih=023
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Re: Winch Solenoids - Are these any good

Post by bogged »

seller is on this board
bit of info on them here.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/ft ... 0-asc-.php

keen to find out too, as I'd like a Titan.
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Post by coxy321 »

Have a look at this thread:

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic139468.php

I'm sure tigerz11 might be interested in an OL group buy of these solenoids. Regardless of quality, i'm 99% sure he'll stand by us for warranty etc.

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Post by sootygu »

coxy321 wrote:
I'm sure tigerz11 might be interested in an OL group buy of these solenoids. Regardless of quality, i'm 99% sure he'll stand by us for warranty etc.

Coxy
Good idea about the group buy.

Will conatct him and let you know.
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Post by nzdarin »

Intermitent duty to 400amp? A 4.6hp 12v Warn motor will draw 450 amps at max and a 6hp will draw 480 amps at max. What does a 6hp with 24v draw??????
If these are the same as the one that comes with the Superwinch etc and they definitely look the same, then they have normal solenoids inside. We pulled one apart to see how good they were and while they were good quality, there was no advantage to using a standard solenoid. ie same working design just inside a water proof box.
If the internal design is the same then the advantage is the waterproofing. I killed 2 solenoids and then shifted the solenoids inside out of the weather and haven't killed ANY since then. Take into account that these results are with 7.8hp motors and I use the standard Premier / Come Up solenoid.

Don't get me wrong, I have one of these (Superwinch type) on my other truck with standard motor etc due to being waterproof, just be sure about what you are getting.
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Post by beretta »

Hope you guys don't mind me chipping in, but given that my livelihood (Titan Solenoids) is being mentioned I didn't think you'd mind, I just wanted to let you know that I would be happy to do you a group deal.

I've been a member on here for over four years and have tested and proven my product personally through several years of competition, many of you know me and the product, as for warranty I stand by it and if you have a drama you give me the old unit, I give you a new one, doesn't get much better than that for warranty.

I've sold around 500 of these units over the past few years and have had an approx 1% fail rate, so 5 out of 500 have had an issue, almost all were from the one batch unfortunately, shit happens sometimes, all were replaced without a drama.

You let me know the numbers and I will work the best deal I can for you.

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Post by coxy321 »

What do they usually retail for Paul? (to save me googling it).

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Post by just cruizin' »

Ebay has a 'Buy it now' of $99 including postage so I'd say $99

Add me to the list
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Post by coxy321 »

I think the "proper" titan ones are $200-$300.
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Post by sootygu »

beretta wrote:Hope you guys don't mind me chipping in, but given that my livelihood (Titan Solenoids) is being mentioned I didn't think you'd mind, I just wanted to let you know that I would be happy to do you a group deal.

I've been a member on here for over four years and have tested and proven my product personally through several years of competition, many of you know me and the product, as for warranty I stand by it and if you have a drama you give me the old unit, I give you a new one, doesn't get much better than that for warranty.

I've sold around 500 of these units over the past few years and have had an approx 1% fail rate, so 5 out of 500 have had an issue, almost all were from the one batch unfortunately, shit happens sometimes, all were replaced without a drama.

You let me know the numbers and I will work the best deal I can for you.

Cheers, Paul

I have heard nothing but praise about your solenoids but nothing about the above mentioned, other than the post by nzdarin.

If the price difference wasn’t excessive I would certainly (and others) buy the proven Titan.

Can you pm me what kind of numbers you need and pricing for a group buy.

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Post by beretta »

PM sent.

They are normally $225, depending which shop or who you buy them through.
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Post by bogged »

just cruizin' wrote:Ebay has a 'Buy it now' of $99 including postage so I'd say $99

Add me to the list
I'd be happy to pay bit more for something proved than not. winch ya dont want failing at wrong time....

pm me too paul with a price
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Post by coxy321 »

.......but you're going to have a special OL members offer of just $89.95, plus a bonus steak-knife set if you purchase with credit card in the next 5 min.........???
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Post by def90 »

pending price i'd be keen for 1 solenoid too.
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Post by Coighty »

Hey guys just remember you get what you pay for. I"ve been running TITAN for a couple of years now,( the 1st one Berret's bought in ) doing winch challenges an OBC's and many other comps without a problem, just be carefull what you buy, cheap usually means it's poor quality some where.
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Post by coxy321 »

I've PM'd tigerz11 to see if he can supply a photo of the insides of his eBay sold solenoids. Wait and see i spose.

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Post by tigerz11 »

hello all ,,,i have opened one of the solenoids but as i have said before ,i am retardick,,,i dont even know how to get this out so these are the pics of it ,,,these solenoids i dont know if they are any good ,,i only get told by the winch people i deal with ,,these solenoids are in all the winches i sell,,i wouldnt think they would be crap but i am not an expert,,,i only have 5 left now ,its amazing how they have sold ,,,by they its isnt really the place to say but as of today the 12000lb winch was given the 3 year warranty by the manufacturer.
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Post by coxy321 »

So how does that stack up to the expensive ones guys??

Coxy

PS. Thanks tigerz11, you've done well!
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Post by bogged »

tigerz11 wrote:i am retardick,,,
i dont even know how to get this out so these are the pics of it ,,,
these solenoids i dont know if they are any good
i only get told by the winch people i deal with
i wouldnt think they would be crap but i am not an expert.
dont take this the wrong way, but its sad when someone doesnt even know what they are selling. Not very confidence inspiring.
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Post by coxy321 »

True, but if its the right product at the right price.....

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Post by tigerz11 »

one thing i wont do is

PISS DOWN YOUR BACK AND THEN TELL YOU ITS RAINING

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Post by MightyMouse »

Where did the pics go ?
( usual disclaimers )

It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
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Post by coxy321 »

Still working for me.
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Post by uzdnabuzd »

so after everyones comments on the quality of these soleniods, tigerz has opened one up for everyone to see and comment and..............nothing.

Are they up to scratch or what?
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Post by coxy321 »

uzdnabuzd wrote:so after everyones comments on the quality of these soleniods, tigerz has opened one up for everyone to see and comment and..............nothing.

Are they up to scratch or what?
x2 champ!!

I would like opinions, cause i've got no bl00dy idea what to look for with these setups.

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Post by sootygu »

coxy321 wrote:
uzdnabuzd wrote:so after everyones comments on the quality of these soleniods, tigerz has opened one up for everyone to see and comment and..............nothing.

Are they up to scratch or what?
x2 champ!!

I would like opinions, cause i've got no bl00dy idea what to look for with these setups.

Coxy
X3

no idea when it comes to this type of stuff.

nzdarin seem to know a bit about them, hopefuly he popes his head in and lets us know his thoughts.
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Post by sierrajim »

What's inside a Titan??
[quote="Harb"]Well I'm guessing that they didn't think everyone would carry on like a big bunch of sooky girls over it like they have........[/quote]
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Post by BASSYK »

sierrajim wrote:What's inside a Titan??
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im running titans and would like to see if there is any difference in them
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Post by uzdnabuzd »

I am going to go out on a lim and say that we will never find out because they are probably the same.
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