sj50 coily conv.

[tuff_89zook]

Has anyone ever tried to put sj80 coils onto a sj50
dunno if it will work but just wanna get some feedback

[alien]

its probably cheaper just to buy a coily =)

[Gwagensteve]

Coil sierras have approximately the worst coil suspension design of anything ever. It's full of design compromises - it's junk. Weak, lacks travel, the brackets are weak, bushings bind.... and it has no more travel than a leaf car and it's much harder to get more travel out of them.

A leaf sierra can be made to ride as well as a coil car for a fraction of the hassle.

If you REALLY want a sierra with coils under it, either get overkill to coil convert it for you or buy a coil sierra and put up with it.

Steve.

[tuff_89zook]

thanks for that guys
so what u think would be better convert to coils n 1 link or put some lifted springs, spoa, scissor shackles, rancho rs9000

[Gwagensteve]

Why do you want to set up a sierra like that?

I sense you are a newbie. I see searching and doing LOTS of reading in your future.


Steve.

PS, In relation to 1 links - I think they're viable on the front but not on the rear due to antisquat problems. you'd be better reading up on 1 links on Pirate4X4.com - there's lots tech about them on there as more people have tried them.

[ofr57]

1 links
http://www.bluetorchfab.com/store/ makes some nice coil kits

[tuff_89zook]

im looking at makng it into a rockcrawler like they do with samuria over in the states that why i though coils and 1,2 or maybe even 3 link would be good but ultimatly i want it to be a comp truck
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[Gwagensteve]

Don't believe that everything in the US is better. You need to get out with guys in you area that run suzukis and drive the tracks that are available to you.

A spoa sierra with drop shackles and (most) ranchos is going to drive like a bucket of poo. It'll look great posing on a ramp though, so if that's what you want to do (posing) go for it.
On rocks, it's going to be loose and floppy and won't take power to bump you up climbs. You'd be better with something lower and with more controlled suspension. Most people who have built a car the way you are describing would not build another car that high again.

Like I said, hook up with local suzuki drivers, don't take your lead from the States. (although many of their cars are now well built and very stable)

Have a read of this too - it's a start on spring function and shock absober choice. It's only my opinion though.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... 97#1147697



Steve.

[tuff_89zook]

thanks for that steve

just wondering what u reckon would be the best setup for rockcrawling n comps etc

[Gwagensteve]

Rockcrawling is different everywhere - clearance, wheelbase width etc all depend on where you're doing it. Very very few people will now use scissor shackles though.

There was a recent thread on SPOA and it's been covered a lot. It is very expensive to get it right.

As for comps - what you can do will all depend on the rules of that comp.

If your car is pretty stock now, run a 2" BL, a rear locker and some transfer gears, put some 31's on it - you'll get most places simply and cheaply.

I've said it lots before. beyond that point it's all diminishing returns. A cool custom car isn't a cool custom car if it's sitting in the shed being built (or rebuilt) forever.

Steve.

[tuff_89zook]

well i already have 2"BL, 2" shackles n 31's
ive been looking at lock-right lockers n mini spols
n also stage 4 rockcrawler gears
what u think would be the best options for me

[Spike_Sierra]

well i already have 2"BL, 2" shackles n 31's
ive been looking at lock-right lockers n mini spols
n also stage 4 rockcrawler gears
what u think would be the best options for me

6.5 gears and lockrite locker from www.lowrangeoffroad. easily get both for under 900 bucks.

[NIK]

There is a line in between fun/function and $$$/work if you stay on one side you only spend a little and have a ball in a functional 4wd but once you cross that line you spend lots of $$ and time and dont nessaserily have that amount more fun.
Check out what your local guys are running and maybe check out some of the rigs that run in the types of comps your interested in.
You,ll definatly need gears and lockers.
Nik

[tuff_89zook]

thanks for everyones input and i hope more people help me out
not many people in our area mod zooks being a coutry area everyones more into hilux's etc
but like ive been told before a sierra can go as far as a hilux and with a locker even further

[dank]

um you're in newcastle? there are a truckload of modded zooks in that area that are members on this forum. try posting in the trips and tracks forum to hook up with them for a drive. learn off the guys who have done it before that way you won't make the same mistakes.

good luck have fun and yes stay on the side of lightly modded. its VERY easy to turn a 2k stock sierra into a 10k modded sierra that is constantly living in the shed possibly never to see the light of day again...Its how i'm feeling at the moment! just wheel the hell out of it mate. get a rear lockrite and gears and have a ball. I did that before I decided that 34s and a more powerful engine were on the cards after I blew my old one. been sitting in the garage for at least 5 months out of the last 12 its getting there tho!

[tuff_89zook]

oh ok thanks for the tip ill post there asap
hop ur zook is going again soon

[Turbo Tonka]

im no expert mate and i also hate to spend money and have little patience to be in the shed working on them all day but my advise would be to keep it simple,keep it cheap.you learn a hole lot more from it and hey,its all ment to be about enjoying the weekend out wheeling with mates and if you can do that on a budget its great.Basically id leave your car how it stands for now but with a locker and some sort of gearing then get out there and learn a bit about the car,you and the limits..On many of occasions also,my different trucks have driven and sometimes out driven other more modded cars with custom bits everywhere or super soft flexy setups etc, matt

[alien]

heres how i did my zuk:

Bought it in 2001, with bald tyres, so fitted 215/75 HT's... was doing a TOn of sand at the time and they worked well... however i found i enjoyed doing big jumps at 90km/hr too, so the next thing i "upgraded" was my springs n shocks (cos i trashed the old ones) - i put in 2" lovells and cofap shocks... that lasted about 2 years, in the meantime a 1.6l vit engine went in cos i blew the 1.3 up in the dunes, then i wasnt happy with the zuk carby always crapping out on me so i put a weber on (awesome)... then i got to thinking... so i planned for and consulted an engineer about doing SPOA on hilux front leaves - 3 years later its done (1.5 of those it just sat in the driveway gathering dust!)... but its all engineered and legal now - HOWEVER i do have the dreaded spring wrap and will be spending yet more cash on a traction bar.

If you want my opinion - wheel it stock (as you appear to have done), then based on what you plan on driving, make your mods to suit... and DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME! (ie: consult an engineer).

I got quite bored of sand and found i enjoyed more crawling activities, so thats what mines built for now =)

[lay80n]

thanks for everyones input and i hope more people help me out
not many people in our area mod zooks being a coutry area everyones more into hilux's etc
but like ive been told before a sierra can go as far as a hilux and with a locker even further

Plenty of us in Newcastle, dont worry.

Layto....