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'87 Toyota Surf vs '96 Holden Frontera Sport

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chimpboy wrote:If you have open diffs and mediocre tyres, they are all you need to address with the frontera to get it much more capable, imho. Leave the other goodies till later.

Honestly, you'd be insane to go for that surf.
Why, it's a pretty clean looking unit?

Will the fronty have better rear articulation, I doubt it, will the fronty necessarily have better IFS articulation, I don't know.

The Surf has one major advantage, it's mid wheel base Vs the Frontys short wheel base, plenty more room inside.

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Comparing something that is mint to something that is 370,000km old is a key indicator. Thats a lot of distance on the running gear, the body fatigue and the condition of every other part in it.
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Post by DEK44 »

yeah cheers guys. thanks for the comments. i have decided to keep the frontera. 370,000km's is a hell of a lot and 80,000 is fuck all..i'll keep the 80. cheers
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Post by Struth »

Fair enough, my bent is towards difficult tracks so that's why my vote lay with the Surf.

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Post by chikoroll_ »

Struth wrote:
chimpboy wrote:If you have open diffs and mediocre tyres, they are all you need to address with the frontera to get it much more capable, imho. Leave the other goodies till later.

Honestly, you'd be insane to go for that surf.
Why, it's a pretty clean looking unit?

Will the fronty have better rear articulation, I doubt it, will the fronty necessarily have better IFS articulation, I don't know.

The Surf has one major advantage, it's mid wheel base Vs the Frontys short wheel base, plenty more room inside.

Cheers
put some jackaroo coils & shocks in the rear (free mod) and it will gain 5" of flex
the IFS is bloody good, and once again, replace the upper control arms with jackaroo's and you get a 6" lift for a very cheap price (flex increased by 2") flip the balljoints to get another 2" downtravel
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Post by -Scott- »

chikoroll_ wrote:[the IFS is bloody good, and once again, replace the upper control arms with jackaroo's and you get a 6" lift
A 6" lifted Frontie? Got pics?
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Post by j-top paj »

chikoroll_ wrote:
j-top paj wrote:
chikoroll_ wrote: we can fit the vehicle in the ruts on our 29" or 32" tyrese while the TROLS/CRUISERS driver over the top of us because all we are good for is filling holes

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


:finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:
lol :lol:

so what happened to the J-Top?
its waiting to be SASd :twisted:
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Post by j-top paj »

chimpboy wrote:
Honestly, you'd be insane to go for that surf.
id have to agree,
age and Ks make it not worth it.
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Post by chikoroll_ »

-Scott- wrote:
chikoroll_ wrote:[the IFS is bloody good, and once again, replace the upper control arms with jackaroo's and you get a 6" lift
A 6" lifted Frontie? Got pics?
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_im ... 1_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_im ... 2_full.jpg

similar to how the troopers/roo's are lifted
http://forum.planetisuzoo.com/viewtopic ... rodeo+lift
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Post by Slunnie »

Nice. Still flex's like an IFS but I like it.

Doing that to the V6 Frontera will be a little hard as it'll also need the fuel tank modified or moved as on of the lower links will make contact.
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Post by DEK44 »

not to mention mines a 4cyl fronty..

but that trooper looks sick aye. what an awesome job. whats IFS?
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Post by Slunnie »

IFS just means independant front suspension.

I'm starting to wish I had my ol' Frontera again. :lol:
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Post by DEK44 »

haha yeah! i reckon u should!
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Post by Yom »

How about you stop parking down the end of my sister's street you looney?

Oh, BTW, leave her the fuck alone. Move on. Next time I rock up and see your car in the driveway I will drag it off the property.

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Post by chimpboy »

Yom wrote:How about you stop parking down the end of my sister's street you looney?

Oh, BTW, leave her the . alone. Move on. Next time I rock up and see your car in the driveway I will drag it off the property.

Savvy?
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Post by thehanko »

:shock: :shock:
*there's a rock, drive over it :) there's a bigger rock, drive over it :twisted: there's an even bigger rock, oops broke it :oops: Upgrade broken bit :bad-words:
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:shock: :shock: :shock:


Jackass! :lol:
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Post by -Scott- »

Yom wrote:How about you stop parking down the end of my sister's street you looney?

Oh, BTW, leave her the . alone. Move on. Next time I rock up and see your car in the driveway I will drag it off the property.

Savvy?
OK, this seems random. Did somebody hit "Post Reply" instead of "PM"? :lol:
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Post by Yom »

Oh well its too late now.

Regardless, FFS, wants a different car because it looks more masculine. DING DING DING.

Absolute looney and I now you all know. ;)
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Yom wrote: Absolute looney and I now you all know. ;)
umm, no, we don't. Please go on. :popcorn:
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Post by DEK44 »

ahh...wtf. How about you mind your own business.
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Post by Rory »

maybe the surf being more massculin n manely n bufflike will make it harder to be dragged off said property..or ppl will fear the obviously huge driver....
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Post by -Scott- »

DEK44 wrote:ahh...wtf. How about you mind your own business.
I suggest you both take it to PM - or drop it entirely.
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agree'd. I'd rather not be the "bigger man" behind a keyboard.
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-Scott- wrote:
DEK44 wrote:ahh...wtf. How about you mind your own business.
I suggest you both take it to PM - or drop it entirely.
boooo. No fun. What am I supposed to do with all this popcorn? :bad-words:
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Post by j-top paj »

RAY185 wrote:
-Scott- wrote:
DEK44 wrote:ahh...wtf. How about you mind your own business.
I suggest you both take it to PM - or drop it entirely.
boooo. No fun. What am I supposed to do with all this popcorn? :bad-words:


:cry: :cry: :cry:
i just got some ready
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Post by DEK44 »

haha sorry guys. No go this time. Pretty sure this thread can be 'Closed' now.
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Post by chikoroll_ »

lol closing threads is no fun :P
round 2
DING DING DING


on the topic of IFS vs Solid

which do you consider better-

A) a wheel flying high, with a locker

or

B) a wheel in a hole 500mm's deep, bending the axle as it tries to pull itself out


i'd go the IFS anyday, gets better clearance in stock form (Diff sits higher because of the CV angle)
i'm always dragging my rear pumpkin, never touching the front one
-rear is the ISUZU equivalent size of a Dana 44 if that means anything to you
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Post by Slunnie »

Ithought the rear of my Frontera was a Dana 44. So whats that??? About the same as a Hilux?
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Post by HG »

I don't know of anyone converting there Patrol or Landcruiser (yes 100 &200 series) to IFS but I know of a few SAS'd 4 by's getting around
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Post by j-top paj »

HG wrote:I don't know of anyone converting there Patrol or Landcruiser (yes 100 &200 series) to IFS but I know of a few SAS'd 4 by's getting around
give it a few years, IFS is the new hardcore mod to do :lol:
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