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Post by thehanko »

KiwiBacon wrote:
-Scott- wrote: 40 minute cycle time?
Smells like BS to me too.
In 40 minutes the heat from your combustion has cooled completel and there's nothing left to drive the expansion and push the piston down.
But dont forget mate there is no heat... ;)

Perhaps hyundai are claiming 100% burn of fuel, rather than 100% energy conversion. just a thought
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Post by ISUZUROVER »

KiwiBacon wrote:
I heard they have an engine that uses no fuel at all, it's powered by bulls**t. :armsup:
But surely BS contains methane??? maybe some H2S as well??? - there we go, instead of "HHO" - maybe HHS can be the new green fuel!!!. Easy to generate from decomposing BS!!! And combustion creates H20 and SOx. Tim Flannery said recently we need to put sulphur in the atmosphere to stop global warming!!! Here is the perfect solution - now where's my Nobel Prize???


Btw - I googled, for this hyundai diesel, and this was all I got: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/stor ... 60,00.html

By no means 100% efficient...
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Post by -Scott- »

ISUZUROVER wrote:Btw - I googled, for this hyundai diesel, and this was all I got: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/stor ... 60,00.html

By no means 100% efficient...
But they have done an amazing job to squeeze those 9.9 foot pistons in there. :P
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Post by Shadow »

-Scott- wrote:
ISUZUROVER wrote:Btw - I googled, for this hyundai diesel, and this was all I got: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/stor ... 60,00.html

By no means 100% efficient...
But they have done an amazing job to squeeze those 9.9 foot pistons in there. :P
theyre in another dimension, duhhh...
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simple grade 11 14th dimensional physics explains it all... if you took any notice during high school you will understand how the pistons fit!
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Post by -Scott- »

macca81 wrote:simple grade 11 14th dimensional physics explains it all... if you took any notice during high school you will understand how the pistons fit!
So, what are you saying? They're held in place by string?
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i thought that petrol engines where 15-205 effiecent at best and diesel engines about 48% effiecent at best... not to many production cars getting this either....

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-Scott- wrote:
macca81 wrote:simple grade 11 14th dimensional physics explains it all... if you took any notice during high school you will understand how the pistons fit!
So, what are you saying? They're held in place by string?
no no no... Quarks
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Post by -Scott- »

macca81 wrote:
-Scott- wrote:
macca81 wrote:simple grade 11 14th dimensional physics explains it all... if you took any notice during high school you will understand how the pistons fit!
So, what are you saying? They're held in place by string?
no no no... Quarks
Aren't they those little spotted things on Rottnest Island? :?
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-Scott- wrote:
macca81 wrote:
-Scott- wrote:
macca81 wrote:simple grade 11 14th dimensional physics explains it all... if you took any notice during high school you will understand how the pistons fit!
So, what are you saying? They're held in place by string?
no no no... Quarks
Aren't they those little spotted things on Rottnest Island? :?
yeah thats the ones. lift the bonnet of the hyundai and you will see about 30 of the little critters in there holding it all together
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Post by -Scott- »

macca81 wrote:
-Scott- wrote:
macca81 wrote:
-Scott- wrote:
macca81 wrote:simple grade 11 14th dimensional physics explains it all... if you took any notice during high school you will understand how the pistons fit!
So, what are you saying? They're held in place by string?
no no no... Quarks
Aren't they those little spotted things on Rottnest Island? :?
yeah thats the ones. lift the bonnet of the hyundai and you will see about 30 of the little critters in there holding it all together
Of course - it's because they're 79% hydrogen - that's why the Hyundai is so efficient! :armsup:
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-Scott- wrote:
macca81 wrote:
-Scott- wrote:
macca81 wrote:
-Scott- wrote: So, what are you saying? They're held in place by string?
no no no... Quarks
Aren't they those little spotted things on Rottnest Island? :?
yeah thats the ones. lift the bonnet of the hyundai and you will see about 30 of the little critters in there holding it all together
Of course - it's because they're 79% hydrogen - that's why the Hyundai is so efficient! :armsup:
finally you understand...
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Post by KiwiBacon »

uninformed wrote:diesel engines about 48% effiecent at best... not to many production cars getting this either....

cheers, Serg
What do you think the majority of europeans drive? Oh wait, diesel cars.
Aussie, like the US will be one of the last to get them. At least here in Kiwiland the manufacturers have stepped up with a decent array of diesel models.

My diesel work car does better than 15km/l in mixed running, haven't done enough open road work to get an idea of that. But I expect 17-18km/l.
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Post by ISUZUROVER »

KiwiBacon wrote:
uninformed wrote:diesel engines about 48% effiecent at best... not to many production cars getting this either....

cheers, Serg
What do you think the majority of europeans drive? Oh wait, diesel cars.
Aussie, like the US will be one of the last to get them. At least here in Kiwiland the manufacturers have stepped up with a decent array of diesel models.

My diesel work car does better than 15km/l in mixed running, haven't done enough open road work to get an idea of that. But I expect 17-18km/l.
Actually in the last few years we have gotten quite a few diesels:

VW - polo/golf/passat
Holden Astra!!!
The little Hyundai above
Most french cars (but they have always been sold here).
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ISUZUROVER wrote:
KiwiBacon wrote:
uninformed wrote:diesel engines about 48% effiecent at best... not to many production cars getting this either....

cheers, Serg
What do you think the majority of europeans drive? Oh wait, diesel cars.
Aussie, like the US will be one of the last to get them. At least here in Kiwiland the manufacturers have stepped up with a decent array of diesel models.

My diesel work car does better than 15km/l in mixed running, haven't done enough open road work to get an idea of that. But I expect 17-18km/l.
Actually in the last few years we have gotten quite a few diesels:

VW - polo/golf/passat
VOXAL Astra!!!
The little Hyundai above
Most french cars (but they have always been sold here).
Citroen
mer cedes
ssangyong(realy a merc but...)
Peugeot
etc etc
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Post by uninformed »

KiwiBacon wrote:
uninformed wrote:diesel engines about 48% effiecent at best... not to many production cars getting this either....

cheers, Serg
What do you think the majority of europeans drive? Oh wait, diesel cars.
Aussie, like the US will be one of the last to get them. At least here in Kiwiland the manufacturers have stepped up with a decent array of diesel models.

My diesel work car does better than 15km/l in mixed running, haven't done enough open road work to get an idea of that. But I expect 17-18km/l.
you missed my point.

i wasnt saying cars dont get diesel's (i dont live under a rock)
i was refering to the efficency of the engine

at best a diesel can be about 48% efficent, only the massive stationary and shipping engines achive this, most of these are 2 stroke turbo and supercharged, with alot of other goodies.... my point was about the whole efficency statements....

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