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Post by **glen1n** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:23 pm

Now, i need to know for sure or not whether my fourby is classified as a bundera? Some people say that bundy's are only mid wheel bases with coil suspension, and mine is a SWB with leaf spings. Can someone help me classify my car? Here are some piccys to help you out

Cheers
Glen

Post by **glen1n** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:25 pm

BTW thanks to Heathx4 for taking the pics

Post by **Gonzo** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:30 pm

what does it say on the complience plate?

Post by **N*A*M** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:40 pm

i agree, bundies are coil sprung

you have #j70

Post by **MY45** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:58 pm

N*A*M wrote:i agree, bundies are coil sprung

you have #j70

Its an FJ70 coz its a petrol

Post by **+dj_hansen+** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 1:42 pm

Oh all the bunderras i have seen, it has a little plastic decal thingy saying "Bunderra" on the pillar between the door and the rear window, cant see in any of those photos.

Unless of course, the person before u did a coil conversion on the leaf MWB for you

Post by **droopypete** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 1:42 pm

NAM is corect, all bundera's are coil sprung, as you have a 2 peice front gaurd, leaf springs and look to be stuck in a hole no Bundera would be stuck in

you have a heavy duty 70 series land cruiser.
Peter.

Post by **droopypete** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 1:47 pm

MY45 wrote:
N*A*M wrote:i agree, bundies are coil sprung

you have #j70

Its an FJ70 coz its a petrol

MY45, how did you work that out? it could be 4 or 5 diferant engines, did go by it not having a diesel badge on the grill or did you see some thing else on the pic's, or did you enlarge the pic and read the engine# from the rego sticker :lol:

.
Peter.

Post by **droopypete** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 1:48 pm

+dj_hansen+ wrote:Oh all the bunderras i have seen, it has a little plastic decal thingy saying "Bunderra" on the pillar between the door and the rear window, cant see in any of those photos.

Unless of course, the person before u did a coil conversion on the leaf MWB for you

Mine hasn't.
Peter.

Post by **spazbot** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 1:49 pm

droopypete wrote:
MY45 wrote:
N*A*M wrote:i agree, bundies are coil sprung

you have #j70

Its an FJ70 coz its a petrol

MY45, how did you work that out? it could be 4 or 5 diferant engines, did go by it not having a diesel badge on the grill or did you see some thing else on the pic's, or did you enlarge the pic and read the engine# from the rego sticker .
Peter.

my45 has been wheeling with him , so he has prolly heard the pissy little petrol engine in it

Post by **droopypete** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 1:57 pm

spazbot wrote:
droopypete wrote:
MY45 wrote:
N*A*M wrote:i agree, bundies are coil sprung

you have #j70

Its an FJ70 coz its a petrol

MY45, how did you work that out? it could be 4 or 5 diferant engines, did go by it not having a diesel badge on the grill or did you see some thing else on the pic's, or did you enlarge the pic and read the engine# from the rego sticker .
Peter.

my45 has been wheeling with him , so he has prolly heard the pissy little petrol engine in it

Thats cheating :lol:

I thought he had a crystal ball or somthing.
Peter.

Post by **+dj_hansen+** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 2:03 pm

Someone must have badged you in the fad of 1998/2000 kool stealing car badges phase...

Post by **droopypete** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 2:10 pm

+dj_hansen+ wrote:Someone must have badged you in the fad of 1998/2000 kool stealing car badges phase...

I am not certain of this but I think only the hard tops had this badge :?:

I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.
Peter.

Post by **MY45** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 2:20 pm

spazbot wrote:
droopypete wrote:
MY45 wrote:
N*A*M wrote:i agree, bundies are coil sprung

you have #j70

Its an FJ70 coz its a petrol

MY45, how did you work that out? it could be 4 or 5 diferant engines, did go by it not having a diesel badge on the grill or did you see some thing else on the pic's, or did you enlarge the pic and read the engine# from the rego sticker .
Peter.

my45 has been wheeling with him , so he has prolly heard the pissy little petrol engine in it

Post by **glen1n** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 4:13 pm

MY45 wrote:
spazbot wrote:
droopypete wrote:
MY45 wrote:
N*A*M wrote:i agree, bundies are coil sprung

you have #j70

Its an FJ70 coz its a petrol

MY45, how did you work that out? it could be 4 or 5 diferant engines, did go by it not having a diesel badge on the grill or did you see some thing else on the pic's, or did you enlarge the pic and read the engine# from the rego sticker .
Peter.

my45 has been wheeling with him , so he has prolly heard the pissy little petrol engine in it

Cheers for backing me up my45, maybe one day spazbot will come out with us and we will see how his lockers face up against my heavy right foot (Trust me, it is just as effective :armsup:

)

Post by **ORSM45** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 4:20 pm

3Fs arent that little.

Post by **glen1n** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 4:22 pm

383FJ45 wrote:3Fs arent that little.

THATS RIGHT!!!

Post by **ORSM45** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 4:45 pm

not big enough for me tho :twisted:

Post by **dow50r** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 6:07 pm

Go the heavy duty Landcruiser shorty fj70. One piece rear windows, no rear seats, cruiser running gear, leaf springs, 3f or 3b 5 speed only.
Had a bj70 some time ago.
Andrew

Post by **glen1n** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 8:44 pm

dow50r wrote:Go the heavy duty Landcruiser shorty fj70. One piece rear windows, no rear seats, cruiser running gear, leaf springs, 3f or 3b 5 speed only.
Had a bj70 some time ago.
Andrew

Amen to that brother

Post by **spazbot** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 12:29 am

stick a 1hz in there

Post by **Shadow** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 9:44 am

1hz's arent the cheapest motors to find unfortunately.

while were at it

stick a 1hz-t in it

Post by **dow50r** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 10:45 am

Where a 1hz will fit....so will a 1hdft multivalve

Post by **dumbdunce** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 11:32 am

Shadow wrote:1hz's arent the cheapest motors to find unfortunately.

they're not that expensive. can be had second hand for under $4k, they're around $7k brand new but that does not include all the peripherals and brackets so the conversion gets expensive to do if you but a new motor. BUT you also need the 1HZ to H55F bellhousing and a different transmission input shaft, which will stack up the $$.

while were at it

stick a 1hz-t in it

no such thing, but a 1HD-T or 1HD-FT would be a nice swap! (better to get a whole wrecked 80 series to get the motor, gearbox and transfer from, expect to pay at least 10k)

Post by **roscoFJ73** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 7:21 am

So Glen1n, what exactly have you got .If I got it right you have a 3F swb with coil springs.If so you have a rare coil sprung landcruiser that normally dont come to Australia.I think they usually go to S/America or for internal use in Japan.

Post by **dumbdunce** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 9:03 am

rosco did you even read the first post?

from the factroy there is NO coil sprung heavy duty *J7x's

Post by **MUSS** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:38 am

keep it simple and get a 13bt donk can get em for cheap $$$$$ and they go like the clappers.... you wood be flying in a bundy
:armsup:

Post by **dumbdunce** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:53 am

a 13B-T is not a simple or cheap swap in a bundy. you have to transplant the gearbox and transfer, driveshafts, radiator, custom shroud, front springs, and 13B-T's aren't that cheap, at least as much as a 1HZ last time I tried to find one.

they will bolt into a BJ70 but to put one in a FJ70 you need to change at least the bellhousing and transmission input shaft, which requires almost complete disassembly of the transfer and gearbox, and the shaft itself is quite expensive from toyota, over $300. might also need to change the front engine mounts.

they are a great motor though, near bulletproof and buckets of torque, a lot better with a bigger aftermarket turbo and intercooling.

Post by **MY45** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:05 pm

JAKE wrote:keep it simple and get a 13bt donk can get em for cheap $$$$$ and they go like the clappers.... you wood be flying in a bundy

Its not a bundy as it has leaf suspension its just an FJ70..............

Post by **glen1n** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:55 pm

roscoFJ73 wrote:So Glen1n, what exactly have you got .If I got it right you have a 3F swb with coil springs.If so you have a rare coil sprung landcruiser that normally dont come to Australia.I think they usually go to S/America or for internal use in Japan.

Sorry to dissapoint, :cry:

but it has leaf springs as my45 pointed out.

Thanks for everyones help

BTW is it safe to spring over the SWB or is there to much risk of rolling it off road with the higher centre of gravity?

Cheers Glen

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