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Post by hottiemonster »

NEWS UPDATE!!!!!

Booked my car in with Cheezy this morning for 3" lift suspension
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Post by Area54 »

Hooray! Cheezy is a top bloke, will do a top job on your rig. We're all happy, tyres are next then, hey?

Here are some other people that are happy...
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Post by hottiemonster »

yeah i was at his factory last night for a piss up. moose, mkpatrol guy where some of the names there.

tyres will be comming soon after, i just havent made up my mind of which yet.

2 things, run 1 set for road and offroad, or have 2 sets, 1 for offroad, and one for road.
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Post by spazbot »

2 sets, currents for onraod and nice chunky meats for offroad
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Post by A1 »

bogged wrote:
A1MAV wrote:Tyre size:37" 12.5
Engineer certified (yes/no):not yet ......but will be with stock treadlys


If you run 37s all the time why bother with engineers for the rest? Just interested to see thats all...



Bogged I Dont run my 37"s all the time if i have enough moolah come engineerin time i will get a set of 315 16"s eq -35" so that it should be all legal hopefully :!:



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Post by Singo17 »

hottiemonster wrote:yeah i was at his factory last night for a piss up. moose, mkpatrol guy where some of the names there.

tyres will be comming soon after, i just havent made up my mind of which yet.

2 things, run 1 set for road and offroad, or have 2 sets, 1 for offroad, and one for road.


You already have a set you are going to buy another set so get the new set run both. 34 simexs sound the shyt or if you are keen some of those Claws cheezy has in the shop cheap for a 35' but a radial.

People here wont admit it (maybe) but they run big Allterrains or normal Muddys because they just cant stand to see there beast on 31's so maybe you could scounge up some 285/75's later on to avoid the look.
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Post by hottiemonster »

i was thinking of maybe getting the 35" radial claws now, that cheezy said they would fit.

i got around 2 weeks to decide on a tyre.
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Post by bogged »

hottiemonster wrote:i was thinking of maybe getting the 35" radial claws now.


If your talking new, Price them, that will change your mind.
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Post by MKPatrolGuy »

bogged wrote:
hottiemonster wrote:i was thinking of maybe getting the 35" radial claws now.


If your talking new, Price them, that will change your mind.


35" Radial claws retail for $325 each.
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Post by robbie »

hottiemonster wrote:i was thinking of maybe getting the 35" radial claws now, that cheezy said they would fit.

i got around 2 weeks to decide on a tyre.


:rofl: what about the JT2's? or the JTs that were on here for sale? or the 33" MTRs? what about daniels swampers? :roll:

2 weeks? jesus christ, you will probably have thought about every tyre made then!
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probably
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Post by bogged »

MKPatrolGuy wrote: 35" Radial claws retail for $325 each.


Interesting, nowhere near the bias ply price are they...
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bogged wrote:
MKPatrolGuy wrote: 35" Radial claws retail for $325 each.


Interesting, nowhere near the bias ply price are they...


About $100 odd dollars cheaper
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Post by bogged »

MKPatrolGuy wrote:About $100 odd dollars cheaper


thats what I was thinkin of...
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Post by hottiemonster »

cheezy reckons bias ply arent worth the money.

and he said get a set of JT2 or extereme trekkers for the same price of a bias claw or most likely cheaper.
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Post by bogged »

hottiemonster wrote:cheezy reckons bias ply arent worth the money.

and he said get a set of JT2 or extereme trekkers for the same price of a bias claw or most likely cheaper.



Both are for different terrain, Claws work better on rocks and hard shit, JT and extremes are better for Victoria, where rocks are fictional characters.
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Post by hottiemonster »

bogged wrote:
hottiemonster wrote:cheezy reckons bias ply arent worth the money.

and he said get a set of JT2 or extereme trekkers for the same price of a bias claw or most likely cheaper.



Both are for different terrain, Claws work better on rocks and hard shit, JT and extremes are better for Victoria, where rocks are fictional characters.


what about for the terrian around walhalla and licola, casue i travel there mostly.
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Post by grimbo »

well being that they are also in Victoria.......

No matter what tyre you buy (and for god's sake buy something soon) it won't work on all surfaces and conditions. You get a good mud tyre liike a bogger and its crap on road. You get a All terrian which is great on road but crap in mud. it is about compromise. A Mud terrain tyre is probably the best compromise between on and off road performance. A MTR, or a Claw, or BFg will all the do the job.
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Post by bogged »

Grimbo has hit it on the head, there is NO perfect tire for everything. Its all a compramise.

For the $$, if BFG MTR and claw were all the same $ you would go claw, MTR BFG..

But since it isnt in your case, go with what you can afford, the tires will out do your driving skills for a while anyway...


grimbo wrote:well being that they are also in Victoria.......

No matter what tyre you buy (and for god's sake buy something soon) it won't work on all surfaces and conditions. You get a good mud tyre liike a bogger and its crap on road. You get a All terrian which is great on road but crap in mud. it is about compromise. A Mud terrain tyre is probably the best compromise between on and off road performance. A MTR, or a Claw, or BFg will all the do the job.
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Post by Singo17 »

grimbo wrote:well being that they are also in Victoria.......

No matter what tyre you buy (and for god's sake buy something soon) it won't work on all surfaces and conditions. You get a good mud tyre liike a bogger and its crap on road. You get a All terrian which is great on road but crap in mud. it is about compromise. A Mud terrain tyre is probably the best compromise between on and off road performance. A MTR, or a Claw, or BFg will all the do the job.


Hit the Craw would prolly be a few bucks dearer than a BFG or MTR. Never had em but have had a little tinny wheel on 39.5's but that was all sensory overload so I don't really know how the tyre worked but they stuck on pretty good.

May wear a little faster so really get on the spanners and change tyres after you wheel em. I know money is a issue here but when you come home most of us couldn't be farked changin CD let alone 8 tyres.

I asked cheezy if the radial claw uses silica (he was not sure at the time) in the compound and if it does they should wear OK. I have not heard of anyone on here saying wether they do or dont.

BFG mm KM's have a bad rap for the side wall strength and I have seen a few tear pretty badly so would be the only reason I wouldn't get em. Otherwise they perform as a conventional muddy should.

MTR is the best allrounder available good wear good on road grip, good rock, fair to good in mud when new they clean well and the side bitters work well. THEY are noisy as piss around the 30k + mark but if you are considering the low flying Cesna tyres (JT2,ET's) then it ain't a drama. I think the major difference with these tyres from the earlier generation Muddy is the use of silica in the compound, it gives a much tighter bond in the rubber and while it is softer it still wears well. This is the main reason they grip rock well and handle good on the road.

Size wise I know you get ripped in the 33' range of MTR and BFG more like just on 32's where as the metric sizes (285/75's) on the 16in rims while more pricey give you a true or as close as to 33'

You should be able to get both BFG and MTR in the 315/75 which would give you a 34.6in diameter. I hear the 34 simex is more like 34.5 on a sixteen in rim so maybe compare the 315/75's in the other two brands with JT2's and see how they compare also considering they are a much better offroad tyre I think you might be suprised. Finally does the radial Craw come in a 315/75.

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Post by Shark »

Although im a little scared of asking a lift question, i need to know some basic information that has probally been mentioned in the last 10 pages but that for some reason i might of missed.

Standard 88 SWB Maverick, want 33's. NO ROCK WORK , ONLY HIGHWAY AND BEACH'S!!!!!!!!!

Will a 2" spring lift and maybe a new set of flares do the job????????
Will i get tailshaft vibration??????

Could i fit 33's on without any work being done to the car????????
I dont want to elaborate on this question too much as it seems most of you guys have run out of patience as far as gq lifts are concerned ( I understand completley :) )

Sorry to ask :splat:

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Post by hottiemonster »

2" spring lift is the minimum requirement to run 33's, i am not completely sure if you will be able to keep the existing flares and mudflaps but i think if you get 3" you can keen em.

Having 2" i dont think will create vibration but 3 is quite possible, every car is different and you will just have to wait and see.

this thread was basically hijacked by me and i am not fitting a 3" suspension lift and going to run 34" JT2's.

Also i know of someone with a 3" suspension lift and they run Q78 swampers which equals a 36" tyre, though they rub a little.

Maybe if you are just going to do some highway work and beach, u could probably just stick a 2" body lift in the car, cause you wont be needed suspension travel , just the height for the tyres. A body lift will be cheaper.

It is hard to say if 33's will fit under the car, take it to a specialist, like cheezy in montrose if you live in victoria, he knows where the sh*t is at!

hope this helps

ps. i have learn all of it by just asking questions myself.

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Post by MAV-RIK »

I have only done a 3" bodylift and a guard cut with new rubber flares and ive got 35/12.5/15's on my Mav shorty with no probs at all, no rubbing anywhere either, the suspension is still factory stock which is my next mod.Mav
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Post by hottiemonster »

MAV-RIK wrote:I have only done a 3" bodylift and a guard cut with new rubber flares and ive got 35/12.5/15's on my Mav shorty with no probs at all, no rubbing anywhere either, the suspension is still factory stock which is my next mod.Mav


very interesting. how much work involved for 3" body, i dont see many people do that, only 2"
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Post by Shark »

Wanted to avoid body lift if possible. Was going to do the 2" spring lift and squeeze the 33's under:)

Can anyone see any issues???

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Post by MAV-RIK »

My Mav is my 1st ever 4wd was completely stock standard riding on 31s before i put the bodylift in, reason i went 3" was my gastank towbar and everything else was dragging its guts through every rut possible, sure i could go places but nowhere near where i go now.
I got AUS4WD to fit mine in and havent looked back since, now my gas tank sits right up level with the chassis rails and doesnt touch at all whilst wheeling, they also performed the guard cut aswell for me, then i put on the 35's(only BF Goody All Terrains)and i havent been bogged in any of the places i used to since.I thought the All Terrains would be useless in the deep bogholes i go(Croc pit at Disso..etc..etc)but i get through there unaided no probs all's i have is a factory rear diff lock.
The car drives very stable and as ive said i havent had a drama with it at all being that high, next on my list is to fit a 3-4in suspension lift, a front locker and some 38's and ill be happy.Mav
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MAV-RIK wrote:My Mav is my 1st ever 4wd was completely stock standard riding on 31s before i put the bodylift in, reason i went 3" was my gastank towbar and everything else was dragging its guts through every rut possible, sure i could go places but nowhere near where i go now.
I got AUS4WD to fit mine in and havent looked back since, now my gas tank sits right up level with the chassis rails and doesnt touch at all whilst wheeling, they also performed the guard cut aswell for me, then i put on the 35's(only BF Goody All Terrains)and i havent been bogged in any of the places i used to since.I thought the All Terrains would be useless in the deep bogholes i go(Croc pit at Disso..etc..etc)but i get through there unaided no probs all's i have is a factory rear diff lock.
The car drives very stable and as ive said i havent had a drama with it at all being that high, next on my list is to fit a 3-4in suspension lift, a front locker and some 38's and ill be happy.Mav


very nice i wanna see this when it is done.
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Post by bazzle »

33s will fit with 2" springs.

3" body lift??
Like to see the legals on that..

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Post by Shark »

See i would go the body lift and the huge spring lift but basically i dont want a piece of cop bait!!! Wanted the 33's for the extra meat on the sand.

Thanks for your help guys, gonna source some 2" lift springs on monday and then go tyre shopping.

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Post by bogged »

Shark wrote:See i would go the body lift and the huge spring lift but basically i dont want a piece of cop bait!!! Wanted the 33's for the extra meat on the sand.



It will be as soon as you fit 33's! LOL..

Read the whole thread, and read it well... if you are insured.
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