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Body Repairs - how would you
Body Repairs - how would you
hi guys,
i had a terrible weekend 4wding the weekend before last and came away from it with decent dent from a bullbar.
what i want to know is how would you fix the following damage?, keeping in mind its not a daily, i dont need it looking good just functional.
my idea's - after removing the fibre glass top.
1. build a magical contraptions to mount a jack too and a nice thick peice of flat bar and litterally jack the shit out of it till its about level. - problem with this is i have nil welding skills and haven't the patients for trial and error.
2. slide hammer.. another thick peice of flatbar to bring it out evenish and a few strategically placed holes to bolt through and use my weight as an advantage for once and smash the shit of it back out - good points to this is i have the knowledge and skills to do this. there is little i think i can fuck up on it and its minimal outlay if it doesnt work.
3. round up a posse and a 9" angle grinder and make it a ute.
and before you say insurance. out of respect of the deceased and his family i refuse to even try to claim it through on insurance (and i'm 99%sure it would be writen off), and i would like to do this on my own just as if toby was there beside me making crude remarks.
any ideas or ways to improve my ideas to repair it would be appreciated[/img]
i had a terrible weekend 4wding the weekend before last and came away from it with decent dent from a bullbar.
what i want to know is how would you fix the following damage?, keeping in mind its not a daily, i dont need it looking good just functional.
my idea's - after removing the fibre glass top.
1. build a magical contraptions to mount a jack too and a nice thick peice of flat bar and litterally jack the shit out of it till its about level. - problem with this is i have nil welding skills and haven't the patients for trial and error.
2. slide hammer.. another thick peice of flatbar to bring it out evenish and a few strategically placed holes to bolt through and use my weight as an advantage for once and smash the shit of it back out - good points to this is i have the knowledge and skills to do this. there is little i think i can fuck up on it and its minimal outlay if it doesnt work.
3. round up a posse and a 9" angle grinder and make it a ute.
and before you say insurance. out of respect of the deceased and his family i refuse to even try to claim it through on insurance (and i'm 99%sure it would be writen off), and i would like to do this on my own just as if toby was there beside me making crude remarks.
any ideas or ways to improve my ideas to repair it would be appreciated[/img]
can you get into the space behind the damage?
if so start with a block of wood ie 3x2" and a large hammer and carefully tap it out in stages (not smashing the f k out of it)
a long bar pushed carefully on the panel will be visible from the outside so you know you are hitting in the right spot
when you have the bulk of it out things like a ply bar can push out smaller dents without much damage if sortof wiped acoss the rear of dent
give me a yell if you need any more help
cheers andrew
if so start with a block of wood ie 3x2" and a large hammer and carefully tap it out in stages (not smashing the f k out of it)
a long bar pushed carefully on the panel will be visible from the outside so you know you are hitting in the right spot
when you have the bulk of it out things like a ply bar can push out smaller dents without much damage if sortof wiped acoss the rear of dent
give me a yell if you need any more help
cheers andrew
85 high roof 1.3, 6.5 tc, air lockers,ruf and 34 swampers. yep its an ugly pos.
i can get in behind there no worries to use a lump of wood and a hammer.
not knowing for sure what a porta power is i assume its a hydraulic ram that would be used to push the pillar back out. assuming this is correct it what i wanted to do with the bracing and a bottle jack. i'm just unsure of where to brace the jack and jig i would have to make.
would i be best just going to a local smash repairs just to get the piller pushed back out. and beat the rest?
not knowing for sure what a porta power is i assume its a hydraulic ram that would be used to push the pillar back out. assuming this is correct it what i wanted to do with the bracing and a bottle jack. i'm just unsure of where to brace the jack and jig i would have to make.
would i be best just going to a local smash repairs just to get the piller pushed back out. and beat the rest?
ok weaves
i used to own a panel shop
dont take to your zook with a grinder like some tools here tell you
if your not confident knocking it out take it to your local panel shop and tell them to just potal power and basicly knock out the worst of it for you offer them cash you will probably get out of if for a couple of hours labour
then have a go at the smaller stuff yourself its good practice as its probably not the last repair you will need to do.
DONT BOG OVER PAINT
if the bog is more than 12 - 15 mm thick you should really knock it out a little more but thats up to you really
i used to own a panel shop
dont take to your zook with a grinder like some tools here tell you
if your not confident knocking it out take it to your local panel shop and tell them to just potal power and basicly knock out the worst of it for you offer them cash you will probably get out of if for a couple of hours labour
then have a go at the smaller stuff yourself its good practice as its probably not the last repair you will need to do.
DONT BOG OVER PAINT
if the bog is more than 12 - 15 mm thick you should really knock it out a little more but thats up to you really
85 high roof 1.3, 6.5 tc, air lockers,ruf and 34 swampers. yep its an ugly pos.
Body damage
For a couple of hundred $$ you could always see whats around and pick up a complete body tub and just swap them over. Body swaps are good fun and you may even end up with something better than what you started with if you're prepared to look for a month or two.
1998 Vitara Hard Top 2.0 EFI
65mm springs (by Allsprings)
35mm body lift
Rancho RS9000's
235's on 15in alloys
Flipped strut mounts
65mm springs (by Allsprings)
35mm body lift
Rancho RS9000's
235's on 15in alloys
Flipped strut mounts
I don't like checkerplate, mostly because it grabs rock/dirt and can jam the car up.
Aluminium checkerplate is even worse in this regard, and can't easily be painted either.
Smooth steel is much better.
I've re skinned the whole rear 3/4 of a sierra in 1.6mm and once painted it looked fine.
Chicks dig body damage though.
Steve.
Aluminium checkerplate is even worse in this regard, and can't easily be painted either.
Smooth steel is much better.
I've re skinned the whole rear 3/4 of a sierra in 1.6mm and once painted it looked fine.
Chicks dig body damage though.
Steve.
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it looks a little more tan just panel damage. the b pillar has been bent too.
for the b pillar, get a ratchet strap or winch and pull back in the opposite direction to try and straighten that up a little.
try and fix a winch or ratchet to the rear 1/4 too. might get some of the structural bends back to slightly straight and then try dressing it out with hammer/foot.
i'd definately try a block of timber though to belt up against the panel.
try to define where the bullbar hit at the worst points and try and pull them back in the opposite direction.
if all else fails find a new tub.
good luck with it.
for the b pillar, get a ratchet strap or winch and pull back in the opposite direction to try and straighten that up a little.
try and fix a winch or ratchet to the rear 1/4 too. might get some of the structural bends back to slightly straight and then try dressing it out with hammer/foot.
i'd definately try a block of timber though to belt up against the panel.
try to define where the bullbar hit at the worst points and try and pull them back in the opposite direction.
if all else fails find a new tub.
good luck with it.
I definatley don't want to replace the tub as it will just get dented to shit again. The zook will never be nor have i ever wanted it to be a show car or even pretty.
i just want to get that pillar back out a bit and also get it so the wheel well wont cut the shit out of my tyre.
thanks for all the advice guys. the block of wood and hammer will come into play and i might duck down the road to a local panel shop to see if someone wants to do a cashie and pump that pillar back out.
cheers weaves
i just want to get that pillar back out a bit and also get it so the wheel well wont cut the shit out of my tyre.
thanks for all the advice guys. the block of wood and hammer will come into play and i might duck down the road to a local panel shop to see if someone wants to do a cashie and pump that pillar back out.
cheers weaves
Re: Body damage
I say go with this option.Impulsive wrote:For a couple of hundred $$ you could always see whats around and pick up a complete body tub and just swap them over. Body swaps are good fun and you may even end up with something better than what you started with if you're prepared to look for a month or two.
Coincidentally i have a spare tub in my back yard (at Maitland) i want to get rid of.
If God did not intend for us to eat animals, then why did he make them out of meat?
I'm definatley picking up what your putting down with the hi lift jack idea. i'll have to invest in one i think. cheap and i'll use it again in the future.rgzook
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:15 pm
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block of timber and a hilift jack easiest way to bring the gaurd back out.
sinces it's a fourby
where abouts you at man could give you a hand if you like
i'm in charlestown but the car lives at edgeworth.
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