lock right lokkas?

[XXL_45L_CRUISER]

are lock right lokkas any good?
how do they work? i know what they do
but dont know how they work.

any help would be great

cheers

[joeblow]

they are cheap,you get what u pay for. they are noisy and interesting to drive on in the wet.

[V8 Hilux]

Lock right are a detriot style mechanical locker and the Lokka (by 4wd systems) is similar. Basically when you put your foot on the go petal the diff will spin both wheels. better than an lsd! (better than an air locker?)

I would not have a problem putting one in the rear diff. I had a hilux with one front and rear and currently have a 80 series with one in the front. The one in the front tends to make understeer quite badly particularly in slippery stuff, can get quite hairy!! But you sort of get used to it.

I'm thinking about pulling mine out of the 80 and putting an air locker in when i get the cash. 4wd systems don't do a lokka for lsd hemi sphere of 80 but lock right do! hope that helps

[MUD80D]

Save up and buy an air locker

[XXL_45L_CRUISER]

thanks people i will be saving lol once again thanks for the info

[me3@neuralfibre.com]

I used to have one in the REAR of my Surf - thought it was the ducks nuts.

I now have twin air lockers in the cruiser - and still love what I had in the last car. Air lockers are ok, but can be just as problematic as anything else.

Read this might help

http://neuralfibre.com/paul/4wd/mechanical-auto-lockers


Paul

[Podge]

If you did choose to go down the path of the Lokka, don't expect warranty with them.

[Devious]

Not a 4by but I put a 4wd systems one in my skyline, it was the worst thing ever. Very noisy and shocking backlash due to the design of the thing. I went back to a mini spool.

I'd go air locker.

[GRPABT1]

If you did choose to go down the path of the Lokka, don't expect warranty with them.

Their ad states 3 year warranty regardless of vehicle, tyres, driver, terrain even competition.

[bad_religion_au]

i have a detroit in the rear of the cruiser, and love it... there not comparable to lokka's tho.

have a lockright in the front. it's not bad, and cant be beat for the $$$ outlay

[Dexter]

The cost vs. performance of them is pretty damn good I reckon. I am saving up for one for the front of my car. I would love an airlocker but the 2k outlay for a truck that I dont use that much is way too much, $500 is much more palitable.

[joeblow]

in the front of a vehicle maybe, but if putting one in the rear of a car that is a daily driver thing long and hard about your choice, as the performance in the rear on the road is very questionable. i had one in the rear and hated its performance on the road and the fact i had to pull it out every so often and re-shim it so it would operate as intended. and yes, the shims do wear.

[jessie928]

paying 600 odd dollars for a lockrite and then paying a couple hundred to have it installed into your centre

versus a second hand airlocker for between 600- 900$ complete in centre....

is there really any question?

Jes

[Chucky]

I have twin air lockers and after mates 80's with lokka's I would never get them.

Nearly everyone I personally know who have run them have always ended up going to air lockers eventually

[coxy321]

paying 600 odd dollars for a lockrite and then paying a couple hundred to have it installed into your centre

versus a second hand airlocker for between 600- 900$ complete in centre....

is there really any question?

Jes

They're usually $499 from memory, plus $20 delivery Aus wide.

And you DONT need to spend hundreds of dollars paying someone to put it in. Anybody thats half handy with thier car, and can read the three pages of instructions can do it themselves. It took me 3 hours to install, mainly due to the front end needing to be disassembled.

I have one in the front of my GQ, and couldn't be happier. I've had lockers in two previous trucks and couldn't justify $1200-$1500 for a locker in a car that only does 5-6 trips a year.

As said above, for the price/performance - they're pretty hard to beat.

Coxy

[-Scott-]

They're an auto-UNlocker, which relies on traction to force the outside wheel to unlock in a corner.

They need traction to unlock and "differentiate." Without enough traction they won't unlock; if traction is marginal they may alternately unlock and grip, with "interesting" results.

I believe this is why owners of heavy vehicles ('Cruisers and Patrols) are happy with them, while owners of light vehicles (like Suzukis) don't like them - heavier vehicles are more likely to have enough traction to force them to unlock.

I have an airlocker in the front, and a (working) LSD in the rear - I'm happy.

[Podge]

If you did choose to go down the path of the Lokka, don't expect warranty with them.

Their ad states 3 year warranty regardless of vehicle, tyres, driver, terrain even competition.

With this crowd, they don't back up what is written. Myself and at least five others that took on a franchise of theirs can testify (and have) that they don't back up their warranty.

[Ben]

they are cheap,you get what u pay for. they are noisy and interesting to drive on in the wet.

That's news to me. I've got one in the front, and so in 2wd I don't notice it, and in both 2 and 4wd I've never heard it. IF you're fulltime 4wd then I can't see how they'd be any worse on road than Detroits for example.

They're cheap, and work bloody well offroad, definitely bang for your buck. I've got an airleaker in the rear, and if I leave it off I can really feel the front pulling me through stuff.

If you can pony up the coin, I'd definitely recommend them, even more so if you're only part-time. Wack one in the front and you'll be happy.

[celtlux]

I agree i have had 1 in the front of my lux for some time now & it hasn't let me down yet. The change to the steering is minimal (unless your racing i guess) & there is no noise to speak of whatsoever.

In saying that i would only ever get 1 to put up front i would choose a manually operated for the rear. I am definately putting 1 up front in my runner as for the money you can't go past them for the change in ability they give your rig.

[bad_religion_au]

paying 600 odd dollars for a lockrite and then paying a couple hundred to have it installed into your centre

versus a second hand airlocker for between 600- 900$ complete in centre....

is there really any question?

Jes

They're usually $499 from memory, plus $20 delivery Aus wide.

And you DONT need to spend hundreds of dollars paying someone to put it in. Anybody thats half handy with thier car, and can read the three pages of instructions can do it themselves. It took me 3 hours to install, mainly due to the front end needing to be disassembled.

I have one in the front of my GQ, and couldn't be happier. I've had lockers in two previous trucks and couldn't justify $1200-$1500 for a locker in a car that only does 5-6 trips a year.

As said above, for the price/performance - they're pretty hard to beat.

Coxy

exactly, i stayed back late one night at my mates workshop, and about 2am, we decided to try to fit one for giggles (second hand, NO instructions, and none of us had seen one before)... none of us are qualified mech's. we got it done, and in the rear end of his ute in a couple of hours without instructions. they are a piece of piss to install.

and compare apples with apples. a i picked up a second hand detroit soflocker (about 1200 new) for $200 and a second hand lockright for $150...

[celtlux]

Yeah they are definately a DIY install no need to spend any extra after the intial purchase, except for the victory beer for a job well done

[bad_religion_au]

Yeah they are definately a DIY install no need to spend any extra after the intial purchase, except for the victory beer for a job well done

disagree slightly... they (all lockers really) push the need for decent rollover protection higher on the list.

all the guys that i've witnessed go from unlocked - locked have layed their rig over first trip out with the lockers (me included)

[Ben]

Touch wood I haven't rolled yet. Indeed the closest I came was without lockers as I had to use a heavier right shoe.

[Emo]

I've got one in the rear of my 80 series and you'd hardly notice it was there onroad. An 80 series (AWD) is the ideal vehicle for one, lots of weight over the rear and AWD. Make sure you get it set up properly though. I reckon half the problems people have with them is due to incorrect fitting. I got Jack McNamarra Diffs to fit mine.

[XXL_45L_CRUISER]

Thanks heaps for all the replys guys.
I dont know some people say there the ducks nuts and some say there shiat its just alot of money but well spent if i go air lockers f/r. im just thinking about it atm i just want somthing and dont want problems or locking up going around round-a-bouts in the wet.mine has a part time kit in it.

[micks troll]

Thanks heaps for all the replys guys.
I dont know some people say there the ducks nuts and some say there shiat its just alot of money but well spent if i go air lockers f/r. im just thinking about it atm i just want somthing and dont want problems or locking up going around round-a-bouts in the wet.mine has a part time kit in it.

G'day mate my old man had one in his 60 series (in the front) It made it an awesome truck compared to an open diff. He knows how to drive well so he did notice it took some time to get use to it, but after 5years in the 60 the lokka was taken out and put into his new toy (a middy cruiser) he sold the middy roughly 2 years later and never ever had any trouble with the lokka! I have gone with an Air locker in the front of my GQ mainly because the biggest problem with the auto lockers is on side leans and when you turn up hill it keeps draggin you sideways where as the airlocker you can engage once you're around the corner. For there money they are still awesome, just depends how far ya wallet exspands

[coxy321]

And dont forget - you can always undo one hub in the front if you "need" that extra steering/slippage. Not recommended for long periods of use though, unless you alternate lhs to rhs driving wheel.

[GUte]

I have an Airlocker in the front at the moment as it came with the second hand centre that had the ratio's I was after.
Previous to this I had a Lock Right in the front and found it brilliant value.
When first driven they do feel quite strange but you soon get used to it to the point that eventually you think that maybe the locker is not working as well as when first fitted.
Your driving style soon adapts subconsciously.
As far as clunks, noises and ill effects! Nil.
Highly recommend them and at the time I could not justify the price of an Airlocker to only be used a few times a year and shimmed up the LSD rear.
Still have the Lock Right at home as I just can't seem to part with it.

Al.

[4x4 guy]

FRGYH

[GUte]

4WD guy look at a set of setup instructions and it will answer your questions.
Maybe you should have done this before looking like a fool insulting people who do know better.

Al.