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Laminova Cored Intercoolers (Home Brew 2. GQ TD 42 )

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Post by matt.mcinnes »

The 3rd lay out is long by narrow around 80mm X 200mm this can feed either right to left or visa versa or right to bottom.
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Post by lukiss99 »

What about something like this? Same width but a bit less in height.
I'll probably be interested in an end plate as well as the parts I messaged you about. I'm just waiting on my manifold to arrive so I can take some measurements.

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Post by matt.mcinnes »

The first one the air flows left to right with 80mm hight

Yours flowing left to right would be 84mm in hight to allow enough air through it may look thinner but when you have finished leaving space for air flow it actually becomes a little bigger.

If you need a custom end plates to fit a space just let me know it's not a problem.

Drift cars I guess are more limited space wise.
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Post by RED60 »

MM, I don't see anything mentioned here, but have you done any experiments with these cores at higher intake temps to see how effective they are at the higher temps. They should be effective, but it's always reassuring to have a few real world figures... Keep up the good work.. :cool:
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Post by ISUZUROVER »

I just ordered a set of cores and otrher bits from Matt (thanks Matt!!!). I may do something slightly different wrt tubes... but won't know till I have the cores in my hand.

Anyways - I am hoping to get the system fitted before doing a Perth-Tassie-Perth trip. So should be able to log heaps of data on "real world" performance.

(edit: will be running 15-20 psi)
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Post by matt.mcinnes »

RED60 wrote:MM, I don't see anything mentioned here, but have you done any experiments with these cores at higher intake temps to see how effective they are at the higher temps. They should be effective, but it's always reassuring to have a few real world figures... Keep up the good work.. :cool:
The TD 42 we are currently fabbing will be at 15PSI so more of a test but I only expect the cores to become more efficent, we have hardly put a strain on them at 9PSI.
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Post by benhl »

Great Work Guys - i'm still super keen to get one of these on a GU 4.2 :twisted: PLEASE let me know when you've built/tested this intake manifold and i'm hapy to be 1st cab off the rank...
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Post by matt.mcinnes »

benhl wrote:Great Work Guys - i'm still super keen to get one of these on a GU 4.2 :twisted: PLEASE let me know when you've built/tested this intake manifold and i'm hapy to be 1st cab off the rank...
Pretty sure the GU will be the next Cab off the Rank Bogged has offered his as a local test subject, but be patient.

A little advice though I bought my core at $50 for 4 many moons ago when nobody new what to do with them. They're now $250 a set and I think prices will only increase as demand pushes the price up. A smart man would pick 4 cores up now or when next available on Ebay as new they are over $800 a set and sit on them.
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Post by 80's_delirious »

matt.mcinnes wrote: A little advice though I bought my core at $50 for 4 many moons ago when nobody new what to do with them. They're now $250 a set and I think prices will only increase as demand pushes the price up. A smart man would pick 4 cores up now or when next available on Ebay as new they are over $800 a set and sit on them.

If you stop blabbin about em all over the internets the price might stay low :roll: :roll:




this has been a very interesting thread.

Have you looked at fabricating one peice end caps to retain the four cores, with it incorperating a coolant manifold or end tank with a single 32 or 38mm hose connection to supply/collect coolant to the four cores, rather than splitting into four smaller hoses? does this make sense??

might make for a neater more compact install.
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Post by matt.mcinnes »

One piece end caps maybe available as time goes on to suit our end plates once we have costed them and this is dependent on the interest in the intercoolers, but for those wishing to fabricate their own, single end caps are the most cost effective solution I believe in conjunction with the machined tubes. This was the main aim of the generic single end cap, to allow people to buy the more complicated parts cheaply and build their own.

I never really envisaged the intercooler taking off quite so much, I know it works exceptionally well, but only really expected a few to follow in my foot steps. Happy to be proved wrong for a change :D

Time will tell where this leads but for now on with the TD42

Now shhhhhh or the cores will go up another $50 :roll: :roll:

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If you look at his history he is accepting $200 ;)
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If you stop blabbin about em all over the internets the price might stay low :roll: :roll:


this has been a very interesting thread.

Have you looked at fabricating one peice end caps to retain the four cores, with it incorperating a coolant manifold or end tank with a single 32 or 38mm hose connection to supply/collect coolant to the four cores, rather than splitting into four smaller hoses? does this make sense??

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Post by lukiss99 »

The advantage of using individual end caps is they are generic to different housing designs. If a single piece end cap was built, you would have to design the housing to suit it.
Look up ESS tuning, they make performance kits for BMW's, their supercharger kits come with a new cast inlet manifold designed to house laminova cores. They use 1 piece end caps.
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Post by matt.mcinnes »

ISUZUROVER wrote:I just ordered a set of cores and otrher bits from Matt (thanks Matt!!!). I may do something slightly different wrt tubes... but won't know till I have the cores in my hand.

Anyways - I am hoping to get the system fitted before doing a Perth-Tassie-Perth trip. So should be able to log heaps of data on "real world" performance.

(edit: will be running 15-20 psi)
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Post by matt.mcinnes »

Well the end plates came in cheaper than expected.

So a complete kit now ready to weld is:

End plates $200 (this includes the fabrication of the tubes and end cap depending on which design).
End Caps $30 Qty 8
Tubes $50 Qty 4
Support Rings and O Rings $2.50 Qty 8 of each.
Post and packaging $20

So all up $700
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Post by tna racing »

im scared :finger:
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tna racing wrote:im scared :finger:
You should be you have seen me drive :armsup:
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Post by tna racing »

matt.mcinnes wrote:
tna racing wrote:im scared :finger:
You should be you have seen me drive :armsup:
maybe :finger: oh i remember, you couldnt get it out of 1st :lol: :finger: joke
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Post by matt.mcinnes »

tna racing wrote:
matt.mcinnes wrote:
tna racing wrote:im scared :finger:
You should be you have seen me drive :armsup:
maybe :finger: oh i remember, you couldnt get it out of 1st :lol: :finger: joke
That was 3rd :D
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Post by tna racing »

nah was 5th i swear :finger:
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Post by matt.mcinnes »

tna racing wrote:nah was 1st i swear :finger:
Walk next time :armsup:
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Post by tna racing »

matt.mcinnes wrote:
tna racing wrote:nah was 1st i swear :finger:
Walk next time :armsup:
dont be like that.

nah fellas his car goes very well. and the cooler works awsome as. keep up the work guys :armsup: :armsup:
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Post by matt.mcinnes »

Ok back on topic at least for a little while.

Called in to see Awill4x4 and things are coming along nicely the TD42 is looking very smick.

A little more work and then time to drill and tap the holes and assemble the cores and end caps.. Then in the tank for pressure testing. After that final integration into the manifold.

Mean while on the side a custom monster 8 core duel pass is off the drawing board :shock:

PS Ab'z :finger:
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Post by tna racing »

looking good guys


ps matty :finger: :D
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Post by marin »

Look at all the pretty welds :)

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Post by matt.mcinnes »

marin wrote:Look at all the pretty welds :)

marin
Me and Andrew decided yesterday that we are going to put it on EBay and let you bid for it, unless you agree to return it if you sell the TD42 Mav, it's worth more :D

Yes Marin is test case No1, not the world most powerful TD42 Mav but one I can lay my hands on any time while he's away in Perth so called working.
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matt.mcinnes wrote:
marin wrote:Look at all the pretty welds :)

marin
Me and Andrew decided yesterday that we are going to put it on EBay and let you bid for it, unless you agree to return it if you sell the TD42 Mav, it's worth more :D

Yes Marin is test case No1, not the world most powerful TD42 Mav but one I can lay my hands on any time while he's away in Perth so called working.
:finger: This car is a long term car, so no hope of me selling it for QUITE a while. Hence not wheeling it till I get barwork, unlike it's unfortunate predecessor :roll:

But you're right, it wouldn't be worth selling the car with the intercooler on it, these laminovas work WAY to well to just give them away like that!

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Post by tna racing »

i got a rb30 manifold here ya can attack :D
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tna racing wrote:i got a rb30 manifold here ya can attack :D
So does the WHOLE of http://www.calaisturbo.com.au/

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Post by matt.mcinnes »

Got the plates back today for the 8 Core intercooler.

Next up to fabricate the Tubes

This will almost be as cool as my Coopers :D
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marin wrote:
tna racing wrote:i got a rb30 manifold here ya can attack :D
So does the WHOLE of http://www.calaisturbo.com.au/

marin
righto, wont look at buying a intercooler then :finger:
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Post by marin »

pale ale isn't cool, sparkling is the way 2 go

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