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cost of a buggy

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cost of a buggy

Post by Nat84 »

what do you guys think it would cost to build a buggy but on the chep side but still with a tube frame??

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Post by redzook »

starting from scratch

for a decent one with a good seat , cromo axles, good quality heims


20000 easily

you could build them cheaper with plastic seats rubber bushes stock axles

for 12000 - 13000

in the end you would replace all the cheap stuff cause it breaks, wears out , or hurts

thats my opinion
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Post by MissDrew »

Agree.
20g min for something worth while.

Currently there are a few forsale and you will buy something just as good if not better for that much or less.
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Post by bogged »

Guts wrote:Agree.
20g min for something worth while..
bit more than I thought they would be... but never priced the bits.. So really they are only somethign to build if your serious, not for a weekender
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Post by Strange Rover »

Heres some costings that I posted here back in 2005...nothing much has really changed cost wise building somehting on the cheap....
I have been trying to build something turnkey for $5000 labour which really is cutting it fairly tight. For us at Haultech there is about 200 hours in building something that I have built before - so this works out to be $25/hour which is very cheap and really not enough money to make it worth while but Ill do it for anybody who is keen to compete in WE Rock cause I really want to get this thing happening.

Heres some costs of something like Tonys Budgie:

Engine/gearbox/transfer (96disco) - 4000
Axles (hilux) - 750
Steel - 500
Steering - 350
Steer hoses - 200
Pedal assembly (hilux) - 100
Steering wheel - 150
Seats - 200
Harnsses - 200
suspension links (bushes all round) - 500
wheels/beadlocks/tyres - 2500
tailshafts - 200
Radiator/fans -300
radiator piping - 100
fuel tank - 300
gauges - 150
fuelpump - 150
wiring - 200
panals(aluminium) - 200
paint - 150
shocks - 320
springs and mount plates - 350
winch - 1000


Total - 12550

plus 5000 labour = 17500 and this doesent include lockers.

But this is to get something like Tonys budgie.

To get to Adrians Jeckle you need plus
Heim joints 1000
full hydro - 1500
fox air shox - 2200
and less the components that you remove.

To do things cheaper you could buy a donor car and try to use everything out of it.

Could sart with a 86 rangie with auto gearbox and carbed 3.5L v8 and power steer - for say $2000 so this would be

Rangie - $2000
Axles (hilux) - 750 (would still go for hilux axles)
Steel - 500
Steering wheel - 150 (rangie steering wheel way to big)
Seats - 200
Harnsses - 200
Links - 0 (Use rangie links all round but make the rear lowers longer and stronger)
wheels/beadlocks/tyres - 2500
Radiator fan -100
radiator piping - 100
fuel tank - 300
gauges - 150
fuelpump - 0 (rangie already got one)
wiring - 200
panals(aluminium) - 200
paint - 150
shocks - 320 (still need longer shocks)
springs and mount plates - 0 (from rangie)
winch - 1000

Total - 8820 + labour (and stillno lockers)

If you went for a cheaper rangie couls get something for $500 - (manual and power steer)

so total here would be $7320
If you used the rangie diffs then $6570 but then the axles are week and you will struggle for enough gearing

If you run a carbed 3.5l rangie v8 should really run 4.88 hilux axles. If you run a late model 3.9injected then the 4.3 or 4.1 hilux work well. If you want a bit more crown and pinion strength then toyota 60 series works very well (both Tony and myself eat Hilux crownwheels - they never have failed but we are always swapping them out cause we chip teeth)

For me Im not sure that there is a cheeper way than using a rangie or disco engine/gearbox/transfer cause they are relatively cheep and powerfull and you dont need to throw transfer gears at them cause with the V8 and stock low range of 3.3:1 they work not too bad.

We are now looking at using Comnodore V6 and T700 auto in front of a rover LT230 transfer (this is the one we are all using) This works out to be:
engine and geabox from commodore - 1000
transfer - 600
remove and replace output shaft for resplining - 400
respline output shaft - 400
auto to transfer adapter - 600

total - 3000. What this does is gets you perfect gearing (3:1 first gear and 3.3:1 transfer) and a much cheaper engine and gearbox if you do blow something up. It also should be slightly cheaper than the $4000 setups we are currently using but we havnt done this yet so it may not necessarily work out cheaper.
Tony's Budgie had coil springs, normal 14in travel shocks and range rover suspension bushes and a steering box ...didnt have heim joints or air shocks or full hydro.

Adrians Jeckle had full hydro, heim joints and air shocks.

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Post by Strange Rover »

So since then the most common power plant is the comodore v6/turbo 700 and then adapt to rover transfer which is fairly straight forward if you know how. So cost is about $600 for good v6 and t700 and say $500 for good rover transfer and then say $500 to adapt if you know how to do it your self and maybe $1000 if you dont.

Throw in some 60 series diffs for $800 front and rear and you are away...just add up the rest of the bits and you have your cost.

I recon I could build something more capable than any bodied rig for less than $7000 in parts...plus wheels and tyres

Engine/gearbox/commodore) - 600
Transfer (rover) - 500
Adapter - 600
Axles (60 series) - 600
Steel - 500
full hydro steer - 1500
Pedal assembly - 100
Steering wheel - 150
Seats - 200
Harnsses - 200
suspension links with cheap heims - 1000
tailshafts - 200
Radiator/fans -150
radiator piping - 100
fuel tank - 300
fuelpump - 150



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Post by antt »

cheapest way (as with any vehicle) is to buy it secondhand already built

exhibit A - http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic153710.php
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Post by bogged »

antt wrote:cheapest way (as with any vehicle) is to buy it secondhand already built

exhibit A - http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic153710.php
Sams listing above really shows that the buggy here is a good deal!
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Post by N*A*M »

i would probably consider selling this pimp ride for a good deal :D

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Post by Nat84 »

Strange Rover wrote:So since then the most common power plant is the comodore v6/turbo 700 and then adapt to rover transfer which is fairly straight forward if you know how. So cost is about $600 for good v6 and t700 and say $500 for good rover transfer and then say $500 to adapt if you know how to do it your self and maybe $1000 if you dont.

Throw in some 60 series diffs for $800 front and rear and you are away...just add up the rest of the bits and you have your cost.

I recon I could build something more capable than any bodied rig for less than $7000 in parts...plus wheels and tyres

Engine/gearbox/commodore) - 600
Transfer (rover) - 500
Adapter - 600
Axles (60 series) - 600
Steel - 500
full hydro steer - 1500
Pedal assembly - 100
Steering wheel - 150
Seats - 200
Harnsses - 200
suspension links with cheap heims - 1000
tailshafts - 200
Radiator/fans -150
radiator piping - 100
fuel tank - 300
fuelpump - 150



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i can get a comodore v6 but it is bolted to a hilux 5speed for 800

and i have a 60 S with front air locker and 35's but don't know if 35's are big enough??
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Post by Spartacus »

N*A*M wrote:i would probably consider selling this pimp ride for a good deal :D

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Probably get more $ for selling the buggy ;)
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Post by big38l »

I am looking into building a pro-mod at the moment! Just going to copy Daves(tonys) buggy frame wise, with a few alterations! Still trying to figure out if I want to run thr rover drivetrain, have thought of the v6 but I just love the sound of an 8 too much, n know I won't be really happy if it didn't have that! $ wise, I am going to spread it out over the next few months, n get it done before next years comps.... Hopefully!
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