Tube Buggy

Post by **Strange Rover** » Fri Jan 09, 2004 10:14 pm

landy_man wrote:I'm picking my toy cv's up tomorrow...how much work do you reckon the spindles will need

Have to bore them out so that the 30 spliner can fit through and also have to maching the brass bush end to take the stock toy brass bush.

Sam

Post by **landy_man** » Fri Jan 09, 2004 10:21 pm

thanks for that.. will make sure I get the bush as well. I was going to buy jacmacs bushes but a mate has a lathe so we will give it a go next week when I get the rear axles as I am assuming the rear spindles need to be bored for the jacmac axles as well.....does he do the rears 30 inner 35 outer or is it just 30 - 30

Post by **POS** » Fri Jan 09, 2004 10:21 pm

Sam!

Looks really good!

The pic of "Right hand down on the bridge" Looks awesome!!

Did you make the fuel tank yourself or did you buy it????

Also i have just noticed that in the Zero g the aluminium Floor and Firewall is all riveted in (in sections), i thought it was tig welded ( or FUSIONED :lol:

).

Post by **Strange Rover** » Fri Jan 09, 2004 10:22 pm

30-30

Post by **OVERKILL ENG** » Fri Jan 09, 2004 10:33 pm

Lookin good whats it like to drive??
SAM

Post by **bj on roids** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 7:38 am

Juvenile and childish behaviour.

hasnt even cut the bits off the bottom of the frame, that held it off the ground :armsup:

That looks awesome, love the fuel tank. Although, I hope at some stage you swap out the rod battery for a real passenger.

Post by **bj on roids** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 7:40 am

POS wrote:Sam!

Looks really good!

The pic of "Right hand down on the bridge" Looks awesome!!

Did you make the fuel tank yourself or did you buy it????

Also i have just noticed that in the Zero g the aluminium Floor and Firewall is all riveted in (in sections), i thought it was tig welded ( or FUSIONED ).

PISSER!!!!

Post by **Loanrangie** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 9:05 pm

OK, enough of the pics, you are making us all jealous !!!

Post by **MY45** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 9:49 am

Loanrangie wrote:OK, enough of the pics, you are making us all jealous !!!

No way, we loooove the pics

Post by **Strange Rover** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 7:28 pm

Everythings getting closer now. Got most of it wired. Got the alternator and power steer pump done, thermo fans done. Its on the trailer and going to the exhaust shop first thing tomorrow. Then all thats left is the power steer lines, shocks and floor and firewall and pannel work and the braking system and then the fine tuning. Hopefully will have a bit of a decent test run next weekend and be ready for xrcc the following weekend.

It drives really good. Front wheel drive is working incredibly well with the open centre diff, much more manouverable than my mogrover.

Sam

Post by **landy_man** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 7:35 pm

Strange Rover wrote: Front wheel drive is working incredibly well with the open centre diff, much more manouverable than my mogrover.

Sam

excuse me ....say what :shock:

could you please provide some tech info about this mod on the lt230.......... or is it "secret sam's business"

Post by **RUFF** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:28 pm

landy_man wrote:
Strange Rover wrote: Front wheel drive is working incredibly well with the open centre diff, much more manouverable than my mogrover.

Sam

excuse me ....say what
could you please provide some tech info about this mod on the lt230.......... or is it "secret sam's business"

Its called a Handbrake

Post by **landy_man** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:47 pm

ok so just "locking" the rear driveshaft thereby forcing the centre diff to provide drive to the front........

let us know how long it lasts...

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:11 am

Looks great Sam - I like the height adjustable upper coil mounts - great idea!!!

So when does the patented HaulTech ETC go in???

Post by **HSV Rangie** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:32 am

Sam,
Once again very nice work.

Michael.

Post by **Britswed** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 6:47 pm

Sensational

Cheers Mal

Post by **POS** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:38 pm

Strange Rover wrote:Everythings getting closer now. Got most of it wired. Got the alternator and power steer pump done, thermo fans done. Its on the trailer and going to the exhaust shop first thing tomorrow. Then all thats left is the power steer lines, shocks and floor and firewall and pannel work and the braking system and then the fine tuning. Hopefully will have a bit of a decent test run next weekend and be ready for xrcc the following weekend.

It drives really good. Front wheel drive is working incredibly well with the open centre diff, much more manouverable than my mogrover.

Sam

WOW thats great news!

I am glad that it pulls around easier than the mogster (less stress on the front diff) this would have been my only concern but obviously with the dramatic weight reduction it takes less effort!

Post by **bj on roids** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:42 am

Sam sat there ripping a front wheel skid on 42s. then hopped in his newish model disco and started rippin up with that aswell :lol:

GOLD!

Post by **Strange Rover** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:50 am

bj on roids wrote:Sam sat there ripping a front wheel skid on 42s. then hopped in his newish model disco and started rippin up with that aswell

GOLD!

Fawk yea - everybody with a Rover should be doing them.

Sam

Post by **landy_man** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:06 pm

i better start stocking up on LT230's.......bring it on

Post by **POS** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:43 pm

Strange Rover wrote:
bj on roids wrote:Sam sat there ripping a front wheel skid on 42s. then hopped in his newish model disco and started rippin up with that aswell

GOLD!

Fawk yea - everybody with a Rover should be doing them.

Sam

You no i am sitting here now thinking of somewhere close i can go and try it! :lol:

Post by **derangedrover** » Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:53 pm

Sam

A few Q's

How much weight do you think it saves by going full tube instead of using a significant portion of the RR chassis as a base? (considering your keeping close to original dimensions/whelbase etc)

Would it make registration easier to retain the chassis?

An opinion/guess on the weight of a RR body. 600kg including everything thats inside, electricals, seats etc etc?

Cheers
Daryl

(thinking bad things about his RR now that its not a DD whilst waiting for his copy of Light Vehicle Mod code.......)

Post by **Midget** » Wed Jan 14, 2004 7:46 pm

very nice sam...
looks great,can't wait to see it up at xrcc..
I'll be ringing the RTA 2morrow to get my copy of the rules and reg for an individial constructed vehicle...
If it all works there may be another rock crawling buggy being started soon...

Jamie

Post by **Strange Rover** » Wed Jan 14, 2004 9:25 pm

derangedrover wrote:Sam

A few Q's

How much weight do you think it saves by going full tube instead of using a significant portion of the RR chassis as a base? (considering your keeping close to original dimensions/whelbase etc)

Would it make registration easier to retain the chassis?

An opinion/guess on the weight of a RR body. 600kg including everything thats inside, electricals, seats etc etc?

Cheers
Daryl

(thinking bad things about his RR now that its not a DD whilst waiting for his copy of Light Vehicle Mod code.......)

A range rover chassis doesent really weigh much - the chassis that is in my mogrover would weigh less than 100kg by the time I cut all the brackets and some of the cross members out of it. For me its more the shape of the chassis that I didnt want and although registeration would be nice - for me its not essential. I just wanted to make sure that whatever I did to build this buggy I wasnt going to do something that would totally elliminate the possibility of getting it registered. Now to go through the process to get it ADRed and registered is a lot of work and ATM I probably wont bother cause I got so many things that I should be doing instead.

If you could build one of these things and register it as the origional vehicle that the chassis came from then it would be a bit easier to register IMO. Say you had a 1974 rangie and you just modified it into a tube buggy then you may be able to keep it registered as a 1974 rangie and only have to comply to 1974 ADRs. Although IMO by the time you comply to 1974 ADRs there isnt much more to do to comply to 2004 ADRs so you arnt really saving much. Although you would miss out on a few of the preliminary steps that you have to do to build an indivuadly constructed vehicle (like an application to Qld trans to get a compliance plate exemption)

Now would it be easier to register if I retained the chassis - well maybe - it would depend on how the engineer was going to handle it cause to build something so modified onto a piece of chassis is a fine line as to what the vehicle actually is. It may still have to be individually constructed. If the chassis and drive train was largly unmodified then you may still be able to register it as a range rover.

Sam

Post by **GRIMACE** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:31 am

Good Luck with insurance

I can just imaging the chick on the other line "So has your Range Rover got any modifications?"

After ten minutes and about 7869 words from your mouth the chick would be like :shock:

You get your policy paper after you accept the quote (if you even got one) and its got ten pages just for Mod/Custom stuff and about $10000 premium

Post by **derangedrover** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:13 pm

Have had a look at the mod code, and basically unless youve got lots of time and money a buggy of any sort seems nearly impossible to get engineered in QLD.
After speaking to an inspector who couldn't be made to understand what the basic concept was I think it would be easier to ram my head up my own arse than deal with QLD transport......

Post by **Strange Rover** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:15 pm

derangedrover wrote:Have had a look at the mod code, and basically unless youve got lots of time and money a buggy of any sort seems nearly impossible to get engineered in QLD.
After speaking to an inspector who couldn't be made to understand what the basic concept was I think it would be easier to ram my head up my own arse than deal with QLD transport......

My understanding is that you dont have to deal with qld transport except for the first stage where you make an application for a compliance plate exemption for your individually constructed vehicle. After that its just a matter of satisfying all the ADRs and handling tests and proving to the engineer that the vehicle is safe.

It still is a lot of work although not at all impossible IMO.

Sam

Post by **andy & di** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:33 pm

Vrey impressive build up Sam I look forward to seeing you in action at xrcc

Post by **Strange Rover** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 9:47 pm

Everything is getting close to be finished. About the only thing left to do is modify the spindles to take 110 CVs (the transport company lost my custom inner axles so I carnt run the longfields :cry:

) and then make the firewall and floor and external skins and mount bonnet. And then paint and somewhere in there I have to go for a bit of a test drive but I might have to skip this part.

Got to be finished on Friday and I think i will make it.

Sam

Post by **Bush65** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:31 pm

Good luck Sam.

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