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where to mount a UHF tab?
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where to mount a UHF tab?
I need to make a decision where to weld the antenna mount for my UHF pretty soon. I don't want to mount it on the center hoop of the bullbar because it will interfere with the bonnet.
If make a mount down on one of the wings will i get rubbish TX from having a lower ground plane, or the metal of the car being higher than the base?
Any suggestions where to mount it? on the roof or roll bar is out because i'll rip it off in short order.
the only thing left to add is a set of scrub bars and sliders
If make a mount down on one of the wings will i get rubbish TX from having a lower ground plane, or the metal of the car being higher than the base?
Any suggestions where to mount it? on the roof or roll bar is out because i'll rip it off in short order.
the only thing left to add is a set of scrub bars and sliders
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The ideal place for an antenna is the centre of the roof. A cheap flexible antenna mounted there will outperform any bar mounted antenna. I have a centre roof antenna and also a very expensive eletraphone bar mounted antenna for those times when I use a roof rack and I can guarantee the roof one is better at around 1/9th the cost.
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cheers mate, persistence pays off it seems.AUSDOG wrote:i got no idea where to mount your antanna, but your truck is f@#kn sick!
i think i might temporarily mount it on the front bar and when i make an exo for it i'll mount it on the roof with a smallish flexible whip.
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GME have a small bracket that you screw on the side under the bonnet. the tab ends up outside. I have used a few of them on some mine vehicles, they seem to do the job. http://www.gme.net.au/public/images/pro ... b403ss.jpg
GME also have a glass mounted antenna, I dunno how these perform, but that may be an option.
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GME also have a glass mounted antenna, I dunno how these perform, but that may be an option.
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Re: where to mount a UHF tab?
If it's only for comp work then distance of transmission isn't a huge issue so what about mounting it on the bars behind the cab with the top of the antenna above the cab.rockcrawler31 wrote:I need to make a decision where to weld the antenna mount for my UHF pretty soon.
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these are the go, we have started using these at work so we dont have to replace broken ones frequently. pretty cheap really and work reasonably well
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I'd fab a bracket that mounted off the A pillar snorkle mount. Put it forward and just to the inside of the snorkle. Run the cable down the rain gutter and under the bonnet, or run it straight under the door rubber and into the cab. Its a compromise- not as low as the bullbar, not as high as the roof, and protected a bit by the snorkle.
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another option would be to use a 1/4 wave.. you wont break it.
it all depends on how far you want to be able to be heard
it all depends on how far you want to be able to be heard
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Re: where to mount a UHF tab?
how much space is between that bar and the bonnet, it looks very very close....? first thing you hit with it will Tonka0 the bonnet.rockcrawler31 wrote:
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There's about 3 inches to the front of the bonnet. It's closer than i'd like but i can't change it now. the uprights will be getting gusseted and hopefully if i hit something hard enough to move it, it will hit the bonnet parallel and just take paint off or enough to bog it up.
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Re: where to mount a UHF tab?
That's a new one!bogged wrote:how much space is between that bar and the bonnet, it looks very very close....? first thing you hit with it will Tonka0 the bonnet.rockcrawler31 wrote:
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Re: where to mount a UHF tab?
ToNkA wrote:That's a new one!bogged wrote:how much space is between that bar and the bonnet, it looks very very close....? first thing you hit with it will Tonka0 the bonnet.rockcrawler31 wrote:
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Just a balls up when making it. I noticed after i welded it all up so it was a bit late. I could probably pie cut the upright tube a fraction just above the existing horizontals and stand it up a little more but it might look poo and won't be as strong.j-top paj wrote:whys the bar so close anyway? not much room for movement when you have a hit
Oh well. lesson for next time.
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It doesn't need to go on the roof as UHF are ground plane independant, hence don't need to be surrounded by a sq metre of steel (ground plane) like the old 27mhz cb aeriels used to.
I suspect that the truck is going to be used in the bush rather than out in the desert. Therefore a high db gain is not needed, it has been proven to be detrimental in thick bush, but beneficial in open spaces.
As far as sighting the aeriel, I would place it on the top of the main part of the bull bar, between the headlight and the indicator. You will get good receiption from there.
If you are unsure, tack a few different tabs on the bull bar and try the aeriel on them all to see if the reception is better or worse, until you are happy. The other tabs can then be ground off.
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I suspect that the truck is going to be used in the bush rather than out in the desert. Therefore a high db gain is not needed, it has been proven to be detrimental in thick bush, but beneficial in open spaces.
As far as sighting the aeriel, I would place it on the top of the main part of the bull bar, between the headlight and the indicator. You will get good receiption from there.
If you are unsure, tack a few different tabs on the bull bar and try the aeriel on them all to see if the reception is better or worse, until you are happy. The other tabs can then be ground off.
My 0.02c worth
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Unfortunately that is incorrect. You can buy a very cheap antenna for around $20.00 that is ground plane dependant. The one I use is approx 150 mm tall and flexible. It easily outperforms a very expensive ground plane independant antenna mounted to the bull bar. As the small antenna is only 4,5db gain it is ideally suited to hilly country.Corgie Carrier wrote:It doesn't need to go on the roof as UHF are ground plane independant, hence don't need to be surrounded by a sq metre of steel (ground plane) like the old 27mhz cb aeriels used to.
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Corgie Carrier wrote:It doesn't need to go on the roof as UHF are ground plane independant, hence don't need to be surrounded by a sq metre of steel (ground plane) like the old 27mhz cb aeriels used to.
i dont know where to begin with that
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corgie, it still works best up high. and sitting on the bullbar meanit it wont work aswell behind the vehicle as the body of the vehicle gets in the way of the signal. ground dependant worked the other way, in that if mounted to the front, it will work better towards the rear...
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