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Guard chop!!
Guard chop!!
If you have done a guard chop, firewall chop, or headlight thingy chop, please post your pics up!! I would start, but i havent done it "yet".
F&R ARB air lockers, lux diffs, 4 link coil rear, drop shackles, inboarded ranchos, stage 4 reduction gears, 35" silverstones, 9500 winch, RUF, 1.6 EFI, swimming goggles
I say give it a go! I have no previous experience in panel work and needed to fit my 32's without any lift (lack of funds basically) and to remove the accumulating rust.
Tools needed:
6 inch angle grinder
assortment of hammers
welder of some type or Pop rivets if you'd rather do it that way
gap filler(bog)
paint
and some courage to make the first cut!
Tools needed:
6 inch angle grinder
assortment of hammers
welder of some type or Pop rivets if you'd rather do it that way
gap filler(bog)
paint
and some courage to make the first cut!
More Suzuki parts going to the big Suzuki Heaven in the sky!
Any pics buddy?Kitika wrote:I say give it a go! I have no previous experience in panel work and needed to fit my 32's without any lift (lack of funds basically) and to remove the accumulating rust.
Tools needed:
6 inch angle grinder
assortment of hammers
welder of some type or Pop rivets if you'd rather do it that way
gap filler(bog)
paint
and some courage to make the first cut!
F&R ARB air lockers, lux diffs, 4 link coil rear, drop shackles, inboarded ranchos, stage 4 reduction gears, 35" silverstones, 9500 winch, RUF, 1.6 EFI, swimming goggles
Long time reader, first time poster.
After hours of web surfing i am finally in the middle of doing virtual lift at the moment. Wish i had had my pics to look at first.
NT, Worn 31x10.5, 2 inch spring, 1" shackle
I cut along a line just below the scallop on the guard with a hack saw blade.
cut the inner guard from the outer.
left all the head light mounting intact.
Ground off the remaining bit of the outer guard from the inner.
Have retained the factory shape and strength of the inner guard.
Massaged the firewall to follow the same line.
Currently have the passenger side inner guard lifted up 30mm to meet to new guard line in prep for welding .Lines up perfect. Firewall welds complete.
Should give me the same clearance as a 30mm body lift, with no firewall rub at all.
Will post up some more pics when i have them.
After hours of web surfing i am finally in the middle of doing virtual lift at the moment. Wish i had had my pics to look at first.
NT, Worn 31x10.5, 2 inch spring, 1" shackle
I cut along a line just below the scallop on the guard with a hack saw blade.
cut the inner guard from the outer.
left all the head light mounting intact.
Ground off the remaining bit of the outer guard from the inner.
Have retained the factory shape and strength of the inner guard.
Massaged the firewall to follow the same line.
Currently have the passenger side inner guard lifted up 30mm to meet to new guard line in prep for welding .Lines up perfect. Firewall welds complete.
Should give me the same clearance as a 30mm body lift, with no firewall rub at all.
Will post up some more pics when i have them.
I don't have any photos of my "virtual lift", but it was done in a not dissimilar manor to the what other members have done.
The aim was to fit a 35x13.5 on a 15x10 rim.
basically cut the guards out of the car, chopped all the way around at a height greater than the rib that surrounds the stock guards.
At the rear, relocate the fuel filler, and then go through the very painful task of re-boxing the area at the front of the wheel well where the floor drops away. The front part of the wheelwell now sits flush with the chassis mount.
At the front, for bonus points, the firewall has been pulled back so that it sits flush with the body / chassis mounts... this has some affect on accelerator pedal position etc... Then for double bonus points, rather than chopping the back of the headlight bucket, we chopped 100mm out of the center of the grill and narrowed the whole front end to match the bonnet... this keeps the headlights away from the tyres... then modified the front inner guards to suite and lifted them 2 inches approx.
This was all done on a car with a 2" body lift.
It was the RUF that necessitated the narrow front end. i.e. the front end moved forward under compression.
The aim was to fit a 35x13.5 on a 15x10 rim.
basically cut the guards out of the car, chopped all the way around at a height greater than the rib that surrounds the stock guards.
At the rear, relocate the fuel filler, and then go through the very painful task of re-boxing the area at the front of the wheel well where the floor drops away. The front part of the wheelwell now sits flush with the chassis mount.
At the front, for bonus points, the firewall has been pulled back so that it sits flush with the body / chassis mounts... this has some affect on accelerator pedal position etc... Then for double bonus points, rather than chopping the back of the headlight bucket, we chopped 100mm out of the center of the grill and narrowed the whole front end to match the bonnet... this keeps the headlights away from the tyres... then modified the front inner guards to suite and lifted them 2 inches approx.
This was all done on a car with a 2" body lift.
It was the RUF that necessitated the narrow front end. i.e. the front end moved forward under compression.
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the inner guards were also cut and moved up 25mm in the front and the rear was tubbed.
I don't have any photos of the work in progress, but as you can see, Greg ended up with quite a large front guard.
The sills are 130mm shorter than a stock sierra.
Steve.
I don't have any photos of the work in progress, but as you can see, Greg ended up with quite a large front guard.
The sills are 130mm shorter than a stock sierra.
Steve.
[quote="greg"] some say he is a man without happy dreams, or that he sees silver linings on clouds and wonders why they are not platinum... all we know, is he's called the stevie.[/quote]
you don't really have to cut the firewall out. You can split the seam along the floor and up the inner kick panel, then pull it all back and then bend the floor up at the body mount to meet the new location of the firewall.
You can also cut the whole sill out and cut out 65mm and weld it back in to meet up with the new firewall position- then the pinch weld etc all looks stock in the guard.
I've done them very quick and rough, quick and rough, and gregs, which took forever but looks super neat.
Steve.
You can also cut the whole sill out and cut out 65mm and weld it back in to meet up with the new firewall position- then the pinch weld etc all looks stock in the guard.
I've done them very quick and rough, quick and rough, and gregs, which took forever but looks super neat.
Steve.
[quote="greg"] some say he is a man without happy dreams, or that he sees silver linings on clouds and wonders why they are not platinum... all we know, is he's called the stevie.[/quote]
All this talk of guard chops I thought I better do mine BEFORE I get bigger tyres.
What I started with... NT front clip.
I cut up to the bottom of the swage line. Into the inner guard just enough so the bit left had no roll down to the lip.
Filled with a strip approx 800 X 35 x 1.6mm
And body deadened..
Still a bit to cut at the back but will get to it later.
Jas.
What I started with... NT front clip.
I cut up to the bottom of the swage line. Into the inner guard just enough so the bit left had no roll down to the lip.
Filled with a strip approx 800 X 35 x 1.6mm
And body deadened..
Still a bit to cut at the back but will get to it later.
Jas.
Getting ready for the 35's!! I cut it out, made a bit of plate up.. pop-rivited it on, then used sikaflex. These are "true" 33" tires.. i'll be running silverstone 35's. Hopefully they wont rub! 
Before:
After! (but the other side)
Before:
After! (but the other side)
F&R ARB air lockers, lux diffs, 4 link coil rear, drop shackles, inboarded ranchos, stage 4 reduction gears, 35" silverstones, 9500 winch, RUF, 1.6 EFI, swimming goggles
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i got a second hand set for 550 1 brand newjust cruizin' wrote:If you talking the extremes and you can find a set as to the best of my knowledge they aren't doing the 33's anymore. Yes the will fit, the tyres are only a 31.5 real size and with 2" spring + 2"BL I get no rub.
fark spewin. looks like il just have to go bigger next
and try not to roll the bloddy hi top
85 hi top drover, 31s, 2 inch exended shackles 2 inch bl.
88 tb42 swb mav,35 claws, 4 inch lift
88 tb42 swb mav,35 claws, 4 inch lift
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