patrol shocks

Post by **zook4fun** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:53 pm

Has any one on here put the 4" patrol shock in the range rover? I'm looking at doing this in mine and am just wondering how it goes? Any pic on the top mount would be good

Post by **Suspension Stuff** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:21 pm

A 2" Patrol rear shock 660mm extended is plenty long enough for most or you could use 3" shocks at a push. 700mm extended.

A 4" shock will either be 700 or 730mm or maybe more which would be too long for just about everyone.

You have the pin to eye adapter on the bottom which gives you an extra 30mm + so you do lose compressed length and will have to raise bump stops.

If you can get the shocks for next to nothing then it definetly is worth doing if the shock was 700mm at the longest but if you have to pay for them then you are better off getting the shock with the correct ends.

Ride quality is fine running Patrol shocks.

We have Procomp shocks with up to 750mm extended with the correct ends for the Rangie which should be more then enough.

We also have Boss adjustable shocks with the correct ends for a Rangie in lengths up to 800mm now and 1metre in the new year. These shocks are what I would really recommend.

The pin to eye adapter is basically a bolt welded to a U bracket with a bolt going through it to take the other shock. If someone hasn't got a pick happening in a couple of days I will take a pic for you.

Shane

Post by **86MUD** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:49 pm

Listen to Shane....

I went down that path, but it worked out so much easier to get the procomp shocks from Shane. Straight forward install with maximum articulation without compromising compressed length.

Hey Shane....did you watch the 4wdaction DVD yet?

Cheers

Andrew

Post by **def90** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:54 pm

hey shane the adaptor is + 50mm (isn't it?). what springs will you run, i have 2" springs and + 2" patrol shocks (given that fender back is same as rangie? can't remember) and i bottom out shocks on up travel - but getting some new shock mounts made soon 2 counteract this and regain full uptravel

Post by **zook4fun** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:29 pm

i'll be running 2" lifted springs, new top mounts and disconnects. just found out i need to make up some different disconnects as i'll be running some poly bags in the rear as well.

Post by **def90** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:59 pm

any pics of the new top shock mounts? extended by how much? if you drop the top mounts you need alot shorter shocks or big bump stops?

disconnects? u running sway bars? or u talking relocation cones?

Post by **zook4fun** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:32 pm

i'll be doing the top mounts when i have the shocks. just have to part out the old project 1st before i get the shocks. top mounts will only be 25-50 mm higher. will have the shock on more of a angle so when the diff moves the shock will move slower then std

it will be relocation cones no sway bars but have poly bags as well i want to run. the normal cones wont work with the bags.

Post by **def90** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:42 pm

zook4fun wrote:i'll be doing the top mounts when i have the shocks. just have to part out the old project 1st before i get the shocks. top mounts will only be 25-50 mm higher. will have the shock on more of a angle so when the diff moves the shock will move slower then std

it will be relocation cones no sway bars but have poly bags as well i want to run. the normal cones wont work with the bags.

thought so, was confused with the disconnect bit. i will be doing the same in rear, 90's are the same size dia. coil in the rear as a rangie. just gotta get around to sorting shock mounts and polyair position and bottom/top plates for them.

Post by **zook4fun** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:06 pm

i'll be making longer mounts for the shocks. you have confused me, why are you making them shorter?

the bump stop spacers are because the compressed shock will be a bit bigger than when the bumpstops start working unless i can get the top mount up enough to not need the spacers then i'll have the same up travle and heaps more drop.

disconnects will have to go on the outside of the spring. every one i find is on the inside won't work with the polys.

front is looking harder as i'll have to make up some thing the keep the springs seated the whole time. it will have new towers in the front as well.

my aim is the have a low car with 50-80 mm up travel and heaps of drop.

Post by **zook4fun** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:11 pm

top mounts will be something like this.

Post by **def90** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:43 pm

i will do something similar but come out past the body so i can go up further.

Post by **awright** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:29 pm

I have a set of fully adjustable Kone GQ rears and 80 series fronts (both heaps longer than RR standard). They were fully rebuilt by Leslies with Range Rover valving and customised to bolt straight into a range rover or discovery with no mods required.

They are currently sitting in my shed having come off my exs old disco after about 9 months of on road travel and have always had the internal bump stops fitted to prevent overcompression damage. They have been waiting for my much anticipated "shed clearout" post on outerlimits. (Havent got around to it yet) They owe me nearly a grand but sensible offers considered...Trust me they wont disappoint!

I also have the front shock tower spacers if your setup needs them!

Post by **GRIMACE** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:46 am

def90 wrote:i will do something similar but come out past the body so i can go up further.

just make sure you check and double check clearance for the tyre when it stuffs into the wheel well.

all in all it's good to see people rasing their shock mounts.

Post by **Slunnie** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:19 pm

GRIMACE wrote: all in all it's good to see people rasing their shock mounts.

The pommy mentality of lifting a 4WD and then lowering the shock mounts really does my head in.

Post by **GRIMACE** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:20 pm

Slunnie wrote:
GRIMACE wrote: all in all it's good to see people rasing their shock mounts.
The pommy mentality of lifting a 4WD and then lowering the shock mounts really does my head in.

yay i'm not the only one!

Post by **qserv** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:42 pm

this is the setup i run in the rear of my county, i beleive these procomp shocks are 32in at full extension with 14 odd in of travel.

The uppoer mount was folded up by a friend using 12mm plate, i mounted the shock pins directly into the plate, they have 2 holes setup for use, one spaces it up 2-3in the other 4-5in, i am using the upper hole as the shock nearly hit full compression on that one still, the pin is not angled at all, it just sits horizontally. for the lower mount i am using a pin to eye convertor, you can see it in place in one shot, its just sitting in the hole not the wy i mounted it, i have actualy spaced it up a little on one side so it sits more vertical. I checked out the angles on the eyes, as it sits at the moment it works out very well at both full drop and tuck, im limited by my a-frame at the moment, if i could free it up i could get a further 1-2in out of the shock before its at full drop..

now if only i could get my front end flexing just as well!!

Post by **def90** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:44 pm

GRIMACE wrote:
def90 wrote:i will do something similar but come out past the body so i can go up further.
just make sure you check and double check clearance for the tyre when it stuffs into the wheel well.

all in all it's good to see people rasing their shock mounts.

had a look at mickas rangie today and didn't realise that the rangie body comes out further then the defender/county body, on fenders tyre clearance isn't an issue but i can see it would on rangies.

no point dropping your shock mounts IF you are going to loose full compression i think.

Qserv nice simple mounts, do you have any bracing on the internal side of the bend? (i know its 12mm plate, but the folds may fatigue with time/hard use? but i'm far from any engineer)

Post by **Slunnie** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:38 pm

I'm not sure what you're running on the front, though if you're running Patrol rears at the front, you can also pick up D2 turrets pretty cheap whic use an eye rather than a pin.

Post by **def90** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:18 pm

as lazy as i am (been meaning to do it for a month or so now) whats the height difference between front D2 turrets and fenders slunnie?

Post by **Slunnie** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:33 pm

def90 wrote:as lazy as i am (been meaning to do it for a month or so now) whats the height difference between front D2 turrets and fenders slunnie?

I'm not sure what the Defenders are, though the D2 is 10" from where it bolts to the spring perch up to the centre of the bolt.

Post by **Michele** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:19 pm

No height difference...

I might take a pic of the 2 side by side if you want.

Post by **Slunnie** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:38 pm

That'd be really interesting Michele! Thanks for this. I'm surprised that people aren't changing the D1/RRC/Def turret for D2 ones.

Post by **Michele** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:47 pm

G'day mate,
happy to share.

I got D2 turrets (for free) to fit my new Bilsteins "eyed" 7100s,
but I still miss a couple of bits so they're sitting there doing nothing!

Will take a pic this evening and post tomorrow.

Post by **Michele** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:58 pm

Here's a couple of pics!

Post by **def90** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:11 pm

if one was going to build taller turrets would one (without checking sizes of different pin and eye shocks first) run with eye or pin top mounts??

Post by **Suspension Stuff** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:43 pm

EYE

If someone wants to produce some of these shock mount relocaters and turrets as an ongoing thing I would put them up on my web site.

Shane

Post by **def90** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:13 pm

hhmmmm looks like we may have to look at some shocka lengths soon shane.....

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