Laminova Cored Intercoolers (Home Brew 2. GQ TD 42 )

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:57 pm

My heat exchanger is in the back no issues at all with thermo fans on it.

Post by **Z()LTAN** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:08 pm

do you find the extra piping to and from the cooler gives a slow heat gain, thats alot of extra water

Is it easy to bleed if the rad is much higher than the cooler?

Is it worth putting 2 pumps on it, one to and one from?

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:45 pm

Z()LTAN wrote:do you find the extra piping to and from the cooler gives a slow heat gain, thats alot of extra water

Is it easy to bleed if the rad is much higher than the cooler?

Is it worth putting 2 pumps on it, one to and one from?

More water the better.

Davis Craig pumps shift either 80 or 110 liters per min depending on the model.

You need to bleed the air at intercooler but that's easy to do with ours.

2 Pumps are not needed.

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:40 am

This has been Laminova'd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBkX8GS5 ... =rec-HM-rn

Post by **Z()LTAN** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:33 am

that thing is quick

and whines more than a dog at dinner time

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:58 am

The BMW intercooler is ready for drilling and tapping and should be pushing close to 600hp from one of our generic 4 core designs.

Post by **clm434** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:53 am

matt.mcinnes wrote:The BMW intercooler is ready for drilling and tapping and should be pushing close to 600hp from one of our generic 4 core designs.

Are you guys designing car parts or art work????

Post by **clm434** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:01 am

matt.mcinnes wrote:This has been Laminova'd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBkX8GS5 ... =rec-HM-rn

535hp @ 8250 RPM

Cast aluminium look doesn't look as professional as your coolers.

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:58 am

clm434 wrote:
matt.mcinnes wrote:This has been Laminova'd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBkX8GS5 ... =rec-HM-rn
535hp @ 8250 RPM

Cast aluminium look doesn't look as professional as your coolers.

I agree all that money and I would have at least made it a little more bling than just a casting. The BMW were working on should be a close match for it.
318is with a 335i block and 745i head shoe horned into it @ 18psi.

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:59 pm

Now back to the Mav, called in at TrikFab today to pick the 12 core up for machining tomorrow morning and Marin's rad will be ready tomorrow, the mountings, bleed point and returns from the intercooler are done. Just the main feed to the pump to do.

Rather than use a 4 way splitter on the return we elected to feed each intercooler core out let into the radiator direct, just need drilling and tapping to take the fittings.

Post by **awill4x4** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:34 pm

clm434 wrote: Are you guys designing car parts or art work????

Yeah, the end tanks were fun to do particularly on the outlet side where the transition is rectangular to oval then oval to round.
We found an excellent program to generate the sheetmetal layouts we require. It only takes minutes to generate the layout but it's a liiiiiiiitttttle bit longer to fabricate and weld them.
Regards Andrew.

Post by **SilverBulletBM** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:55 pm

Is there anywhere else i can find info on the BMW build, i have a similar project and will be looking at doin pretty much same thing.
Also keen on seeing a GU with a generic one fitted and the approx cost of it all... Just to get a comparison, what inlet temps would a normal W/A cooler get, say a frozenboost one, if anyones got any figures.
Cheers
Aaron

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:28 pm

SilverBulletBM wrote:Is there anywhere else i can find info on the BMW build, i have a similar project and will be looking at doin pretty much same thing.
Also keen on seeing a GU with a generic one fitted and the approx cost of it all... Just to get a comparison, what inlet temps would a normal W/A cooler get, say a frozenboost one, if anyones got any figures.
Cheers
Aaron

Most of the BMW is here that we have posted so far. But we won't be showing the internals

Generic ones are not costed as yet but soon.

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:46 pm

OK Marin all ready for plumbing and mounting.

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:09 am

Are we there yet

Post by **coxy321** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:45 am

Have you guys run into any problems with lack of real estate under the bonnets of some of the newer cars? How do you normally get around this?

I'd assume you would relocate a few bits and pieces, and then try to work with what space you have available??

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:46 pm

Well Marin actual did some work

Cutting and welding the plates for the radiator mounts taken from the Telstar

Mounted and the 4 returns drilled and tapped.

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:56 pm

First of the lines run and time to call it a day.

But first a quick look at how the new ARB looks.

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:35 am

Coolant return lines are run.

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:15 pm

Feed to the pump connected.

Pump fitted and piping run.

Air box back in.

Feed lines completed

Next up the wiring

Post by **lewie** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:03 pm

good work lads very tidy

Post by **RED60** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:47 pm

Good work boys keep it up...

Post by **ozy1** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:55 am

looking sweet, so whens the plan to have this back on the dyno?

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:46 am

ozy1 wrote:looking sweet, so whens the plan to have this back on the dyno?

Andy at DzlTec is back on Monday So I will see what he has on.

May just hard wire the pump and fan for testing as Marin flies out to Perth again on Monday and won't be back for 2 weeks, don't think I can wait that long to see how well this one works, Should get closer to ambient than mine having a better heat exchanger and hopefully the same results from the intercooler.
Marin's Turbo makes a little more heat at 11 psi.

The pressure drop for the intercooler last run was .2psi at 11psi but that was with no cooling so I expect a little more for the temperature drop.

Just have to fit the remote fill.

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:20 am

BMW is almost complete too.

Post by **Tojo** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:43 pm

great work and great that you post pics to show it all. Does the heat exchanger need to be that big or could you get away with something smaller?

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:15 pm

Tojo wrote:great work and great that you post pics to show it all. Does the heat exchanger need to be that big or could you get away with something smaller?

I actually have here in front of me end plates for a 2 core and a 3 core unit.

Each core is rated to 150HP but this has nothing to do with how much heat they can remove so we are going to build a couple of smaller units.

Just to build more information.

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:12 pm

Well early start this morning and the Mav is all done.

Post by **Hoonz** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:29 pm

that bar needs lifting looks gumby :p

so how does it perform?

Post by **marin** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:27 pm

Rumour has it that it has cooled the air enough that they were able to add enough fuel to make 100.8kW @ EGT of 470C maximum with no smoke out da exhaust.

I'm sure dyno chart will be up soon enough.

I have my happy face on!

marin

edit: And yes, the bar looks gumby, but I only just bought it, looks wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy batter than the gaybar that was on there b4 (smartbar) so still have to mod it for body lift and high mount.

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