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vitara 31's welded diff keeps snapping passengers side axel

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vitara 31's welded diff keeps snapping passengers side axel

Post by danssurf82 »

does anyone out there know if i can get stronger axels
how much?
where from?
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Post by joeblow »

gee funny that!.....sort the gearing out......buy a real locker.....or use the fast pedal differently. better still buy a sierra.
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Post by Eddy »

... or go back down to smaller tyres ...
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Post by tails83 »

joeblow wrote:gee funny that!.....sort the gearing out......buy a real locker.....or use the fast pedal differently. better still buy a sierra.
i don't know the answer but i am not gonna bag you out about your car.

buy a real locker, why it does the same as any locker but permanently engaged. if it weren't for the 1% of decent material I read on forums i wouldn't even bother at all reading this crap.
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Post by atari4x4 »

is it a 22 spline or 26 spline front diff, carby or efi?
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Post by Eddy »

tails83 wrote:
i don't know the answer but ... ... blah blah ... if it weren't for the 1% of decent material I read on forums i wouldn't even bother at all reading this crap.
chill a bit dude.

to get a good answer you need to ask a good question.

Simple answer on the info supplied, is alter the right foot activity or go back to smaller tyres.
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Post by wardy1 »

Eddy wrote:
tails83 wrote:
i don't know the answer but ... ... blah blah ... if it weren't for the 1% of decent material I read on forums i wouldn't even bother at all reading this crap.
chill a bit dude.

to get a good answer you need to ask a good question.
"does anyone out there know if i can get stronger axels
how much?
where from? "

Seems like a pretty good question, to the point and simple what more do you want?
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Post by danssurf82 »

even if i buy a real locker i will still break axels they r just not strong enough. i need stronger ones.
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Post by brendan_h »

all he wants is to know if there are any aftermarket/strong axels. not how to drive or put smaller tires
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Post by DEADZOOK »

if you have welded the sun gears up even the slightest bit crooked it dont matter how strong an axle you get you'll bust it. get another centre and start again will be your cheapest option.
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Post by dad »

yeah brendan i think what old mate is wondering if anyone makes chro-mo axles for his vit.

i know hes pulled the minispool out temporarily and put an open center in in the meantime.

i agree with joebloes last comment... haha

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Post by badger »

2 vitara axels in 1 weekend on 31's??

theres guys running 35's out there who have never broken an axel, perhapse you are pushing too hard

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/kickaxles.htm
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Post by ajsr »

while your shopping at lowrange for axles buy a proper locked spool or even better a lockright (it will at least release pressure some of the time on those axles)
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Post by danssurf82 »

hey dead zook the diff has been locked for over 2-3 years. never had a prob thats mine the maroon one next the black sierra
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Post by atari4x4 »

badger wrote:2 vitara axels in 1 weekend on 31's??

theres guys running 35's out there who have never broken an axel, perhapse you are pushing too hard

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/kickaxles.htm
They look like rear axles to me?
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front has cv's
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Post by money_killer »

ajsr wrote:while your shopping at lowrange for axles buy a proper locked spool or even better a lockright (it will at least release pressure some of the time on those axles)
i would put a lokka in it also.
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Post by danssurf82 »

i will not alter my driving style or my right foot pattern because whatever the boys with their lifted, 35's and front and rear locked hilux's can do my vitara does better. and thats the way its going to stay.

does anyone know where to get the billet or chromolly axels from? DIFF TECHNICS are useless and will not help me!! and come across rude and arogent. would not deal with them now even if they could get me the strongest axels in the world!!!!
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Post by dad »

try that link softy
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Post by ajsr »

javascript:newWindow('images/sidekick/axles/kickaxleshafts.jpg','kickaxleshafts','400','300')

you want rear axles yes????

if so repeat after me LOW RANGE OFFROAD
see link posts above mine

if front is what your looking for I think your shit out of luck buy PM joeblow just in case he may knowhttp://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/kickaxles.htm
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Post by danssurf82 »

i have they r not for vitara they r for sidekick, x90....... just cause u have a impotent sierra that needs AMI nasel delivery technology to get it up
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Post by ajsr »

junior last time I checked sidekick or tracker one of those two were a vitara under another name but you'd know that if you spent less time telling everyone how good your vit and driving are :finger:
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Post by atari4x4 »

danssurf82 wrote:i have they r not for vitara they r for sidekick, x90....... just cause u have a impotent sierra that needs AMI nasel delivery technology to get it up
aren't the x-90, sidekick, tracker, vitara the same thing?
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Post by danssurf82 »

the msg was not 2 u it was to 'dad'
im sure they could have different spline or lenght will have to email them for sizes
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Post by zooker »

The Sidekick is what they rebadged vitaras as in the US. Same as sierras are re-badged as a Samurai.

i.e. Vitara/Sidekick/Tracker = same axles ;)
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Post by badger »

badger wrote:
2 vitara axels in 1 weekend on 31's??

theres guys running 35's out there who have never broken an axel, perhapse you are pushing too hard

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/kickaxles.htm


They look like rear axles to me?
funny that, they are rear axles as a vitara front doesnt have axles[/u][/b]
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Post by Guy »

Your welded up diff is crooked or you have bent the housing, or both

Unless you have done a radical engine swap and those AT tyres have some magical way of obtaining traction that defies modern science
With those tyres on a 26 spline diff you should not be breaking axles.

Unless you do something about the crook centre or housing you will break whatever you put in there.
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Post by danssurf82 »

diff housing looks straight
inside the centre where the axles go where they snap off they have chewed the centre out a bit but not in the spline part, would that bit of chewed out shit be weakening it?
should i get a new diff welded up??
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Post by money_killer »

get a auto locker less then $500, i wouldnt go a mini spool
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Post by Guy »

danssurf82 wrote:diff housing looks straight
inside the centre where the axles go where they snap off they have chewed the centre out a bit but not in the spline part, would that bit of chewed out shit be weakening it?
should i get a new diff welded up??
air lockers are too expensive to put on a car that has a re-sale value of 1000... it has no straight pannels left...
If it were me I would try to track down a whole new rear end before dropping big $$ on cro-mo stuff. A lockright or if your happy with the welded rear I would do a minispool.
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