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yeah thats awesome , u watch that will be the first buggy to win XRCC
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308LUX wrote:congratulations Sam...how about a run down on how it went
Rig felt really good. Lots of power, good crawling rearing and plenty of accleration and wheelspeed if I stood on the throttle.
Its a bit low in the middle so I will lift it a few inches and probably move the front axle forward 3-4 inches to get a better approach angle (its exactly 90deg ATM but I hit it on a few things cause its so low) Springs are a bit stiff and so Im not getting as much flex as I need (ramps 1000 on 20 degree) so I may swap in something softer.
Traction control worked very well and with a bit more tunning for this rig it will work better. This is the first time Ive run the traction control on both ends without any lockers in a competition (which is where the name comes from "lockless monster" - Ive always wanted to use that but this is the first time Ive actually stepped up and not ran any lockers at all) and Im pleased to say that it didnt perform any different to the locked rigs.
Sam
Strange Rover wrote:308LUX wrote:congratulations Sam...how about a run down on how it went
Rig felt really good. Lots of power, good crawling rearing and plenty of accleration and wheelspeed if I stood on the throttle.
Its a bit low in the middle so I will lift it a few inches and probably move the front axle forward 3-4 inches to get a better approach angle (its exactly 90deg ATM but I hit it on a few things cause its so low) Springs are a bit stiff and so Im not getting as much flex as I need (ramps 1000 on 20 degree) so I may swap in something softer.
Traction control worked very well and with a bit more tunning for this rig it will work better. This is the first time Ive run the traction control on both ends without any lockers in a competition (which is where the name comes from "lockless monster" - Ive always wanted to use that but this is the first time Ive actually stepped up and not ran any lockers at all) and Im pleased to say that it didnt perform any different to the locked rigs.
Sam
In conjuction with the traction control, did you have LSDs or did you run open diffs?
Damo wrote:In conjuction with the traction control, did you have LSDs or did you run open diffs?
I'm pretty sure it has hilux LSD's and the traction control. Probably wouldn't have worked as well if it had open diffs and traction control.
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ISUZUROVER wrote:Damo wrote:In conjuction with the traction control, did you have LSDs or did you run open diffs?
I'm pretty sure it has hilux LSD's and the traction control. Probably wouldn't have worked as well if it had open diffs and traction control.
Actually got a hilux limo in the front and a tru track limited slip in the rear. The limited slips allows the ETC to react faster making the whole thing so much closer to a locker setup.
With totaly open diffs you carnt have it reacting as fast and it would be noticable in certain types of terrain (like throttling climbs that have offset ledges). For the stuff we drove at this round of XRCC it wouldnt have performed any differently IMO.
I believe that out traction control is a very good balance between increasing traction while minimising the increase in trivetrain loads.
Although with the limited slips I can fairly well crank the traction control up so that you get very little wheelspin at all which doesent let the drivetrain "give " much when a spinning wheel hits something solid which is basically what happened today when I broke the CV. I couldnt drive this climb and basically had everything locked up fairly solid and max revs swinging off the steering wheel. You can never know how strong a setup is unless you breakit sometime and today I learned something. Thread to this here
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=159251
Sam
Strange Rover wrote:landy_man wrote:any updates on the lockless monster
Nah - the only thing I have done with it is flogged it around the back yard a few times. Probably nothing much will change on it until a few weeks before Qrock then I will get a bit of motivation again.
Sam
what did you end up doing about the rover cv...did your longfield arrive
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