New Kevlar Good Year MTR

Post by **SIM79** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:39 pm

Link for more info
http://goodyeartires.com/goodyeartirese ... &sidewall=

[/img]http://goodyeartires.com/goodyeartirese ... 38.jpg[img]

Post by **Skegbudley** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:24 pm

Thats one weird looking tyre.
Looks like a cross between a m/t & a a/t. Not a toned down version though.
Half the tyre is a/t and the other half is m/t.

Post by **SIM79** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:50 pm

Looks like a rally car tyre

the side wall tread looks disappointing

Post by **k3lst** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:50 pm

price would be the decider imo

Post by **75 cruser** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:14 pm

not many sizes in 15inch, from what ive heard the 15s are on the way out

rob

Post by **alien** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:40 pm

Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar
The Revolutionary Off-Road Tire Built With The Rugged Toughness of DuPont™ Kevlar® For Enhanced Sidewall Puncture Resistance

FEATURES BENEFITS
DuPont™ Kevlar® reinforced sidewalls Help increase sidewall puncture resistance by 35% for confidence in tough terrain*
Hardworking wraparound tread Offers enhanced sidewall traction in deep mud, sand and rocks
Innovative asymmetric tread design Offers aggressive off-road traction while maintaining enhanced handling on the road
Advanced silica rubber For superb off-road and wet traction

Definitely look more like something you'd whack on the WRX before heading to the gravel roads...

im curious about how the tread would actually go in mud though - someone buy them and give us a review!

Post by **flexytj** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:22 pm

alien wrote:

Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar
The Revolutionary Off-Road Tire Built With The Rugged Toughness of DuPont™ Kevlar® For Enhanced Sidewall Puncture Resistance

FEATURES BENEFITS
DuPont™ Kevlar® reinforced sidewalls Help increase sidewall puncture resistance by 35% for confidence in tough terrain*
Hardworking wraparound tread Offers enhanced sidewall traction in deep mud, sand and rocks
Innovative asymmetric tread design Offers aggressive off-road traction while maintaining enhanced handling on the road
Advanced silica rubber For superb off-road and wet traction
Definitely look more like something you'd whack on the WRX before heading to the gravel roads...

im curious about how the tread would actually go in mud though - someone buy them and give us a review!

couldnt be any worse than the current mtr in mud

Post by **bogged** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:18 pm

http://www.bajaracingnews.com/

New Goodyear Wrangler MT/R®

with Kevlar®

Tackles Off-Road Challenges
AKRON, Ohio, Feb. 2 – When it comes to developing a tire that can take on tough terrain, such as exploring trails or crawling rocks, engineers at The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company left no stone unturned. The new Goodyear Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar is the company’s first off-road tire built with the rugged toughness of DuPont Kevlar® for enhanced sidewall puncture resistance.

The use of Kevlar, an innovative material that is, pound-for-pound, five times stronger than steel, brings superb sidewall cut- and puncture-resistance to an area of the tire that demands extra toughness when driving off-road. It also helps reinforce the sidewall for when drivers return to the pavement for the drive home.

“The new Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar updates the legendary off-road performing namesake, which has had a great reputation among serious off-roaders,” said Melissa Montisano, Goodyear’s general manager for light-truck tires. “This new tire will certainly get the attention of anyone who takes off-road traction seriously.”

The Kevlar-reinforced sidewalls in the new tire help increase sidewall puncture resistance by 35 percent, compared to the original Wrangler MT/R, a tire well-known for its toughness.

However, sidewall toughness is not the only feature of the Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar. It also includes a “wraparound” tread for enhanced sidewall traction in deep mud, sand and rocks; an innovative asymmetric tread design that offers aggressive off-road traction while maintaining handling on the road; and advanced rubber silica in the tread for superb off-road and wet traction.

Further, the Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar offers these features:

Tread Guards, to help resist cuts from stones.
Advanced Mud-Flow Geometry, to help provide self-cleaning and traction in mud.
Traction Blocks, to help provide additional biting edges on rocks, mud, dirt and sand.
A Three-Ply Sidewall, with opposing cord angles for enhanced side wall cut- and puncture-resistance.
Ramped Tread Blocks, for toughness in off-road driving.
Staggered Sidewall Shoulder Blocks, to help provide enhanced traction on rocks and in deep mud.
Durawall Rubber, a Goodyear exclusive, which offers rugged toughness and helps resist cuts and punctures in the sidewall.
Rim Protector, to help protect wheels from accidental curb-like damage.
Rim Lock, to help prevent wheel slip for minimal balancing throughout the life of the tire.
Each shoulder block of the Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar is stepped “in” and “out” to help give the tire continuous biting edges as it turns through thick mud. Its self-cleaning asymmetric tread design also adds to the performance capability in mud.

Available in March, the new tire is offered in 30 sizes, fitting vehicles such as ½-, ¾- and 1-ton pickups, Hummer H2 and H3, Jeep Wrangler, Nissan Xterra, Toyota FJ Cruiser and more. According to Goodyear research, there are more than four million drivers in the light-truck tire segment who use their vehicles primarily for off-road travel.

The addition of the Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar adds to Goodyear’s strong Wrangler family of tires, which also includes the Wrangler DuraTrac and Wrangler SilentArmor.

Post by **pridhac** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:21 pm

75 cruser wrote:not many sizes in 15inch, from what ive heard the 15s are on the way out

rob

There are 33s and 35s listed in 15". These are the sizes that I use (and therefore assume are the most popular.... ;-)

Post by **evanstaniland** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:50 pm

pridhac wrote:
75 cruser wrote:not many sizes in 15inch, from what ive heard the 15s are on the way out

rob

There are 33s and 35s listed in 15". These are the sizes that I use (and therefore assume are the most popular.... ;-)

i have 37s on a 15 rim!!

but you can also get 42s

Post by **dogbreath_48** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:04 pm

bogged wrote:http://www.bajaracingnews.com/

Was going to say, they look more like a racing tyre

Post by **tweak'e** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:19 pm

MT/R's are not a mud tire.

the kevlar ones look good, meant to have improved onroad traction which would be great for us. we do light 4x4 use, back country roads and lots of highway driving.

unfortunately they don't have one in our size :(

Post by **SIM79** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:50 pm

Found this on Pirate4x4

[QUOTE=IV WHLN;9370918]My understanding is that this new tire is designed for the rock crawling entusiast that see's daily driving duties (same goal as any mud terrain). Goodyear spent a week up at Donor Ski resort running the we-rock lines with the Rubicon Express fleet Jeeps getting footage for the new advertising campagne. Each vehicle was outfitted with the new tires on Walkers then returned since these were pre-relese tires. Obviously these were comp rigs but from what I heard they ran some interesting lines and tires did very well on the rocks as well as the road.[/QUOTE]

Post by **mmaaxx** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:31 pm

well then if the New MTR is for the daily driver and Rock Crawling rig, then Goodyear should make a FMR - a Full Mud Radial !!!

For those of us that druive on the road everyday and still want good performance in the mud!

Post by **ausyota** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:03 am

Vid of Walker Evans talking about the new MTR
http://my.off-road.com/_Walker-Evans-ta ... 27589.html

Post by **GRPABT1** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:22 pm

I think they wouldn't be too bad in the mud for a daily driver/tourer's point of view, they have decent voids near the edges of the tyre.

Sadly I think we are at a point these days where manufacturers are running out of ideas for tread design. With the likes of the Simex ET, Maxxis Trepador, Swampers etc I think there is little to improve on in hardcore tyre tread design.

That's why I think we will find alot more company's start making their mud terrains and "maximum traction" tyres more road friendly.

Post by **pridhac** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:30 pm

I hope these new MT/Rs are good. I love my current MT/Rs except when its muddy, and I get very tired of swapping between these and ET2s, which suck everywhere that it is not muddy.

Hopefully the new MT/Rs will be great everywhere.......

Post by **bogged** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:04 pm

pridhac wrote:Hopefully the new MT/Rs will be great everywhere.......

I also love MTR's... 3rd set, would get another set to stick in the shed if I had the bux before they change. Dont hold your breath.. look at them.. They will be shit in mud.

maybe the new Toyo MT's will be the new MTR for me...

Post by **ofr57** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:24 pm

for me they look like a mall cruiser tyre .... sorta looks like a have arsed rip of a trapador

Post by **BUSTED100** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:23 pm

to me, they look like they have sort of ripped of the Trapador but left a row of their old MTR lugs on the inside for a difference

Post by **ausyota** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:02 pm

For those complaining about the tightness of the tread dont forget to go and compare a current 30" MTR to a 35" MTR.
If you have a look at the glimps of the tyre in the Walker Evans clip it is a bigger size and it looks like it has good size voids.
I agree that the side biters dont look as though they will do much.
But if it has 30% stronger sidewalls than I reckon they will be a kick arse tyre in everything other than heavy mud (same as current MTRs).
Im always farking sidewalls and it gets damn expensive.
My new tourer/tow rig has BFG mall terrains and I cut a sidewall (unrepairable) within the first 2 minutes of me locking the hubs in for the first time

Post by **just cruizin'** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:22 pm

ausyota wrote:Vid of Walker Evans talking about the new MTR
http://my.off-road.com/_Walker-Evans-ta ... 27589.html

Wow, an employee of Goodyear towing the company line. Doesn't really matter who he is or what he's done, he's getting paid, bottom line.

That said, we all know the current MTR's are crap in the mud, they are a Maximum Traction Radial not a Mud Terrain so let's get that straight.

The current MTR are a fantastic tyre, especially with the silicon they grip exceptionally well when new to half worn. For a tyre that you can run everyday without too much compromise nothing beats them for value on rocks and dirt. Before any says too much how well to claw etc handle on road in comparasion.

The new MTR has lost the side bitters of the current mould. Look to be more favoured to on road or speed events but without loosing too much aggression on the main contact surface. MTR's don't seem to suffer the side wall punctures as badly as others though this will certainly reduce that further so lets all wait and see.

Post by **SIM79** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:51 am

Tire Technology for the MTR
http://my.off-road.com/_Tire-Technology ... 89.html?b=

I am keen to try a set, the tread pattern looks very open and it should work better in mud.

Good Year Advert for new MTR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR_POY9rPOI

Post by **GRPABT1** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:05 am

In that first vid Sim you can really see the open tread design and the tread depth. I too think they will be better in the mud than the last MTR

Post by **bogged** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:15 pm

from patrol forum

Canuck wrote:I heard that the MTR's had kevlar for a number of years now but weren't allowed to advertise it because they had not made a licensing agreement to do so. They are calling them "Fierce Attitude" over in the market here. With a gay name like that they are beconing to the bling market - not to wheelers.

Post by **flylux** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:13 pm

Has anyone come across any prices yet? (sorry if it's already been mentioned, i only scanned through)

If its anything like mountainbike tyres, they'll be nearly double the price!
ie. a steel beaded mountainbike tyre is around $35 and a kevlar bead (heaps lighter weight but still strong) is $70 plus!

It is a bit of an odd tread pattern.

Post by **SIM79** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:38 am

flylux wrote:Has anyone come across any prices yet? (sorry if it's already been mentioned, i only scanned through)

To early for prices as this tyre isn't available in U.S.A for another week or two, the last MTR took two years to get here after it was released in the U.S.A. Hopefully this one gets here faster, it still would be minimum of 1 year wait.

Post by **Slunnie** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:12 am

SIM79 wrote:
flylux wrote:Has anyone come across any prices yet? (sorry if it's already been mentioned, i only scanned through)
To early for prices as this tyre isn't available in U.S.A for another week or two, the last MTR took two years to get here after it was released in the U.S.A. Hopefully this one gets here faster, it still would be minimum of 1 year wait.

Thats for the hack. It takes 5 days the way I do things.

Post by **Slunnie** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:22 am

SIM79 wrote:Tire Technology for the MTR
http://my.off-road.com/_Tire-Technology ... 89.html?b=

I am keen to try a set, the tread pattern looks very open and it should work better in mud.

Good Year Advert for new MTR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR_POY9rPOI

What an interesting tyre. What I don't understand is why would they make the "dam" offset on the tyre rather than centralised, and as a result will they be producing left and right tyres or does the DS tyre clear mud to under the 4WD. It'll make life interesting in ruts. I wonder if they've also been able to design the tyre to be as smooth and as quite as the old MTR (relative to other similar void tyres). Did they maintain the silica compound?

Post by **tweak'e** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:39 am

i suspect the offset design would be to improve tarseal driving.
if the can get rid of the noise the MTR's normally make on smooth tarseal then they will have a winner.

i've had other AT's that are nice and quiet on the tar but they are a joke offroad even on grass.

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