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warn winch problem

Post by antpoo69 »

hey all


im having a bit of trouble with my warn winch. when i try to wind out the cable the motor engages and works fine, but when i go to wind the winch in, the solanoid just clicks in the main power box and the motor won't start.

i've just bought the car and i've never had a winch before. no instruction manual came with it either.

any help would be appreciated
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Post by taps »

You will need to replace 2 of the 4 solonoids in the control box, test light which one are not contacting
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Post by cooki_monsta »

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Post by antpoo69 »

any idea wat may have cause the problem
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Post by pongo »

antpoo69 wrote:any idea wat may have cause the problem
Vibration or from hitting roos. i ended up rubber mounting mine in the engine bay and it seemed to fix the problem
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Post by antpoo69 »

awesome i'll see how i go.
thanks for the info

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Post by bazzle »

Give the solenoid body a 'rap" when operating.
Sometimes moisture makes the centre shaft bind.

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Post by DIRTY ROCK STAR »

now if it isnt working in either direction and makes a little click sound.... all 4 solenoids?
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Post by antpoo69 »

problem solved!!!

it was one solanoid. cost me $28 and it's all fixed.
thanks for all the info.
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Post by Leeroy »

Then for another $56 you can parrallel the winch IN circuit and multiply the reliability by 10, with the two extra solenoids.

Remember your warn winch pulls 460 odd amps at full load, which is not shared between the two solenoids. It sort of goes in a figure 8 (power to field 2, short armature to field one) so that's 460 amps thru each solenoid that is rated at 100 amps continuous! No wonder warn don't warrant the solenoids....

I've changed mine to six solenoids and done a few others and since then never stuffed one (touch wood).

Hope that gives food for thought...
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Post by Ice »

DIRTY ROCK STAR wrote:now if it isnt working in either direction and makes a little click sound.... all 4 solenoids?
The click is the solenoids working...although they may not be swiitching

could be anything tony, get onto it with a multi meter and see if they are switching, or drop if off and return my bender and ill have a look for you :)
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Post by +dj_hansen+ »

Leeroy wrote:Then for another $56 you can parrallel the winch IN circuit and multiply the reliability by 10, with the two extra solenoids.

Remember your warn winch pulls 460 odd amps at full load, which is not shared between the two solenoids. It sort of goes in a figure 8 (power to field 2, short armature to field one) so that's 460 amps thru each solenoid that is rated at 100 amps continuous! No wonder warn don't warrant the solenoids....

I've changed mine to six solenoids and done a few others and since then never stuffed one (touch wood).

Hope that gives food for thought...
got a wiring diagram? too lazy/stoopid to work it out sorry.
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Post by Leeroy »

Sorry I'm WAY too stoopid (ie computer illiterate) to make a picture go on a website... I'll try to explain it, if no good pm me I'll draw it up and get my missus to scan it and email it to you or something.


Ok mount two solenoids where ever you see fit (shorter the cable distance the better). On one of them, attach a cable from one of the large terminals to the positive battery terminal (at least 2B&S). Connect the other large terminal (2B&S cable again) to F2 on your winch motor.

With the other solenoid, attach a 2B&S cable from one terminal to F1, and the other goes to the armature (A).

Ok now the two small terminals; on each solenoid earth one of the small terminals to a good earth. Wire the other one (4mm is fine) to either of the two small terminals in the normal solenoid box that has the GREEN wire attached to it. Green is the winch-in positive.

This will work on both the older style (3 wires in remote plug) and the newer (5 wires) warns.

As a bonus doing this cuts the volt loss at full load by about a quarter of a volt; improving power and minimising heat build up to a small degree.

Hope that all makes sense.
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Post by RED60 »

Leeroy wrote:Sorry I'm WAY too stoopid (ie computer illiterate) to make a picture go on a website... I'll try to explain it, if no good pm me I'll draw it up and get my missus to scan it and email it to you or something.


Ok mount two solenoids where ever you see fit (shorter the cable distance the better). On one of them, attach a cable from one of the large terminals to the positive battery terminal (at least 2B&S). Connect the other large terminal (2B&S cable again) to F2 on your winch motor.

With the other solenoid, attach a 2B&S cable from one terminal to F1, and the other goes to the armature (A).

Ok now the two small terminals; on each solenoid earth one of the small terminals to a good earth. Wire the other one (4mm is fine) to either of the two small terminals in the normal solenoid box that has the GREEN wire attached to it. Green is the winch-in positive.

This will work on both the older style (3 wires in remote plug) and the newer (5 wires) warns.

As a bonus doing this cuts the volt loss at full load by about a quarter of a volt; improving power and minimising heat build up to a small degree.

Hope that all makes sense.
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