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defender 6x6

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defender 6x6

Post by stefan »

hi & greets from germany.

i heard about the 6x6 defender, but i can´t find too much information about it. gear box & motor are good, but more i don´t know.
is this a 110 or 130? is it as hardtop or station available? which condition have the cars, are they ready to drive or is normally a lot of work to do after buying one. how expensive are they? where can i find a platform where 6x6 are sold?

a lot of questions, i know. but i hope you can help me to find more information.
greets from germany,

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Post by landy_man »

called perentie...army use originally
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Post by Thonger »

Australian army issue they're pretty thirsty. big and heavy. Rear leaf springs are thick heavy and dont offer much articulation. I'm talking a spring pack thicker than a hand span. They were made for carrying heavy loads. You can get a dual cab, single cab and the SAS have a LRPV variant. Pretty sure they were an australian only thing built out here specifically for us.
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Post by ISUZUROVER »

The Perentie 6x6 Land Rovers were built in Australia Specifically for the Aus. Army. by Land Rover (or Jaguar Rover Australia as they were at the time).

Not sure of the wheelbase (probably about 110" from front to the first rear axle), but the track (and body width) were 12" wider (30cm) than a civillian LR. They ran 4.7:1 diff ratios (rover front and 2 salisburies rear) and as Thonger mentioned had heavy leaf springs for both rear axles. They had a galvanised chassis and ran an ISUZU 4BD1T and LT95 gearbox and T-case. They had a galvanised chassis and were made in a range of body styles. Some were sold for civillian use (or at least demonstrated by LR) but I have never seen any. They are very rare and the army aren't selling any at the moment.
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Post by Thonger »

Some pics
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Post by HSV Rangie »

Rover perentie
Mitsubishi 2010 NT DID Pajero wagon, Factory rear diff lock, Dual batteries, ARB bar, winch, Mt ATZ 4 rib tyres.
1986 RR.
Custom suspension links etc.
HSV 215 engine.
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Post by HSV Rangie »

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Mitsubishi 2010 NT DID Pajero wagon, Factory rear diff lock, Dual batteries, ARB bar, winch, Mt ATZ 4 rib tyres.
1986 RR.
Custom suspension links etc.
HSV 215 engine.
4.3 diffs.
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Post by stefan »

hi @ all,

thanks for your informations & the pics. i know that they were build in/for australia, but sorry i forgot to write that we (my wife & i) visit austrlia this year.
so now i have new questions :lol:
why is the body wider, is this because of the engine or because of more space to load for the army?
& what means "thirsty"? i know it´s a 3.9l engine. a 3.9l engine needs more fuel than a 2.5l, that´s normal i think, or means thirsty more than this? :drinking:
does anyone know why the army decided not to take the "normal" lr engine. what makes this engine so special (for them)?
is it right that normally it runs with fourwheeldrive & allwheel just when the center diff is locked? when it´s right than i think there is no diff between 1st & 2nd rear axle, right? what about the other diffs, do the army have any difflockers, or is this an extra?

sorry for all those questions, but here in germany i could not find any information about the 6x6. hope you can help me with this.
greets from germany,

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Post by turps »

They runs this engine in all there 110's, except for the ones the use for defensive driveing (as they are just funny coloured defenders - they use these on the skid pan). This engine was used as it is built proof, idoit proof. And is extremly easy to mintain in the field. As off-road it also allows for some of the drivers to have lacking skills with driving to get it there with out to much hassle (So no real hassles with lacking torque of idle like the 2.5tdi)
Also the 6x6's that the SAS, Commando's and AFDG's use some of these are usually turbo's (they are testing fitting intercoolers as well). And they are fitting arb lockers to the SAS 6x6's so some report I read ages ago in a mag.
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Post by Thonger »

The 110's and the 6x6 were purchased under a project named perentie, and that stuck. At the time I think the 110 "county" only came with rovers V8. The army wanted to change all it's vehicles to a diesel fleet. (Doesn't burn so bad when it gets the shit shot out of it)
The wider body was built by JRA and pretty sure it was just for load space and weight.
The 3.9's in the sixbies are turboed and fitted with power steering. They carry 2 tanks both standard just one on each side. I only know that a loaded sixbie will use 2 tanks to a standard 110's one. Mind you thats pulling up to 2 tonne of load plus the vehicle.
Yeah it runs 4wd normally and then when you lock the center diff it engages the rear axle. this gets some people stuck as the "center" axle which is normally driven can come off the ground and wheel spin.
Not sure of the physics but there's 2 prop shafts running off the transfer case rearwards. Standard sixbies dont have diff lockers on them at all. Nor the 110's, we tend to trust heavy right feet. The SAS long range patrol vehicles have ARB's on all axles, I'm told. Something to do with deep pockets for special forces.
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Post by Thonger »

Allright, knew I had seen one a while ago and managed to dig it up. It's in perth, and it's pretty :shock:

http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/marketpl ... hkRows=500

Oh and it is priced to clear :roll: When first noticed it about 6 months ago I think they had $130,000 on it
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Post by discokid »

Thats the one for sale in WA. Its an awesome rig!!!!! Was thinking (if I had the cash) it would make a great tow rig for my race car (Def 110)

Im pretty sure its still for sale
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Post by patrolman »

Thonger wrote:Allright, knew I had seen one a while ago and managed to dig it up. It's in perth, and it's pretty :shock:

http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/marketpl ... hkRows=500

Oh and it is priced to clear :roll: When first noticed it about 6 months ago I think they had $130,000 on it


that one has been 4sale for just over a year i think i can remember seeing it.
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