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begining point on a custom winch bar

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begining point on a custom winch bar

Post by Wambat »

hey fellas,

in the not to distant future, i will be starting to do bar work for my 75, as it has no bull bar, i may end up making two, one for now to replace that pissy little folded steel bumper which offers no protection, then one when it comes time to do the winch,

i would like to do the winch bar first, but as i dont know the mounting pattern it is a bit hard to work out,


how do you strengthen the bar where the winch sits and where it attaches to the chassis?? as i, having no idea about the winch, would put a plate of 6mm steel bent in a u shape all the way across my chassis rails, and bolt it with 12mm or 16 mm high tensile bolts in a few places(6 or so).

is that enough, ot not enough??

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Post by thehanko »

HI Mate,
Hope this helps a bit.

My winch cradle has 4 bolts under tension into the cross member, plus 4 bolts under shear bolted up through the cross member and chassis side rails, so 8 all up, all 8.8 high tensile.

The other bar i have which was a modified arb bar had something like 16 bolts all up again all high tensile.

But its worth pointing out a winch only has 4 to attach it to the bar and that is never an issue.
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Post by scuba steve 22 »

heres one i built years ago. a bit basic but strong as
it was on a 60 series
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Post by Wambat »

cheers fellas, so 8.8 hey, here i was thinking about going 10.2 or 12 lol...

so gathering from those pictures you just had your winch bolting to the other side of the bar??
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Post by scuba steve 22 »

Wambat wrote:cheers fellas, so 8.8 hey, here i was thinking about going 10.2 or 12 lol...

so gathering from those pictures you just had your winch bolting to the other side of the bar??
yep ,pretty standard way of doing it
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Post by Weiner »

Mine bolts through 2 bolts each side of the chassis at the body mount or so, and 2 on each side at the front, although I only have 1 of the fronts in each side.

Holds fine with some decent pulls had :armsup:
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Post by lump_a_charcoal »

Sorry to hijack, but does home made bar work need to be engineered?
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Post by scuba steve 22 »

not as far i know, unless u got airbags

i used to build bullbars ute and truck, the only ones engineered were 4 FUPS(front underrun protection systems,i think they were called)
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Post by Wambat »

should hopefullay be giving it a go within a month. will probably just make a bar for the moment then make a winch bar when i go for a winch
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Post by scuba steve 22 »

Wambat wrote:should hopefullay be giving it a go within a month. will probably just make a bar for the moment then make a winch bar when i go for a winch
save your self time and money ,build your winch bar .you dont have to have a winch till u can afford it
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Post by rumpig89 »

scuba steve 22 wrote:
Wambat wrote:should hopefullay be giving it a go within a month. will probably just make a bar for the moment then make a winch bar when i go for a winch
save your self time and money ,build your winch bar .you dont have to have a winch till u can afford it
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Post by scuba steve 22 »

thehanko wrote:HI Mate,
Hope this helps a bit.

My winch cradle has 4 bolts under tension into the cross member, plus 4 bolts under shear bolted up through the cross member and chassis side rails, so 8 all up, all 8.8 high tensile.

The other bar i have which was a modified arb bar had something like 16 bolts all up again all high tensile.

But its worth pointing out a winch only has 4 to attach it to the bar and that is never an issue.
any photos?
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Post by PJ.zook »

You could modify an old winch bar off another vehicle and fit it to yours.

I chopped up an Ironman GQ bar and used its winch cradle. Havent finished yet obviously (needs crushtubes, bars, etc), but you get the idea.

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Post by thehanko »

scuba steve 22 wrote:
thehanko wrote:HI Mate,
Hope this helps a bit.

My winch cradle has 4 bolts under tension into the cross member, plus 4 bolts under shear bolted up through the cross member and chassis side rails, so 8 all up, all 8.8 high tensile.

The other bar i have which was a modified arb bar had something like 16 bolts all up again all high tensile.

But its worth pointing out a winch only has 4 to attach it to the bar and that is never an issue.
any photos?
not showing everything but it might help.

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this shows the std bumper / bar mounts.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk13 ... G_2255.jpg
behind he bar here it bolts from memory into 4 cross member bolts, plus 4 under the cross member, plus 2 into each chassis rail from underneath. struck me as bit of an over kill to be honest.
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Post by Wambat »

yeah, i would have thought two per side on the c channel section, and one per top and bottom would be sufficient, i guess i will see what i can do when i take the dicky little bumper off.

cheers for the help and photos guys.

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Post by thehanko »

Ln 106 hilux. the every man and his dog model.
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