Power and Cross-Over Steer Conversion on the luxie

[Toyo Truck]

Hey Guys,

You read right, thanks to Lachlan, Craig and Luke at Off Road Industries (previously chaos4x4), I now finally have power steering AND crossover steer. And boy is it ever SWEET!!
The guys have done a top notch job, it is so responsive and easy to turn
now its unbeleivable.

I havn't been wheeling yet (maybe this weekend we'll go for a test run)
but I'm sure the 4-Runner pitman arm I've got is going to hit the leaf on
full lock compression on the drivers side.

I've been told this can be remeded with the installation of an 80 Series
pitman arm in place of the 4-Runner one? Do the splines fit etc?
Can I just bolt it up? OR should I get the 4-Runner arm bent up to suit.

Thanks Heaps,
Bart
www.oz4b.com

[4sum4]

You can drop the front hangers and tilt the box back a bit and I was told to fit a 60s pitarm but you`ve got to get the end to suit.havn`t done mine yet but will soon

[M&M Custom Engineerin]

How close is the pitman arm to the chassis?

We can modify your pitman arm so the draglink comes into the pitman arm from the top.

[Toyo Truck]

4 Sum,
I have already dropped the front hangers 2" or so,
and there is no way I can rotate the box, let alone move it,
this thing is so heavily braced on both sides of the chassis with
a fat bits of crush tube right through, that box ain't goin' nowhere!!
Just the way we like it!

Mick, it isn't close at rest, only full compression, but it is bareable
I guess, not really that major.
Would it be cheaper to mod my pitman, or buy an 80S or 60S
pitman??

Cheers,
Bart

[OffRoad Industries]

I told you Bart that if you couldnt wait 2 weeks till you get the taller springs and longer shackles i could put an 80 series pitman arm on it.
The pitman arm on it now is a 4Runner one and has an integral ball joint so the only way of reverse tapering it or even just to put a ball joint taper hole in it is to weld it up which would be useless as it would make the car illegal. The only way i know of ever reverse tapering a hole is to re taper it the other way to a larger ball joint size so you couldnt use the same balljoint.

[cbr]

Hey Guys,

You read right, thanks to Lachlan, Craig and Luke at Off Road Industries (previously chaos4x4), I now finally have power steering AND crossover steer. And boy is it ever SWEET!!
The guys have done a top notch job, it is so responsive and easy to turn
now its unbeleivable.

I havn't been wheeling yet (maybe this weekend we'll go for a test run)
but I'm sure the 4-Runner pitman arm I've got is going to hit the leaf on
full lock compression on the drivers side.

I've been told this can be remeded with the installation of an 80 Series
pitman arm in place of the 4-Runner one? Do the splines fit etc?
Can I just bolt it up? OR should I get the 4-Runner arm bent up to suit.

Thanks Heaps,
Bart
www.oz4b.com

An 80 series arm will fit on an IFS hilux box. I am one on mine.

Chris.

[4sum4]

Hey Guys,

You read right, thanks to Lachlan, Craig and Luke at Off Road Industries (previously chaos4x4), I now finally have power steering AND crossover steer. And boy is it ever SWEET!!
The guys have done a top notch job, it is so responsive and easy to turn
now its unbeleivable.

I havn't been wheeling yet (maybe this weekend we'll go for a test run)
but I'm sure the 4-Runner pitman arm I've got is going to hit the leaf on
full lock compression on the drivers side.

I've been told this can be remeded with the installation of an 80 Series
pitman arm in place of the 4-Runner one? Do the splines fit etc?
Can I just bolt it up? OR should I get the 4-Runner arm bent up to suit.

Thanks Heaps,
Bart
www.oz4b.com

An 80 series arm will fit on an IFS hilux box. I am one on mine.

Chris.

Just wondering why use another pitarm is it cause its shorter

[Toyo Truck]

No worries,
I'll get you guys to wack an 80 arm on it till I can save
up enough for the springs, shackles and shockies.
Hopefully I can get out for a test run on Sunday to see how
it goes with the runner pitman for comparison.

4sum4,
I don't know about shorter, but the guys say its flatter.
In other words the pitman runs closer to the chassis and
away from the springs. I have standard-ish height springs
so there is not alot of room between the chassis and the drivers
leaf spring on full compression drivers side.


Cheers,
Bart
www.oz4b.com

[cbr]

Just wondering why use another pitarm is it cause its shorter

What Toyo Truck said they are alot flatter then a standard IFS arm.

Chris.

[Toyo Truck]

Took the truck down to ORI today for a checkup,
Got a new rear shaft put in and all greased up
picked up some bargain special slightly-used adjustable ranchos
AND the lads ironed out the pitman rubbing issue.

Just drove it home and with the new drive-shaft and ranchos on 1
and the trucks never been better!
I used to cop a beating on Parramatta Rd but now its smooth as!
The steering is straight and it stays that way when you hit all those damn
little potholes and stuff!
AND on the M4 I did 130kph without the slightest vibes

I can't wait to take this thing off-road now!!!
Just gotta try and stay away from the mud with my new hubs!

Cheers,
Bart

P.S. I've got photos of the whole conversion that I'll post up soon.

[NICK]

vans have the shortest flatest arm there are due to there steering setup being different again, i have my axle over 5 inch foward and the box as far foward as possible without cutting the support panel and the drag link and tie sit nice.


NICK

[Wendle]

The only way i know of ever reverse tapering a hole is to re taper it the other way to a larger ball joint size so you couldnt use the same balljoint.

double (ie. internal and external) tapered shim. has to be cr-mo or something else of similar quality as the shim ends up quite thin, but you can then use the same ball joint. I have done this on my truck, once the joint has been torqued up once, the shim will never ever leave the tapered hole.

[Toyo Truck]

Hi Everyone,

I finally burnt the pics to CD so I could post them up (no internet at
home yet). So here they are for your reference/viewing pleasure...

First, the old box went to the junk pile in favour of a 92' V6 4-Runner unit.

[Toyo Truck]

New Power-steering pump and Idler Pulley (Minus Cog)...

[Toyo Truck]

The Fluid Resovior and the old box completely removed...

[Toyo Truck]

Chassis rail ground back and drilled, ready for
re-enforcement by two beefy braceplates and crush tube.

[Toyo Truck]

Dropped front spring hangers and crossover conversion all bolted up and working.

[Toyo Truck]

Pics of the Off Road Ind. double-arm.

[Toyo Truck]

I took the lux for its maiden voyage and let me tell you it is 100%
better off-road. Sooooo much softer and I can't beleive how easy
it is to turn now! Even with both lockers on, I can still pick my line.
It made several really hard steps (that I had trouble on before) easily!

And the amount of extra travel in the front is awesome.
I'd reckon at least 4-5" of extra down-travel. Sweeeeeet.

And the install is top-notch, I SMASHED the hangers on a rock ledge,
no bendage at all, Just a big chunk out of the rock!

All in all - VERY happy chappy!

Cheers,
Bart

[Toyo Truck]

Heres a few more pics of the test run...

[XXXL80]

Heres a few more pics of the test run...

hey bart where are these tracks located?

[Toyo Truck]

They are located at Appin, NSW.

Cheers,
Bart