Work area heaters

Post by **Wooders** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:42 pm

Was trying to work on the junk last night - Dang it was cold.
Looking to warm an area of about 100spm (with high roof) and my little fan heater just isn't coping.
So I've started looking at different heating options. The two main options I am thing of are:
* Jetfire LPG Fan forced
* LPG Radiant
* Commercial Quartz Radiant
* Other ideas/ suggestions??

Post by **mkpatrol** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:54 pm

Patio heater?

Thats what I use, they are cheap now & moe is a corker.

Post by **Jacked** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:30 pm

big campfire in the middle of the shed

Those lpg radiant ones work well in a smaller type shed.
Maybe get 2 or 3?

Would need to be working in there for a few hours on end to justify heating the area up. I find working harder gets you warmer anyway

Post by **300WinMag** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:37 pm

Move to Darwin.

Post by **6.5 rangie** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:10 pm

wood heater

, lpg heaters are very expensive to run, especially those patio heaters.

Post by **Wooders** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:21 pm

Darwin - err no.
Wood heater - not pratical as there's no way to flute it.
Patio heater - Thought about that - but I'd heard they can be expensive to run.

Post by **RED60** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:08 pm

Pot belly stove...... er, but don't spray any

thinners around... Whack a flu in with some heat shielding..... easy.

Post by **Breaker Brother** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:49 pm

RED60 wrote:Pot belly stove...... er, but don't spray any thinners around... Whack a flu in with some heat shielding..... easy.

Yep, I made a pot belly from a Pair of Volvo bus rear brake drums, weighs maybe 100kg, and once going put's out a shitload of heat. I used some 4" truck exhaust for a flue

Post by **RRover85** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:18 pm

if your worried about expense dont get a Jet fire! they work well and heat the shed up quick but they drink the Gas! I go through a 9kg bottle getting maybe 3-4 nights in the shed max!

Post by **Wooders** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:25 am

Ouch - Ok I knew they used a bit of gas.......But I do like the idea.....
Now ideally I'd love to hear any feedback about the Quartz radiant heaters - which was what was recommended to me by one shop....

Pot Belly would be nice - but not going to happen cause as I said fluting it would not be possible.

Post by **Eddy** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:13 pm

Wooders wrote: fluting it would not be possible.

please explain?

Insulation would help a little. Get Kev to pay for it

I am pulling the old insulation out of my house roof and putting it in the shed, and then getting new stuff in the house under the guvvy rebate thing.

Also know of a bloke who has done his shed on the scheme, but details are unclear as to whether he's done it legit or on the dodge.

Post by **Wooders** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:52 pm

Eddy wrote:
Wooders wrote: fluting it would not be possible.
please explain?

Cause I don't own it.
Concrete roof (5m high), brick walls.

Post by **Eddy** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:34 pm

Ahhaaaah! I see.
Does it not have any ventilation at all?

Been trying to find a link to oil burners... no dice.
I used to have one a mate built for me, burnt used engine oil and diesel, not much fumes, should be ok with that height roof.

Come to that, a pot belly should be ok. start it with bbq briquettes, and then good dry wood.

Post by **giantracing** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:20 pm

you want to use a couple of electric strip heaters, i had 2 , 4 foot ones in my last shed 7x9 was warmer in my shed than house, dont buy cheap ones you want the 2000-3000 watt ones like in a pub, bar, public area.

Post by **turbo gu** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:23 pm

Where you are wooders good luck getting that warm!!!! Does the building even get any form of afternoon sun on it!!!! ha ha

I have seen sump purpose built workshop heaters that run on sump oil from memory. There were ads in a trade magazine(workshop manager) or something like that.

Post by **Wooders** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:01 pm

turbo gu wrote:Where you are wooders good luck getting that warm!!!! Does the building even get any form of afternoon sun on it!!!! ha ha

24hrs/day without any sunlight for 9months of the year.....Awesome in summer - but literally freeing my butt off mid-winter.

Post by **Breaker Brother** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:06 pm

Was 4 degrees outside tonight, even with this old girl going it got frikkin cold

I'm going to try and make an LPG fuelled brazier on the weekend, I've been toying with the idea in the back of my mind for some time. should put out a heap of heat and not use to much gas.

I'll post picks up if I get it done.

Post by **Harb** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:32 am

Hi mate, I hate working in the cold too....brrrrrrrrrr
One end of my steel shed is 200sqm and I heat it with a small jetfire gas heater.....

uses about 1 x 9kg bottle a night if I run it flat out, but you dont really need to.......

roof is about 5m in the centre, and it makes the shed noticeably warm when you come in from outside on say a 5 degree night.

this is another mob that sells german made KROLL waste oil heaters...they burn completely clean on sump oil, but are not to cheap to buy.....and then you need a good supply of sump oil...they use about 3 to 5 litres per hour.

http://www.kroll-heaters.com.au/html/s0 ... 5&dsb=1028

if you look around on the net, I think there is some plans that copy the Kroll design..... its fairly simple I think......

regarding the quartz radiant heaters, well , they had a few of them on demo going down at bunnings the other day.
I recon there was 6 of them all grouped together and I wasnt really that impressed given they would have been using about 7 kw of power.....
I think they tend to give you that warm feeling more than anything due to the color of the light they throw out....red orange, bright as.
I will stick to my clean old gas guzzling Jet fire for now !! haha

I do use those Bunnings cheapo patio heaters near my mills and lathes on really cold nights, but I usually start them up earlier in the arvo so the machines can temp stabilize to the warmer temps and maintain accuracy....

Just about to pour another 200sqm slab, and this time I am def going to put polly pipe in the slab and solar heat it during the day.....nice warm concrete to lay on working under the truck on cold winter nights....for free after I build the panels....
dunno why, but I just like tinkering in my shed at night

Harb

Post by **Butt Craic** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:44 am

In our rooms with high ceilings around the ski resort we use a radiant style heater that works by using infared to heat you rather than trying to heat the air around you.

They work great.... not sure how much they are or how good they are for you but I can try to get some details if you're interested.

Post by **ajsr** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:45 am

jetfire with natural gas conversion makes it relly cheap to run and no wood to cut

Post by **bogged** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:17 pm

what do people use these days for warming of teh shedz...?

Post by **Ben_Sierra** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:01 pm

Post by **sudso** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:55 pm

Wooders there's no way of keeping a shed warm without lots and lots of fuel being burnt. Becuase they aren't insulated as soon as the heat source is switched off it'll be cold again in 5 minutes.
5 metres high by 100sqm is a lot of area to warm up.

You'd be better off keeping your own body heat in.
What about thermal underwear?

Post by **mhgill** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:59 am

How about you work harder?

Post by **KiwiBacon** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:29 pm

You can't heat a shed unless it's been built to be heated. That means closed off and insulated.

Radiant heaters where you work are the only answer. When it's freezing inside I find a 500w light makes an excellent undercar worklamp. Plenty of light and heat.

Post by **Auto-Craft** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:54 pm

work harder !

Post by **sudso** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:21 am

mhgill wrote:How about you work harder?

Or sit in the office with the heater on

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