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Repairable Write-off???

Post by dano80 »

Howdy All,

I've gotten wind of a trayback ute that has been rear-ended, sitting waiting to be auctioned.

My question is, how picky are DOT when it comes to being re-registered?

The vehicle has had the trayback mounts torn off the chassis, so obviously these would have to be replaced/rewelded. And also would need a bit of panel beating to the back of the cab. I would have to also build a tray, but this would be a peice of piss, and something I was going to do anyway.

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Post by Utemad »

My Dad bought a Repairable Write Off and I looked into how to reregister it for him.

This is Qld by the way.

As far as the car's mechanicals and panels etc go all it has to do is pass a normal RWC.
The DOT only check it out to make sure it isn't stolen or dodgy in that regard. However they sting you about $500 and you have to actually leave the car with them for the day to do this.
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Post by hiluxmad »

some states may require an engineers if you are welding to chassis but if you make it look as factory as possible you can get away without it.
depends on the viv inspector tho.
what is the ute and what state is this in
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Post by dano80 »

It's in Qld, and it's a full size ute, don't want to say too much, as it might be detrimental to purchasing it......as in maybe someone else will get it!!

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Post by Utemad »

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home/Re ... nspections
Written-off vehicle inspections

These are comprehensive vehicle identity checks which apply to all vehicles classified as repairable write-offs and are required before a repairable written-off vehicle can be re-registered.

They are part of the national theft reduction initiative and are required to ensure that the identity of repaired written-off vehicles is legimitate. This is to combat the illegal use of vehicle identifiers and to stop the re-birthing of stolen vehicles.
What is the process to get a written-off vehicle inspection?

Each inspection must be booked at least 24 hours in advance. When booking an inspection, the vehicle's details, including the vehicle identification number (VIN) or chassis number, make, model, colour and registration number must be provided.

On the day of the appointment, the owner will need to personally present the vehicle at the inspection site. If this is not possible, the person presenting the vehicle will have to prove their identity by showing an acceptable form of identification, such as a Queensland driver licence.

The representative of an organisation must show a letter of authority to conduct business on behalf of the organisation, in addition to their own personal identification.
What documents are required?

On the day of the inspection you will be required to provide:

* appropriate evidence of identity
* a safety certificate
* proof of purchase or ownership
* receipts for parts or repairs.

Failure to provide some documentation could result in delays during the vehicle inspection.
How long will the inspection take?

You must drop the vehicle off to the inspection site on the morning of the appointment — you are not allowed to be present during the inspection process. The inspection, on average, takes one day. The examiner will contact you when the vehicle is available for collection. If more time is required to complete the inspection, you may have to leave the vehicle at the inspection site for longer.
What is the difference between a safety inspection and a written-off vehicle inspection?

A safety inspection confirms the vehicle is roadworthy — this is decided by specific test criteria to measure roadworthiness.

The written-off vehicle inspection is a thorough and detailed analysis of the identity and history of the vehicle to ensure its identity is legitimate. The inspection includes an analysis of the vehicle's history and repair documents. If there is any doubt or inconsistencies with the vehicle's identity, history or documentation, the vehicles are referred to the Queensland Police Service for further inspection. The Queensland Police Service may undertake a detailed forensic inspection on the vehicle to confirm its legitimate identity.
How much does the inspection cost?

Queensland Inspection Services fees are A$450 for cars and, A$350 for motorbikes and trailers.

These fees are comparable to equivalent inspections in other states with flat fees of A$470 in Victoria, A$416 in the Australian Capital Territory and A$406 for a full inspection in New South Wales.

Note: in New South Wales some vehicles, in areas where full inspections are not available, can be re-registered on a lower level identify check. This is called a 'blue slip' and is not accepted by other states in place of a written-off vehicle inspection. Vehicles that have been issued a 'blue slip' are required to undergo a full written-off vehicle inspection before they can be registered in Queensland or other states.

The written-off vehicle inspection service is provided by Queensland Inspection Services who are the approved contractor to Queensland Transport to provide these inspections across Queensland. The fee was determined as part of the contract. Queensland Transport followed a formal and open procurement process through the calling of public tenders. Queensland Inspection Services were successful in being awarded this contract following detailed assessment of tenders received. This included the capacity of the tendered to provide the inspection service across Queensland.

The written-off vehicle inspection process requires a considerable investment in staff, facilities, equipment and insurances. Queensland Inspection Services is required to mitigate its risks in dealing with organised and professional vehicle theft activities. In addition to the costs of providing the service across Queensland, the inspection price incorporates a component of this risk borne by Queensland Inspection Services.
Where can I get a written-off vehicle inspection?

Queensland Inspection Services provide written-off vehicle inspections. They have sites in Brisbane, Rockhampton, Toowoomba, Townsville, Bundaberg, Cairns, Sunshine Coast and on the Gold Coast. To gain more information or to make a booking, contact Queensland Inspection Services on 1300 722 411.
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Post by dano80 »

Thats great, thanks Utemad.

That should clear up most of my issues.

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Post by v8zuki »

had a hail damaged hyundai done all i did was fit new lights
and acouple of windows didnt bother about the hail damage
it was pretty bad and all they cared about was the tailight i bought off ebay didnt care about the damage at all had a rwc they just checked all
parts wernt stolen
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Post by KUSTOMV840 »

My last 3 utes have been Repairable Write Offs. Just keep all your recipts for parts and present them when you get your roadworthy/blueslip/inspection done. This has always worked for me no problem.

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Post by thehanko »

v8zuki wrote:had a hail damaged hyundai done all i did was fit new lights
and acouple of windows didnt bother about the hail damage
it was pretty bad and all they cared about was the tailight i bought off ebay didnt care about the damage at all had a rwc they just checked all
parts wernt stolen
they dont inspect damege repair unless they suspect stolen parts
x2 i have done this too but in nsw.

One thing to note is that the style of damage is often listed on the write off with the rta/dot. so it might just say significant rear end damage, or it might say dmaged body mounts etc.

if it is the first then you can fix the mounts and carry on your merry way, if its the later then they will probably want engineer to inspect the welds etc.

But if its at the right proce it sounds like a real goer.

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Post by dano80 »

Yeah thanks, will have to keep an eye on what is mentioned.

My mate is bidding on it for me so we'll see what it comes in at.....

Cheers, Dano.
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Post by craz3d »

Does anyone know if theres any difference for financial write offs? Like financial ones only that could perhaps have minor hail damage or something but it's been decided that it's not worth fixing?

Do these have to undergo the same procedures even if the damage is extremely minimal?
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Post by NICK »

dano80 wrote:Yeah thanks, will have to keep an eye on what is mentioned.

My mate is bidding on it for me so we'll see what it comes in at.....

Cheers, Dano.

dont forget the hammer price isnt the price you are going to pay and depending on the price of the ute it could cost you several thousand more.

If you do buy it, call fowles to see how long the wait is for the inspection, with the number of water damaged cars that have been through in the last 3 weeks i think it would be around 4 weeks, so sometimes it pays to book before the car is repaired. You will need to get a road worthy to book.


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Post by Utemad »

craz3d wrote:Does anyone know if theres any difference for financial write offs? Like financial ones only that could perhaps have minor hail damage or something but it's been decided that it's not worth fixing?

Do these have to undergo the same procedures even if the damage is extremely minimal?
That is what a repairable write off is. Something the insurance company has said can be repaired but is uneconomical to do so.
Lots of the vehicles that go through the damaged auctions have only minor cosmetic damage. Such as the $100 Excels.
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Post by dirtyGQ »

my patrol had $14,000 worth of damage a few years ago and they were going to fix it and i offered them $2000 discount if i could fix it myself and they wrote me a cheque and they re insured the car after i spent $1500 fixing it myself ...
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Post by NICK »

dirtyGQ wrote:my patrol had $14,000 worth of damage a few years ago and they were going to fix it and i offered them $2000 discount if i could fix it myself and they wrote me a cheque and they re insured the car after i spent $1500 fixing it myself ...

there are some items that insurance wont touch second hand, lets use a GU front diff as an example that has broken a mag and bent the housing, about 2 years ago they were close to 2 grand for a housing from nissan. Buy the time the panel shop adds there 20% to parts, then the mechanical hourly rate to fit, wheel alginment replace mag and cover warranty it would be close to 5 grand buy the time the wheel was purchased and the job completed, you could carry out the same repairs yourself about 1500 using second hand parts the the insurance company wont.

generally a financial write off is one were the value of the repair reaches about 70% of the vehicles value, an economical write of is one where the repairs, or on going cost to the insurance company is worth more than the car. took me awhile to work out the difference, and yes there is one.


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Post by dano80 »

NICK wrote:
dano80 wrote:Yeah thanks, will have to keep an eye on what is mentioned.

My mate is bidding on it for me so we'll see what it comes in at.....

Cheers, Dano.

dont forget the hammer price isnt the price you are going to pay and depending on the price of the ute it could cost you several thousand more.

If you do buy it, call fowles to see how long the wait is for the inspection, with the number of water damaged cars that have been through in the last 3 weeks i think it would be around 4 weeks, so sometimes it pays to book before the car is repaired. You will need to get a road worthy to book.


NICK
Thanks Nick, I'm in no hurry to get it fixed, will prolly take me a few months, as I've already got a truck for work. So it will be done at my leisure.

Cheers, Dano
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