New Mongrel Sizes

[MKPatrolGuy]

From their website, I wonder if they will be Radial or Bias...

http://www.motorway-tyres.com.au/p428.htm


Size Release Information

33 x 12.5 R 15 proposed release February 2003

305 / 70 R 16 proposed release April 2003

35 x 12.5 R 15 proposed release April 2003

315 / 75 R 16 proposed release May 2003

[bj on roids]

will these be a radial tyre?

how strong are the sidewalls?

[Rut Slut]

They will be a radial. The sidewall will be as strong as the original carcass, so I would expect to be around 2 or 3 plies at the most.

[JK]

Nice one. It will be interesting to see what the prices work out to be. Should be good cheap play-rubber. 315 = 12" wide, 1.5" wider than the centipede

[bj on roids]

thanks dude i was thinking that :( will they reform a swamper?

[spazbot]

do we have any idea on prices??

[JK]

Nope, but they would have to be affordable otherwise they defeat the purpose of remade tyres...

[Wooders]

But would they be cheap if you ripp the sidewall off first outing....I tend to think those are mostly looks because as Mrloosewoman said, their only as strong as the carcass they're built on - which would probably be some crappy Firestone

[ToNkA]

These are not retreads though are they? I thought they were re molds or something that made them stronger?

[Damo]

They're remoulded but i dont think that's going to make the sidewalls noticeably stronger.

My guess is if you try running them in the rocks under your 2 ton cruiser you're going to have a few dramas.

Best off leaving these to us Zook guys

[spice]

i know the 31's were 190 a tyre so how much more would 33's be?

[80diesel4play]

I happen to have met the guy who actually runs the mould onto the carcass' all day as a job. They've also been discusing a 37" version for june 03 release - depending on the demand - so there is hope - they have a good speed rating and he was saying that they have a different way of making sure they don't delaminate even at low psi.

I'm trying to get a deal direct from him or even a "sponsoirs set"....lol!!

[Rut Slut]

I happen to have met the guy who actually runs the mould onto the carcass' all day as a job. They've also been discusing a 37" version for june 03 release - depending on the demand - so there is hope - they have a good speed rating and he was saying that they have a different way of making sure they don't delaminate even at low psi.

I'm trying to get a deal direct from him or even a "sponsoirs set"....lol!!

Wouldn't have thought they would be able to get hold of enough 37" carcasses that were in good enough condition.

[Wendle]

hhhmmm...they were calling those first ones they made 32's even though they were using 31" carcasses, so maybe they have been stashing away 36's for a while??

[N*A*M]

37s? Awesome.

[Damo]

I just cant see where they would be able to get a decent volume of carcasses to produce 37s. Heck, even getting enough 33s and 35s would have to be borderline to make it a commercial proposition. In which case i'd expect the 33s and 35s to be comparatively more expensive than the 31s.

It will be interesting to see what they come up with and how much they'll cost.

[srowlandson]

I would rather a 50% tread Q78 Swamper or REAL centipede for $250 (which are around all the time) than pay $230-250 for these peices of S#$t


The Tread is no where near as deep as a new centipedes and they are prone to falling apart, and wearing faster.

You get what you pay for...

New Swampers twice the price but last 3 times as long, which would you think is 'cheaper'?

Just My Opinion....


Steve

[Damo]

I have heard very little about how these are performing.

What experience has lead you to believe that they are "prone to falling apart"?

[Punchy]

I would rather a 50% tread Q78 Swamper or REAL centipede for $250 (which are around all the time) than pay $230-250 for these peices of S#$t


The Tread is no where near as deep as a new centipedes and they are prone to falling apart, and wearing faster.

You get what you pay for...

Yeah i tend to agree here as well
A remoulded tyre is maybe all well and good on a roadcar with constant tyre pressure and less deforming of the tyre.. AS old mate says..delamination at low air pressure may be a concern to all.
Having had experience with truck tyres of a few sorts and brands, one thing always stood true.. Nothing beats a new radial tyre....nothing generally lasts as long either.. .
There was always a sense of false exconomy with retreaded tires for trucks and cars. You purchase a nice cheap tyre that "should" last the distance. But all that ends up happening is delamination and as everybody has seen...the remains of tyre treads on the sides of the roads. This in turn means its back to the tyre shop for another retread before you know it. "NEW tyres lasted 2-3 three times longer than a retreaded tyre and would consume half the cost of 3 retreaded tyres.

So the initial outlay is more expensive, but the final result is better outlasting. Having said that, i wouldn't mind trying a set of cheap 35' mungrels to try out in the dirt for a performance evaluation, and not for road tyre useage.
Say
If a mongrel 35' sells for 250
and a BF 35 is 300..
or a 35 simex is 400ish
I know where my moneys going

[Damo]

There is a difference between remoulds and retreads.

If these things were retreads then I would be a bit leery about their longevity.