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Starter Motor troubles
Starter Motor troubles
having troubles with starter motors on gu 4.2. original one shat itself then went on to put a gq one on, it died out aswell now on my third one another gq one, and its starting to fuck up.. where am i going wrong, the gq ones fit on fine but is there any difference between the 2, or wat could be going wrong.
cheers
cheers
02 GU 4.2 intercooled Turby dies ute, 5" efs, 35"Km2's, Xgt's, bit of barwork
It may be that the starters you get are sad to begin with, really the only problem i've seen them have is sticking brushes. There is no need to go out buying new starters they are very easy to rebuild. My last cost me $50 in parts Hitachi S13-118A is the starter part number any electrical supplier like a.m.e or ingrams get parts very easily.
cheers for all the replies ill get to checking it all out on the w/e. but yeah mostly happens when its cold. but has just recently decided to kick over just!! all the time now, so yeah its like theres not enough power getting to it.
02 GU 4.2 intercooled Turby dies ute, 5" efs, 35"Km2's, Xgt's, bit of barwork
Check your battery terminals too! If i had a dollar for every dodgy connection i've seen.....J.Dixon80 wrote:cheers for all the replies ill get to checking it all out on the w/e. but yeah mostly happens when its cold. but has just recently decided to kick over just!! all the time now, so yeah its like theres not enough power getting to it.
If you have the pressed steel terminal clamps - chuck them and get some good quality, solid units.
so got everything tested today at the mechanics, it seems that the battery is feeding enough power to the starter through the power cable and it had a good earth. so we were pretty sure that the brushes are sticking, does anyone know someone who could fix this up for me fairly cheap?
02 GU 4.2 intercooled Turby dies ute, 5" efs, 35"Km2's, Xgt's, bit of barwork
mate you should be able to pull the end cap off and clean the brushes , it is pretty easy , aslong as thats all thats wrong with itJ.Dixon80 wrote:so got everything tested today at the mechanics, it seems that the battery is feeding enough power to the starter through the power cable and it had a good earth. so we were pretty sure that the brushes are sticking, does anyone know someone who could fix this up for me fairly cheap?
seeings as this thread is live, and save me making a new one.
can i ask, does anyone have any experience with a TD42 starter, in a GQ, when you go to start it, the starter spins over at full RPM, but doesnt throw in, can hold it on the key and it wont throw in, 5 or more seconds, but if you off the key, in less than a second it will throw in, and you feel a solid clunk as it meshes with the gears.
anyone know whats going on here? my auto sparky mate reckons it could be the clutch pack, but doesnt seem to make sense to me, as it doesnt make an effort then slip the clutch, it just doesnt throw in at all.
what would cause this, and why would it do it when you stop the key?
oh, once it clunks that first time. it will start fine, and its an intermittant thing, was doing it almost daily for a while, hasnt done it in about a week now, id actually forgotten til i saw this thread, but i know its gonna be my undoing one day, so i thought i should have an answer ready...
cheers, andy
can i ask, does anyone have any experience with a TD42 starter, in a GQ, when you go to start it, the starter spins over at full RPM, but doesnt throw in, can hold it on the key and it wont throw in, 5 or more seconds, but if you off the key, in less than a second it will throw in, and you feel a solid clunk as it meshes with the gears.
anyone know whats going on here? my auto sparky mate reckons it could be the clutch pack, but doesnt seem to make sense to me, as it doesnt make an effort then slip the clutch, it just doesnt throw in at all.
what would cause this, and why would it do it when you stop the key?
oh, once it clunks that first time. it will start fine, and its an intermittant thing, was doing it almost daily for a while, hasnt done it in about a week now, id actually forgotten til i saw this thread, but i know its gonna be my undoing one day, so i thought i should have an answer ready...
cheers, andy
97 GQ patrol coilcab. TD42, safari turbo kit with fiddled turbo, D-GAS kit. dyno results to come...
4inch lift, king springs, efs and procomp shocks
315/70R16 cooper ST's
found fuel economy...
4inch lift, king springs, efs and procomp shocks
315/70R16 cooper ST's
found fuel economy...
The only "clutch" as such in a starter is the one-way type setup on the drive pinion.love ke70 wrote:seeings as this thread is live, and save me making a new one.
can i ask, does anyone have any experience with a TD42 starter, in a GQ, when you go to start it, the starter spins over at full RPM, but doesnt throw in, can hold it on the key and it wont throw in, 5 or more seconds, but if you off the key, in less than a second it will throw in, and you feel a solid clunk as it meshes with the gears.
anyone know whats going on here? my auto sparky mate reckons it could be the clutch pack, but doesnt seem to make sense to me, as it doesnt make an effort then slip the clutch, it just doesnt throw in at all.
what would cause this, and why would it do it when you stop the key?
oh, once it clunks that first time. it will start fine, and its an intermittant thing, was doing it almost daily for a while, hasnt done it in about a week now, id actually forgotten til i saw this thread, but i know its gonna be my undoing one day, so i thought i should have an answer ready...
cheers, andy
A starter that doesn't engage properly is usually due to the pinion teeth being damaged and rounded, or the throw action can be not working properly.
The other (more scary) issue can be your ring gear. A 6 cylinder engine will always stop in one of three places in regards to crankshaft position, and over time a combination of repeated striking from the starter pinion and damaged/rounded/daggy pinion teeth can chew away at the ring gear on your flywheel.
To check all this, pull your starter motor out and poke a torch onto the hole to inspect the flywheel ring gear - it will be pretty obvious if its worn. The starter motor pinion gear should be reasonable clean and smooth - but note that the leading edge of the teeth need to have an offset bezel (in order to mesh properly) like this:
If your not sure, post some pics!
I got a rebuilt starter motor for $375 exchange from the Auto Elec shop along Aerodrome Rd. I did a full ring around the coast when mine shat itself on Boxing Day and they were the cheapest by far. Hasn't missed a beat since I replaced it...J.Dixon80 wrote:so got everything tested today at the mechanics, it seems that the battery is feeding enough power to the starter through the power cable and it had a good earth. so we were pretty sure that the brushes are sticking, does anyone know someone who could fix this up for me fairly cheap?
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