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What welder for building barwork??
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What welder for building barwork??
Im keen at having a crack at building a custom front bar, sliders and the other fruit and just wondering what style of welder is going to suit best. How much should i spend etc...
Cheers
Cheers
i bought a mars 180 welder almost 2 years ago now. I run it gasless and i have built quite a few thing with and its really handy. the hand piece is based off a lincoln 180 so parts are easy to get. I have had some teething problems with it but once you know what works and what doesn't then your laughing. if your only a hobby welder it does everything i need for the $400 i spent on it. I got it it from trade tools direct which, i think they have a shop on the sunny coast.
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Re: What welder for building barwork??
I'm looking at selling my unimig 240 for $900.jorgo wrote:Im keen at having a crack at building a custom front bar, sliders and the other fruit and just wondering what style of welder is going to suit best. How much should i spend etc...
Cheers
Its time to replace it as its been depreciated at work.
search and you will see my thoughts in the past on this machine (not talking it up cause I'm selling it)- they are awesome.
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thanks for the quick replies fellas, i was more looking at the 400-500 dollar market. i have zero welding experience haha but i know a few people in the trade and obviously i wasnt going to jump straight into the barwork side of things but to get started i need a welder. I dont see the point in buying anything to special more just something to get me started but to will be able to weld tube well enough when i want to have a crack at the barwork. Will 400-500 bucks be enough?
For your experience and quality of welds in mind a mig welder is the way to go, stick welders are cheap but are alot harder to use if you don't know how to use them properly...
You can get a 2nd hand one for around 500-600 but will have to look around and also you have to pay for the gas and bottle rental which adds up if you are not planning on using it often.
If it is only a hobbie thing and you are trying to save some money, buy a good caddy (stick welder) and find some one to teach you or go to tafe and learn it...
P.S. welding is learnt from practice, not really some one standing over your shoulder and telling you what to do. Thats why tafe is good, does not cost much but you can practise alot and burn alot of steel and work out what works and what doesnt. The last thing you want to do is make some thing and have the welds fail and some one gets hurt.
Brad
You can get a 2nd hand one for around 500-600 but will have to look around and also you have to pay for the gas and bottle rental which adds up if you are not planning on using it often.
If it is only a hobbie thing and you are trying to save some money, buy a good caddy (stick welder) and find some one to teach you or go to tafe and learn it...
P.S. welding is learnt from practice, not really some one standing over your shoulder and telling you what to do. Thats why tafe is good, does not cost much but you can practise alot and burn alot of steel and work out what works and what doesnt. The last thing you want to do is make some thing and have the welds fail and some one gets hurt.
Brad
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About 99% of barwork is in the correct notching , the pipe should almost touch each other right arround the join so a stick welder will work okay , it will allow more penetration than one of these cheaper mig welders , and once you get the hang of the stick you will be able to weld on all angles , practice , practice , practice , and you will need a notcher as well , Cheers Paul.
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I disagree with peoples comments thqat a mig wender is better for people who cant weld. True a mig will allow people who cant weld to get a nice looking weld easier, but will also let people who cant weld to get a nice looking weld with no penatration, especially with a cheap baby mig. If you have a small budget get the best arc you can imo
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ive got a unimig panther 172. i think it was $900bucks. im not realy a fan of mig welding but i did use it weld on my trac bar mounts on my diff only because i couldnt get a MMA electrode in there.
all my bar work is TIG welded only because i like to tig welded and i want to get good at it
all my bar work is TIG welded only because i like to tig welded and i want to get good at it
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HI mate,
I got a cig inverter stick welder. Ultra happy with it! its the size of a 6 pack for 170amp. cost $500
Have built an 8m long trailer with it, numerous other racks including the rear bar for my ute etc.
the only thing with stick welders which i regret is if you ever plan to do panel work - ie cutting out rust etc the stick isnt really suitable.
but for bar work its nice thick metal and perfect for a stick.
I spoke to a number of welders (tradies) prior to buying and they all said that this would be the easiest way for me to go with the most effective welds.
And i gotta say to pull the welder out for that little job is so easy when its so light and small.
I got a cig inverter stick welder. Ultra happy with it! its the size of a 6 pack for 170amp. cost $500
Have built an 8m long trailer with it, numerous other racks including the rear bar for my ute etc.
the only thing with stick welders which i regret is if you ever plan to do panel work - ie cutting out rust etc the stick isnt really suitable.
but for bar work its nice thick metal and perfect for a stick.
I spoke to a number of welders (tradies) prior to buying and they all said that this would be the easiest way for me to go with the most effective welds.
And i gotta say to pull the welder out for that little job is so easy when its so light and small.
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thehanko wrote:
And i gotta say to pull the welder out for that little job is so easy when its so light and small.
yup thats also why i rather use MMA.
with mig its tooo much to lug out the front if i want to weld on my car
91 SWB Sierra. 16v 1.6efi, extractors, 6.1gears, SPOA, 32 BF muddys and 2inch bodylift
x2 i got one to and its an awsome little unitthehanko wrote:HI mate,
I got a cig inverter stick welder. Ultra happy with it! its the size of a 6 pack for 170amp. cost $500
Have built an 8m long trailer with it, numerous other racks including the rear bar for my ute etc.
the only thing with stick welders which i regret is if you ever plan to do panel work - ie cutting out rust etc the stick isnt really suitable.
but for bar work its nice thick metal and perfect for a stick.
I spoke to a number of welders (tradies) prior to buying and they all said that this would be the easiest way for me to go with the most effective welds.
And i gotta say to pull the welder out for that little job is so easy when its so light and small.
The cheap mig welders are rubbish, i'd personally buy a cheap inverter stick welder if your not looking at spending the money on a decent mig or a ac/dc tig.
Your local tafe will hold courses that aren't that expensive and you can learn a lot from it. I know the boc store in Cairns will let you test run machines in there store also so they all might.
Good luck.
Neil.
Your local tafe will hold courses that aren't that expensive and you can learn a lot from it. I know the boc store in Cairns will let you test run machines in there store also so they all might.
Good luck.
Neil.
Most reputable stores will let you try the machines,
Welding in my view is 1/3 theory understanding whats happening, process ect ect 2/3 experiance and having someone tell you what your doing wrong, go and get a mate who can weld IE does it for a living or go to tafe they can look at a weld and workout whats wrong with it, otherwise you may pick up bad habits
Welding in my view is 1/3 theory understanding whats happening, process ect ect 2/3 experiance and having someone tell you what your doing wrong, go and get a mate who can weld IE does it for a living or go to tafe they can look at a weld and workout whats wrong with it, otherwise you may pick up bad habits
It's simple: questions are inherently good. Your questions... not so much
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my old man taught people to weld for 20 years, and when he used my inverter he was blown away how good it was compared to old sticks, they are so much smoother and easier to use.KYSI wrote:x2 i got one to and its an awsome little unitthehanko wrote:HI mate,
I got a cig inverter stick welder. Ultra happy with it! its the size of a 6 pack for 170amp. cost $500
Have built an 8m long trailer with it, numerous other racks including the rear bar for my ute etc.
the only thing with stick welders which i regret is if you ever plan to do panel work - ie cutting out rust etc the stick isnt really suitable.
but for bar work its nice thick metal and perfect for a stick.
I spoke to a number of welders (tradies) prior to buying and they all said that this would be the easiest way for me to go with the most effective welds.
And i gotta say to pull the welder out for that little job is so easy when its so light and small.
for bar work and a budget they are awsome.
for panel work they are shit.
*there's a rock, drive over it :) there's a bigger rock, drive over it :twisted: there's an even bigger rock, oops broke it :oops: Upgrade broken bit :bad-words:
Goto *
Goto *
Quoted for Truthshakes wrote: an ugly arc weld is normally a bad weld
a good looking arc weld is normally a good weld
a good looking mig weld can easily still be a bad weld if you dont know what your doing
It's simple: questions are inherently good. Your questions... not so much
2003 GUIII turbo intercooled 4.2 DX
2003 GUIII turbo intercooled 4.2 DX
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