triton wont start

[freddircks]

hi, i own a 89 triton 2.6 petrol and a freind tried to show me a "trick" and he attached a positive wire from the battery to the coil and than the starter and tried to start it, with no sucess he left it alone and went home. aftre he left i tried to move it and it wont start. i have a suspition he might of put the positive wire to the negitive side of the coil, would this cause any damage to the coil,
any help would be greatly apreciated,
thanks,

[chimpboy]

It wouldn't damage the coil but I think it could possibly damage wiring between the coil and the distributor if you were unlucky.

Or he could have accidentally knocked a wire and disconnected something, maybe check if anything is loose.

He should practise his tricks on his own bloody car I reckon!

[freddircks]

ive used a test light on the wires to the dizzy and coil, all show positive current when the key is switched to "on" but i still cant get spark no matter what i do, there are two wires going between the dizzy and the coil and both have live current with ignition on, should they both be live?

[chimpboy]

Unfortunately I don't know Tritons. Maybe -Scott- will see this thread, tritons are probably wired the same as Pajeros.

Cars I have worked on have a single wire going from the dizzy to the coil, which is a switched negative wire. It sends a negative (ground) pulse to the coil for each spark. Your Triton's setup is clearly different since it has two wires, so I'd only be guessing on what's what.

[freddircks]

it seems strange to me that both the wires have positive current through them, thanks for the help chimpboy, i hope i can get this fixed and its easy and quick

[chimpboy]

Might be an idea to post the query in the Mitsubishi section.

[freddircks]

ok thanks very much

[-Scott-]

hi, i own a 89 triton 2.6 petrol and a freind tried to show me a "trick" and he attached a positive wire from the battery to the coil and than the starter and tried to start it, with no sucess he left it alone and went home. aftre he left i tried to move it and it wont start. i have a suspition he might of put the positive wire to the negitive side of the coil, would this cause any damage to the coil,
any help would be greatly apreciated,
thanks,

I suspect your mate owes you a new ignition module (in your distributor).

If you have two wires between dizzy and coil you probably have an electronic ignition module. This module alternately connects the coil to -ve to ground (to create current flow in the coil) and then break the connection (to stop the current flow, which is what makes the coil generate a spark).

If your mate had connected battery +ve to coil +ve to starter motor solenoid terminal, he would've basically jump-started your engine.

I can only guess your mate connected battery +ve to coil -ve. This would mean that the ignition module tried to connect battery +ve to ground, which means it tried to short out the battery. Surprisingly enough, this is not something it's designed to do - in short, this would fark it good.

Get an auto-sparky to replace your distributor and send the bill to your "mate".

[freddircks]

thanks very much for your help, ill track down a new dizzy tomorrow and see how i go, thanks again for the help

[Pajero 4D56]

Or some bad news.....some Coils on Pajeroes 2.6 (4G54) use Ballast Resistor Coils (BRC) ..... they are not operate at 12V but at 6V so putting a direct 12V to them will direct burnt them out ......

Try to find a friend who willing to borrow the coil for you "Make sure it's the same type" and fit it into your car,try to turn it over and see how it go,if it starts then a new coil are need to be in order

[-Scott-]

Or some bad news.....some Coils on Pajeroes 2.6 (4G54) use Ballast Resistor Coils (BRC) ..... they are not operate at 12V but at 6V so putting a direct 12V to them will direct burnt them out ......

Possibly, but not necessarily. Back when I was young and foolish (and knew everything ) I replaced the ignition components on my car. A year or two later, while working under the bonnet on something, I noticed that my coil was REALLY hot. So I did a little research, and discovered that a Bosch GT40R coil was designed to work with a ballast resistor - which I didn't have.

So some resistor style coils can work for a long time at 12V without failing - but that's no guarantee that yours will.

[chimpboy]

So some resistor style coils can work for a long time at 12V without failing - but that's no guarantee that yours will.

This is true, they are after all designed to run for brief periods at 10V or so when the starter is cranking. One way or another I have seen a few 6V coils last years on 12V.