just got busted qld transport

Post by **big lux** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:32 pm

am filling out the motor vehicle modd application. would like to know wat mods people have had passed going through this stupid system. i have a gq wagon with superiour adjustable arms all round bbm front radius arms tough dog return to center steering dampener and king spring 4 inch lifted coils and 35x12.5 maxxis big horns on 15x8 inch rims do u think i will be get this passed or should apply for less. i have 33icnh coppers in da shed if they will help me.

Post by **grimbo** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:33 pm

lift will have to go, 35 & 33s will have to go as well

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:45 pm

Talk to Ryano about the tyres. I believe he said he helped a customer go through the legal side of getting a defect notice for 33's on a patrol overturned. So you may be OK with the 33's.

35's no chance. Lift is also out unless it is 2" body + 2" spring. Contact the manufacturers of the other bits.

Post by **SteelArt** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:10 pm

big lux wrote:am filling out the motor vehicle modd application. would like to know wat mods people have had passed going through this stupid system. i have a gq wagon with superiour adjustable arms all round bbm front radius arms tough dog return to center steering dampener and king spring 4 inch lifted coils and 35x12.5 maxxis big horns on 15x8 inch rims do u think i will be get this passed or should apply for less. i have 33icnh coppers in da shed if they will help me.

You can have 33's not 35's, you can have 2" lift not 4, that is it.

To run adjustable arms you will need to get an Engineers report and blue plate fitted by an approved person (not QLD Tpt through Modification Application)

To run BBM front Radius Armys you will need to get an Engineers report and blue plate fitted by an approved person (not QLD Tpt through Modification Application)

In QLD you can no longer get 35's approved or anything bigger than a 2" suspension lift.

Post by **chimpboy** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:33 pm

33s should be passable on a GQ afaik. 35s no way, as others have said.

It is all a bit stupid and excessive but what can you do?

Post by **big lux** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:40 pm

this is realy anoying me i had my last truck a patrol ute with 6inch coils 2 inch body and 37s and shitloads of bar work fully engineered in nsw a cert costs you alot bt alot easyr in nsw. im startn to hing i shuld change my licence back to nsw get it regod nd enginerred in nsw nd bring it back up here

Post by **grimbo** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:53 pm

can't do that either

Post by **hiy6o** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:15 pm

can't drive em in queensland even on NSW rego pretty stupid. I had the same argument with an inspector not long ago . I asked when they would make all the rules line up and his reply was when they change their laws to meet ours , looks like it may happen that way considering the changes down south .

Post by **pootrol** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:47 pm

for a patrol i think its 32.4" is the max or something like that so they can turn you away on 33s

Post by **bj on roids** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:51 pm

they want everyone to drive stock standard toyota prius', so sell it and buy that.

Post by **S.CoXy** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:41 pm

This is not good to know I am currently building up a hilux have have 33 on it and leaf lift and an starting to think it might a mission... Might get rego in vic at the olds place?!?!?

Post by **bogged** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:45 pm

S.CoXy wrote:This is not good to know I am currently building up a hilux have have 33 on it and leaf lift and an starting to think it might a mission... Might get rego in vic at the olds place?!?!?

before you go anywhere, speak wiht qld roads on what will be legal.. plenty of threads on people who have built shit that they cannot register.

Post by **S.CoXy** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:51 pm

Yeah might have to look at the rule book.. I am from VIC and down there we just get in engineered and its all good, or just don't worry about it and as long as it looks legal no one seems to get busted!! Mate even claimed insurance with 6" lift 36 mudy and a turbo hanging off his patrol NO Questions asked when the inspectio look at it!!

Post by **grimbo** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:01 pm

31s are illegal on a Hilux so you have no hope of 33s

Post by **Mr DJ** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:09 pm

grimbo wrote:31s are illegal on a Hilux so you have no hope of 33s

Interesting ..... the tyre placard on my Hilux Surf says 31x10.5x15 ????
Beam axle can go 50mm bigger I believe (i.e. 33's).

Post by **grimbo** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:13 pm

Dougster wrote:
grimbo wrote:31s are illegal on a Hilux so you have no hope of 33s
Interesting ..... the tyre placard on my Hilux Surf says 31x10.5x15 ????
Beam axle can go 50mm bigger I believe (i.e. 33's).

yours is an import Hilux based vehicle not a Australian spec Hilux

Post by **Barno111** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:20 pm

its easy. Just build your truck to legal standards then once regoed, start to mod. And just run the risk like the rest of use!

Post by **S.CoXy** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:22 pm

nteresting ..... the tyre placard on my Hilux Surf says 31x10.5x15 ????

So getting hold of a tyre placard that says what i want is the go?? They can't be that bad at QLD Transport..

Post by **brad-chevlux** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:27 pm

Dougster wrote:
grimbo wrote:31s are illegal on a Hilux so you have no hope of 33s
Interesting ..... the tyre placard on my Hilux Surf says 31x10.5x15 ????
Beam axle can go 50mm bigger I believe (i.e. 33's).

QLD can go plus 15mm diameter and plus %50 width.
beam axle can go 50mm increase in track.

as far as the OP goes, that means you can fit 32s to a GQ.

suspension lift rules are you can not change the bump clearance by more then 1/3 in either direction. there is no stated max lift. but again in the case of the GQ any more then 40mm lift is more then the 1/3 rule.
though i've never heard of a 2inch lift being knocked back.

Post by **Matt_85Lux** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:28 pm

S.CoXy wrote:
nteresting ..... the tyre placard on my Hilux Surf says 31x10.5x15 ????
So getting hold of a tyre placard that says what i want is the go?? They can't be that bad at QLD Transport..

Wouldn't recommend that as it is illegal to remove a tyre placard and replace it with one other than the factory one. A few guys up here have been fined for swapping the placard on their commodore to a later model one to make it appear to comply when running 19s/20s

Post by **S.CoXy** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:36 pm

Wouldn't recommend that as it is illegal to remove a tyre placard and replace it with one other than the factory one. A few guys up here have been fined for swapping the placard on their commodore to a later model one to make it appear to comply when running 19s/20s

O.K. I'll stay away from that idea then...............

Post by **ferrit** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:30 pm

Dougster wrote:
grimbo wrote:31s are illegal on a Hilux so you have no hope of 33s
Interesting ..... the tyre placard on my Hilux Surf says 31x10.5x15 ????
Beam axle can go 50mm bigger I believe (i.e. 33's).

AFAIK, SA is the only place that will let you go 50mm bigger than stock without an engineers cert.

Im pushing to get my lux on 2+2" + 285/75R16's thru engineering soon- will be ringing next week to find out just what has to be done to get it passed.

Post by **-Nemesis-** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:31 pm

grimbo wrote:
Dougster wrote:
grimbo wrote:31s are illegal on a Hilux so you have no hope of 33s
Interesting ..... the tyre placard on my Hilux Surf says 31x10.5x15 ????
Beam axle can go 50mm bigger I believe (i.e. 33's).
yours is an import Hilux based vehicle not a Australian spec Hilux

SR5 4Runners have 31's, so I would have thought SR5 Lux's would have too?

Post by **defmec** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:36 am

sell your patrol and buy a defender then u wont have to mod it so much to get anywhere

or u can just be a outlaw like the majority of us 4x4ers in qld

Post by **-Scott-** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:46 pm

ferrit wrote:AFAIK, SA is the only place that will let you go 50mm bigger than stock without an engineers cert.

Have you got that in writing from somewhere? When I went through in '07 the 15mm limit applied - the larger tyres had to be engineered (among other things.)

Post by **HeathGQ** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:31 am

big lux wrote:am filling out the motor vehicle modd application. would like to know wat mods people have had passed going through this stupid system. i have a gq wagon with superiour adjustable arms all round bbm front radius arms tough dog return to center steering dampener and king spring 4 inch lifted coils and 35x12.5 maxxis big horns on 15x8 inch rims do u think i will be get this passed or should apply for less. i have 33icnh coppers in da shed if they will help me.

don't apply for anything. Take the lift out, put the smaller tyres on. Go to www.transport.qld.gov.au and search for this - INSTALLATION OF AFTERMARKET REPLACEMENT NON-GENUINE
SUSPENSION COMPONENTRY TO MOTOR VEHICLES have a read, it says aftermarket suspension components are fine.

Follow the directions on the notice that was given to you - is it a self clearing defect?

Post by **DIRTY ROCK STAR** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:32 am

Heath sounds like he is on the money.

Post by **JrZook** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:24 am

HeathGQ wrote:
big lux wrote:am filling out the motor vehicle modd application. would like to know wat mods people have had passed going through this stupid system. i have a gq wagon with superiour adjustable arms all round bbm front radius arms tough dog return to center steering dampener and king spring 4 inch lifted coils and 35x12.5 maxxis big horns on 15x8 inch rims do u think i will be get this passed or should apply for less. i have 33icnh coppers in da shed if they will help me.
don't apply for anything. Take the lift out, put the smaller tyres on. Go to www.transport.qld.gov.au and search for this - INSTALLATION OF AFTERMARKET REPLACEMENT NON-GENUINE
SUSPENSION COMPONENTRY TO MOTOR VEHICLES have a read, it says aftermarket suspension components are fine.

Follow the directions on the notice that was given to you - is it a self clearing defect?

Bah QT are useless at answering anything besides what exactly is stated in their crappy lil rule book in front of them. If you ask them anything remotely away from the book they cant answer you.

If you read thru the suspension replacement bit from QT as listed above is also states:

1) An acceptable replacement part is a part that is manufactured to good
engineering standards and does not adversely affect vehicle safety
and complies with applicable ADRs and Queensland legislation.

So therefore a leaf/coil spring, if it lifts the vehicle altering the std bumpstop height by 1/3, does not comply with applicable QLD legislation. So as Heath suggested, lift out small tyres on. The non genuine arms should be ok according to this.

Dan

Post by **rotate_gq** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:25 pm

I got a noise defect on my pp rx7. De registered the vehicle, got a rwc from a sympathetic mechanic and re rego'd.
Definatly a dodgy way to go about things, but worked at the time.

Post by **Gaup** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:37 pm

Hi easyest is to emigrate... was thinking to move down under but me think its starting to smell fishy... first if you are over 45 .. njet you are not wanted
..then the mention above... i have wheelbarows with bigger wheels...
and the last.. limey driving..... on the wrong side of the road!!!!!

and y´are saying its the promist land?????

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