6"lift

Post by **tuffmavman** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:10 pm

Looking at putting a 6" lift in my SWB maverick. any chance someone can give a quick full list of parts i will need.
Are there more problems with swb tailshafts on 6" lift???
ANY help!

Post by **coxy321** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:26 pm

6" - Why so big?

Compensating?

Post by **bogged** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:37 pm

You will have viabration issues.. 6inch on shortys is silly... unless your tryin to run 40's

Post by **tuffmavman** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:04 pm

bogged wrote:You will have viabration issues.. 6inch on shortys is silly... unless your tryin to run 40's

gonna run 36" tyres. dont want any body lift! what size lift would be acceptable?
will i need cardinal joint at both ends of the rear tail shaft because of the severe angle? and transmission spacers??

Post by **coxy321** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:23 pm

You can get away with as little as 2" suspension lift to run 35-36" tyres - it will just require some smoothing of the guards.

There is no cheap or easy way to do a big lift on a SWB, anything over 3" will require a full kit.

Parts needed (feel free to add on guys):

- Shocks
- Springs
- Adjustable panhards (F&R)
- Adjustable upper and lower rear arms
- Front castor correction by arms, boxes or plates
- Swaybar extensions
- Possibly bumpstops
- Transmission spacers
- Flip tailshaft (rear i think)
- Possibly double cardin joints if angles are that bad.
- Full exo cage for the rollovers

The lower the better.

Do you have the 36" tyres yet, or are they on the shopping list?

Post by **tuffmavman** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:28 pm

everything is listed ready for purchase.
just purchased 88 swb mav,
have only done up 97 jeep wrangler on 4in lift 33"'s, everything is so different just trying to get my head around it.

Post by **roverrat** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:31 pm

agreed you really dont need to go anywhere near that high of a lift to run 36"...

coxy had it almost spot on with the list he gave tho .....

keep it as low as you can .. to fit the desired tyres i would go no more than 3" saves driveline hassles ...

just touch up the guards, front wont be an issue on 3" provided it IS a tru 3" lift

Post by **Reddo** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:43 pm

You wont need the 6 inch lift for 36's, however, if that's what you would like to run, go with what you want to do.

IMO

I'd look to getting a three or four inch lift (If it was me, go for 4), and then chopping the guards out, spacing your front control arms, and then some long travel shocks.

Within the next few months you will find the lift will settle in, and the car will drop in height. And you might just get away with spacing the gearbox down, and running all your stock upper arms, but I would look to getting some stronger lower rear arms. From what i've read and web wheeled, anything in or around the 4 inch lift is going to require castor correction, on the front end.

But its up to you. If you want to buy a big lift, then go for it, however, i would sorta say, best to start in the middle, and then adjust your lift from there.

I have 4/5 inch lift in mine, and im looking to loose about 2 inchs of it. Once i get home, i'll be taking the grinder to the arches.

Post by **bogged** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:17 pm

search for SIM79's photos of GQ's with 38's and 2inch lift...

Post by **RUSSMUSS** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:22 pm

i ran a tough dog 5in in my old shorty,
5in springs
5in shocks
drop boxes
panhards f&r
upper adjustable arms
lower longer arms
double cardin joint at top of tailshaft (still had vibs)
gearbox spaced down 12mm
quick discounect sway bars

it was a very rolly car off road always getting wheels up
i currently run 3in now and its amazing how much more stable it is both cars were running 35"

mate i would just run a 3in or maybe a 4in and massage the guards and bar it up it would be a little cheaper and alot more nicer to drive
thats imo

Post by **tuffmavman** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:28 pm

ok so 4" sounds good, will i need driveline mods with 4" 35's
I will need,
1. springs
2. shocks
3. Adjustable panhards (F&R)
These are the obvios things.
extras?
-longer lower arms?
-upper arms?
-drop boxes??
-tailshaft mods??
-sway bars??

Post by **RUSSMUSS** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:47 pm

yes
upper arms adjustable
lower arms longer 10 or maybe 15
longer brake lines
drop boxes or arms (you could get away with castor bushes and arm spaces)
steerong dampener
gearbox spacers 10mm or 12mm
then just play with the upper arms till your happy with the tailshaft but
every shorty is different with the vibs so you made need to do something to the tailshaft or it may be fine

Post by **Reddo** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:32 pm

tuffmavman wrote:ok so 4" sounds good, will i need driveline mods with 4" 35's
I will need,
1. springs
2. shocks
3. Adjustable panhards (F&R)
These are the obvios things.
extras?
-longer lower arms?
-upper arms?
-drop boxes??
-tailshaft mods??
-sway bars??

Sounds about right.

But it depends on how you get your 4 inchs doesnt it

If you go two inch spring lift, and 2 inch body, and long travel shocks, you will save a packet. Cost will be some rear end travel and drop.

Post by **SIM79** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:32 pm

bogged wrote:search for SIM79's photos of GQ's with 38's and 2inch lift...

3inch suspesnion lift, no body lift and 37s

If your doing a 4 inch lift on SWB you need 3 inch coils as this will give you 4 to 4.5 lift, if you get 4 inch coils you will get 5 to 6 inches of lift.

Post by **bogged** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:08 pm

SIM79 wrote:If your doing a 4 inch lift on SWB you need 3 inch coils as this will give you 4 to 4.5 lift,

Plus get it engineered and depending where you are, you will have almost zero chance. Thats only another 1000

edit: also depends if you want to spend the rest of your days being pulled over in a higher 4b. specially when the new rules come in...

Post by **GO79** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:13 am

a mate with 5" gu ute had bad wobbles and put some drop box's in the front and it drive awsum now for a pootrol

Post by **Shortie Mav** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:19 pm

Gday mate,

Yeah i have 88' Maverick, and i have four inch lift.

Im running:

Four inch tough dog springs
Long travel 9way adjustable tough dog shockies
9way Adjustable steering damper
Front adjustable tough dog panard rod
Rear adjustable tough dog panard rod
Superior engineering 4 inch drop boxes
Superior engineering gear box spaces
Custom made double cardinal rear drive shaft
Extended brake lines front and rear
Four inch sway bar disconnectors

With this set up i get no vibrations in the rear talishaft and it rides really well. After getting the drop boxes it drives like stock if not better.

cheers brad

Post by **waandy** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:00 pm

i run a 4 inch ironman lift im my swb, if you like to spend money and like head aches get 4 inch and over, if i was doing it again id go 3 inch coils, 6 inch shocks with cones and springs clamped in and an inch or to in the body, it sounds like a bit of work but it could be done in a day, iv spent over 6 months trying to get my 4 inch running right, as i didnt want to do double cardinal

Post by **coxy321** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:07 pm

waandy wrote:i run a 4 inch ironman lift im my swb, if you like to spend money and like head aches get 4 inch and over, if i was doing it again id go 3 inch coils, 6 inch shocks with cones and springs clamped in and an inch or to in the body, it sounds like a bit of work but it could be done in a day, iv spent over 6 months trying to get my 4 inch running right, as i didnt want to do double cardinal

What was in your Ironman kit? One of my mates just got one in his GU ute and (no offence) it sucks the big one.

Post by **waandy** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:24 pm

coxy321 wrote:
waandy wrote:i run a 4 inch ironman lift im my swb, if you like to spend money and like head aches get 4 inch and over, if i was doing it again id go 3 inch coils, 6 inch shocks with cones and springs clamped in and an inch or to in the body, it sounds like a bit of work but it could be done in a day, iv spent over 6 months trying to get my 4 inch running right, as i didnt want to do double cardinal
What was in your Ironman kit? One of my mates just got one in his GU ute and (no offence) it sucks the big one.

the 4 inch foam cell comp lift, i find it good, hit shit hard as without bottoming it out, flexes well, but if i did it again id buy it all seperate as i said before. came with springs shocks panhards caster plates brake lines sway bar extensions

Post by **bogged** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:37 pm

coxy321 wrote:
waandy wrote:i run a 4 inch ironman lift im my swb, if you like to spend money and like head aches get 4 inch and over, if i was doing it again id go 3 inch coils, 6 inch shocks with cones and springs clamped in and an inch or to in the body, it sounds like a bit of work but it could be done in a day, iv spent over 6 months trying to get my 4 inch running right, as i didnt want to do double cardinal
What was in your Ironman kit? One of my mates just got one in his GU ute and (no offence) it sucks the big one.

whats up with it? I know 2 GUs runnin it and lovin it.

Post by **coxy321** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:51 pm

bogged wrote:
coxy321 wrote:
waandy wrote:i run a 4 inch ironman lift im my swb, if you like to spend money and like head aches get 4 inch and over, if i was doing it again id go 3 inch coils, 6 inch shocks with cones and springs clamped in and an inch or to in the body, it sounds like a bit of work but it could be done in a day, iv spent over 6 months trying to get my 4 inch running right, as i didnt want to do double cardinal
What was in your Ironman kit? One of my mates just got one in his GU ute and (no offence) it sucks the big one.
whats up with it? I know 2 GUs runnin it and lovin it.

Too stiff on the rougher stuff (washaways and rutted tracks). Might be those foam cell shocks though (not the whole kit).

Post by **Reddo** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:15 am

coxy321 wrote:
bogged wrote:
coxy321 wrote:
waandy wrote:i run a 4 inch ironman lift im my swb, if you like to spend money and like head aches get 4 inch and over, if i was doing it again id go 3 inch coils, 6 inch shocks with cones and springs clamped in and an inch or to in the body, it sounds like a bit of work but it could be done in a day, iv spent over 6 months trying to get my 4 inch running right, as i didnt want to do double cardinal
What was in your Ironman kit? One of my mates just got one in his GU ute and (no offence) it sucks the big one.
whats up with it? I know 2 GUs runnin it and lovin it.
Too stiff on the rougher stuff (washaways and rutted tracks). Might be those foam cell shocks though (not the whole kit).

Could you say nature of the kit, keep it firm, and keep it in control?

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