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HELP ASAP. brakes barely work

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HELP ASAP. brakes barely work

Post by me217 »

hey
finished work today driving home and just as i got to my drive way the brakes on the 92 wt sierra started to play up. it feels as if ive got bad brake fade. and even if i really stand on them they wont lock. theres also a bit of a smell coming from them. but the thing is i hadnts bin braking hard at all. its actually a 5 min highway run b4 my house so i hadnt braked at all.

can anyone help me as this is my daily driver atm.

my brakes do leak between the master cylinder and the reservior. (already raplaced the to o-rings, it stopped for a while but now its back. but its always topped up.)

the front rotors are only about 8 months old.

brakes have always felt spongey. but still worked fine
me217

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Post by bunder_ute »

hey mate... it sounds like you may have a leak or a master cylinder problem...

i am leaning towards a master cylinder problem.
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Post by 11_evl »

keep pumping and topping up sluid as needed and see which rear wheel develops a wet patch.
fix as required
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Post by me217 »

i checked all that and couldnt find a wet patch. im gonna take it for another drive but steady. just to see if its changed
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1985 suzuki mighty boy : mods, f8b
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Post by me217 »

checked it all again and no wet patches took it for a drive and it was back to normal. could the brakes be dragging abit causing them to heat up. it is a very hot day today. 38 degrees in the sun
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1985 suzuki mighty boy : mods, f8b
1990 toyota mr2 gt import : mods, turbo timer, short shifter, 2.5" exhaust
1992 suzuki sierra : mods, g16b mpfi, 235's/75, snorkel & lift on the way.
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Post by mrRocky »

One trip in mud can destroy your pads especially in the rear. If the rear are wore substantially then the front wont function as they should.
check the rear
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Post by me217 »

havnt bin 4wding for ages but ill check it out
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1985 suzuki mighty boy : mods, f8b
1990 toyota mr2 gt import : mods, turbo timer, short shifter, 2.5" exhaust
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Post by Ben_Sierra »

mrRocky wrote:One trip in mud can destroy your pads especially in the rear. If the rear are wore substantially then the front wont function as they should.
check the rear
Doesn't a 92 wt have drums in the rear?
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Post by Ridge »

Ben_Sierra wrote:
mrRocky wrote:One trip in mud can destroy your pads especially in the rear. If the rear are wore substantially then the front wont function as they should.
check the rear
Doesn't a 92 wt have drums in the rear?
they are all drum break rear.
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Post by mrRocky »

brake pads/shoes
Didnt mean to imply rears were discs, mud and gunk get traped in the rear drums and erode the brake shoes at a rate much quicker than they would normally wear.
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Post by me217 »

but would that cause them to not work properly and them wen everythings cooled down they work properly again.
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1985 suzuki mighty boy : mods, f8b
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Post by mrRocky »

If it was me I would replace all pads front and rear.
Bleed/flush brake system with about 600ml of fluid to make sure its clean.
Then as a last resort look at actual disc rotors then the booster/mast cyl itself.

If you start with something simple like pads first then you can eliminate other things one by one. A brake shop may be able to diagnose it quickly and cheaply, or then again it might cost you an arm and a leg, you have to weigh up what your capable of doing as its simple enough but brakes can mean the diff between life and death so double check all your work.
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Post by Ridge »

mrRocky wrote:If it was me I would replace all pads front and rear.
Bleed/flush brake system with about 600ml of fluid to make sure its clean.
Then as a last resort look at actual disc rotors then the booster/mast cyl itself.

If you start with something simple like pads first then you can eliminate other things one by one. A brake shop may be able to diagnose it quickly and cheaply, or then again it might cost you an arm and a leg, you have to weigh up what your capable of doing as its simple enough but brakes can mean the diff between life and death so double check all your work.
^^^ what he said

pretty much if you get any mud or sand in a break drum it will wear your pads down really quick. clean them out asap and adjust if you have too.
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Post by me217 »

brakes are working fine now. i did nutting to them. the only thing i can think of is the rears jumped to the next adjustment and were dragging which caused brake fade.
me217

1985 suzuki mighty boy : mods, f8b
1990 toyota mr2 gt import : mods, turbo timer, short shifter, 2.5" exhaust
1992 suzuki sierra : mods, g16b mpfi, 235's/75, snorkel & lift on the way.
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Post by me217 »

brakes are working fine now. i did nutting to them. the only thing i can think of is the rears jumped to the next adjustment and were dragging which caused brake fade.
me217

1985 suzuki mighty boy : mods, f8b
1990 toyota mr2 gt import : mods, turbo timer, short shifter, 2.5" exhaust
1992 suzuki sierra : mods, g16b mpfi, 235's/75, snorkel & lift on the way.
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