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Rears up front kit.

Tech Talk for Suzuki owners.

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Post by greg »

grimbo wrote:I agree Guy, don't need to move brake line brackets just need longer brake lines.


Fair call - longer brake lines will also perform the job.

Things to consider though are:
1. you will have more brake line dangling around to get stuck on things
2. the longer your brake lines, the less effective your brakes are (unless you change to a bigger master cylindar).
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Post by greg »

love_mud wrote:Bumpstops yep move em .. why the rest ??? I've never had an issue with the rest being in the stock location ..


:cough: because your car has no flex :cough:

Guy - the custom shock mounts are there for 2 reasons:
1. To get the shocks back over to where the axel now sits.
2. Because the extra travel from the springs will require that you run a longer shock in order to make use of that travel. Expect more droop - and therefore expect to require a longer shock (with a longer fully compressed length too) which will require a new shock mount.
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Post by greg »

camo wrote:oh factory shocks wont fit any more so u will need new ones
:) :) :lol:


19 minutes and counting - not happy Jan! :x

Comon man - don't make do work whilst at work :cry:

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Post by camo »

ok six pics first one is the kit then some install pics then how the new front sits then my approach angle
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Post by camo »

:lol: :lol:
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Post by greg »

Interesting - so it moves the rear mounting point backwards - rather than extending the chassis and moving the front mount forwards.

This is a bit similar to what red zook has on his sierra to run longer springs in the rear...
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Post by nicbeer »

So could you reuse the original shock mounts.

How much longer brake lines would be needed.

Is that the RRO kit??

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Post by greg »

nicbeer wrote:So could you reuse the original shock mounts.

How much longer brake lines would be needed.


I think both these questions would be answered by what springs you decide to use in the setup...

The more droop you get - the longer you will need your brake lines to be, and the longer your shocks need to be too.
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Post by nicbeer »

At the start I will be using factory shagged springs and then upgrade to 2" west coast suspension springs when the funds are there.

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Post by camo »

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Post by greg »

nicbeer wrote:At the start I will be using factory shagged springs and then upgrade to 2" west coast suspension springs when the funds are there.

Nic


In that case - the thing to do would be to not replace your shocks (if possible) until after you get the springs in there that you are going to keep - otherwise you'll be buying shocks over and over to get the right lengths... and that would just be silly :D
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Post by camo »

last 2 trying to see the difference it is really a thing of feeling the difference the front is so much softer now mod the back tomorrow

yes this is the RRO kit also have the bolt on front shock mount kit to fit and the bolt on back mount kit to fit both from RRO
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Post by greg »

Looks good Camo :cool:

And the ugly (read: Hawiian) shirt in the engine bay just finishes it all off :D

Note: i gather you are yet to flex it up then - i'm interested to see the difference that the bigger bodylift makes compared to what big steve, grimbo and myself have had to cut out of the front end to make that tyres fit...
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Post by camo »

will flex it up tonight just waiting for the gear to arrive

i have smached my fire wall back heaps as well am keen to see how it all goes
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Post by nicbeer »

camo wrote:last 2 trying to see the difference it is really a thing of feeling the difference the front is so much softer now mod the back tomorrow

yes this is the RRO kit also have the bolt on front shock mount kit to fit and the bolt on back mount kit to fit both from RRO


Mod the back tomorrow??
I have thought about this and might do a 1" shackle extension as well at the same time.

Is this saying you have bought and fitted the RRO shock mount kit as well?

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Post by DeWsE »

Hey Nic
Before upgrading to the west coast springs PM Badooky, as he is running some on the front. He should be able to give you a good first hand opinion about them.
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Post by Wolverine »

Hey camo, looks good mate, what springs did you put the kit on with!
I was lloking at the shock mount kit aswell, what are you thoughts on them?

Also how long did it take for the gear to come over from RRO.
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Post by Wolverine »

Also Nicbeer, the kit looks pretty simple and could probably be replicated quite easily. Should maybe order one and I got a mate who could replicate one of them for bugger all and would cost a 1/4 of the price.

Something to think about!!!
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Post by nicbeer »

I will Pm him, thanks.

If you want to order the kit and maybe the shock mounts I dont mind handing over some $$ for a replica.

PM me if you want.

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Post by Wolverine »

Well I got a reply from RRO, I thinks most of it has already been established but any way he said
1)bump stops and shocks do not need to be modified
2) no issues with steering
3) it can be used with lifted or stock springs.

Sounds good to me. Just waiting on those pics Camo!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by grimbo »

I can't see how those tyres aren't going to chew the hell out of everything. It doesn't appear that it has moved the wheel forward enough to not clear the firewall. We get contact on the firewall even with the axle forward about 1.5" and cutting.

I'd imagine that this would be a good setup on a ::shudder:: SPOA as it doesn't comprimise approach angle and with the axle moving forward under compression but SPUA I reckon the chassis extension is the way to go. IMHO ;)
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Post by stumped »

camo wrote:also have the bolt on front shock mount kit to fit and the bolt on back mount kit to fit both from RRO



how much did this cost ya? got any pics?
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Post by camo »

it just touched the fire wall when i flexed up but did not touch the front at all

i used stardard second hand rear srings $40 for the 2

i am thinking of getting custom main leaves made and running orbit eyes(bollock joints you know what i mean) and getting the centre hole moved towards the front by 50mm change the lenght from 40" eye to eye to 43' eye to eye with orbits and 2' longer custom shackles and centre pin moved forward 50mm

i was thinking about getting some copy's made up to sell here but am not sure if i will get my arse kicked for it

have not fitted the shock towers yet as i dont have a drill bit big enough
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Post by camo »

here's the flex shots :lol:
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Post by camo »

:rofl: :lol: :rofl:
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Post by greg »

What's that eye-hurting thing sitting where the steering wheel should be Camo? :shock:
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Post by camo »

dont bag my red steering wheel it is rubber and great for more grip and it goes white when it sits in the rain for to long :rofl:

and i am 6'3" and my knees hit the old big wheel
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Post by greg »

camo wrote:dont bag my red steering wheel it is rubber and great for more grip and it goes white when it sits in the rain for to long :rofl:

and i am 6'3" and my knees hit the old big wheel


hahaha - mr sensitive... :lol:

Check out Big Steve's steering wheel setup - it has a 100mm (i'm guessing) spacer under it to get it further away from the pedals - this means more leg room... :cool:
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Post by bigsteve »

greg wrote:
camo wrote:dont bag my red steering wheel it is rubber and great for more grip and it goes white when it sits in the rain for to long :rofl:

and i am 6'3" and my knees hit the old big wheel


hahaha - mr sensitive... :lol:

Check out Big Steve's steering wheel setup - it has a 100mm (i'm guessing) spacer under it to get it further away from the pedals - this means more leg room... :cool:


More so I can heel/toe the pedals.

P.S. Those rims way out bling the steering wheel.

Nice tyres too :cool:
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Post by Mr Emu »

Have been searching and reading and found this thread. Im thinking of ordering the RUF kit from RRO as talked about here. All the pics of the install have now disapeared, was wondering if anyone had any lying around.
I will be running OME 2inch lifted springs with this kit, as well as sum extended shackles. Either 1 or 2 inch? any recomendations?
Did anyone get around to making a similar product, or know of one available here in Australia? If so would be very interested to here about it.

Thanks Emu
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