Do you need a bullbar to be considered a real 4x4? That is the question at hand. I only have a nudge bar, well actually its only there to mount the massive spotties on. The only reason i would get a bullbar would be to mount a winch into but then again i might just make a mount in between the plastic corners. I think the standard bumper is good for approach angle and is nice and light and if you do a FUBAR on it they are only like $80 out of the trading post to replace. I made mine look nice and tough by putting a piece of ally chequer plate over the middle section, looks real ince. thats all for now.
mike.
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No, but it helps keep the offroad offroading.
I'll tell you a little story, because I like telling stories. (I have been told I dont shut up).
Anyways here in the eastern part of the us we try to get together 2 or 3 times a year at this place called Uhwarrie. Basically it is a national park, with trails cut around the place in the woods. Rocks and some cool hill climbs.
Most of the soil around this place is this really slick greasy clay, but only when it rains. Otherwise this part of the mountain range doesn't see much rain the in the summer. It gets dusty as hell. Imagine some of your cross country trails that snorkels help out on, but up on a mountain. If you get a caravan of trucks... the person that is last can not see at all. By the end of the summer there is usually about a inch or more of powdered clay on the ground.
To make this long story short. I got hung up on the top of this obstacle, with a hill with rocks and some small ledges right below me. It was only a light stuck so I just gave it some gas and broke free.
Actually I broke to free.... with all this clay dust the truck slid down this hill, and got a fair amount of speed, with the breaks LOCKED. I slid down the trail, luckily every one was quick on their toes. I then slid off the trail to the left, and took out a decent sized tree with the ARB. I snapped it right at the base, didn't even slow me down. WHAAAAAAM
I then clipped a really big tree with the arb, it sort of slid of the side and redirected the truck back on the trail.
Then I stopped.
The only damage was to the plug welds that hold on the bumper mount brackets on the frame, and to small dents on the hood, and a gouge on the roof.
If I had my stock bumper I would not have been driving home. I would have lost a head light, hood, grill, bumper, tranny cooler, oil cooler, radiator, and maybe more.
That arb saved my truck, it would have been screwed up.
I'll tell you a little story, because I like telling stories. (I have been told I dont shut up).
Anyways here in the eastern part of the us we try to get together 2 or 3 times a year at this place called Uhwarrie. Basically it is a national park, with trails cut around the place in the woods. Rocks and some cool hill climbs.
Most of the soil around this place is this really slick greasy clay, but only when it rains. Otherwise this part of the mountain range doesn't see much rain the in the summer. It gets dusty as hell. Imagine some of your cross country trails that snorkels help out on, but up on a mountain. If you get a caravan of trucks... the person that is last can not see at all. By the end of the summer there is usually about a inch or more of powdered clay on the ground.
To make this long story short. I got hung up on the top of this obstacle, with a hill with rocks and some small ledges right below me. It was only a light stuck so I just gave it some gas and broke free.
Actually I broke to free.... with all this clay dust the truck slid down this hill, and got a fair amount of speed, with the breaks LOCKED. I slid down the trail, luckily every one was quick on their toes. I then slid off the trail to the left, and took out a decent sized tree with the ARB. I snapped it right at the base, didn't even slow me down. WHAAAAAAM
I then clipped a really big tree with the arb, it sort of slid of the side and redirected the truck back on the trail.
Then I stopped.
The only damage was to the plug welds that hold on the bumper mount brackets on the frame, and to small dents on the hood, and a gouge on the roof.
If I had my stock bumper I would not have been driving home. I would have lost a head light, hood, grill, bumper, tranny cooler, oil cooler, radiator, and maybe more.
That arb saved my truck, it would have been screwed up.
DougH
95SR: locked front and rear, more coming soon.
95SR: locked front and rear, more coming soon.
antt wrote:i don't think you 'have' to have one, but they certainly help out off road. with a bullbar fitted you are able to fit brush bars off it so that you can slide past tree's, rocks etc without buggering your guards
I would rather bugger the gaurds then the tree. Over here they are real sensitive to access issues. Bugger one to many trees and they close the area, and you dont get to wheel there any more. :(
DougH
95SR: locked front and rear, more coming soon.
95SR: locked front and rear, more coming soon.
RE: Bullbars.
I hit a deer last year,
. No I wasn't driving fast, but it jumped across the road in front of me, (night time) I collected it's rear on my front left and then I connected with an embankment on the front right. Ouch!
It could have meant replacing two headlights and repairing other body damage, but all I ended up with was slightly more aerodynamic lines on my bullbar.
They may not be a prerequisite for 4WD's (in this situation the average 2WD sedan would have benefitted) but they certainly are functional, and money savers, in the bush.
Neil.
Afterthought:
If I was going to mount a wench on it, I think I'd rather mount my wench on a bullbar than a "nudge"bar, it just sounds more er; kinda manly!
I hit a deer last year,
. No I wasn't driving fast, but it jumped across the road in front of me, (night time) I collected it's rear on my front left and then I connected with an embankment on the front right. Ouch!
It could have meant replacing two headlights and repairing other body damage, but all I ended up with was slightly more aerodynamic lines on my bullbar.
They may not be a prerequisite for 4WD's (in this situation the average 2WD sedan would have benefitted) but they certainly are functional, and money savers, in the bush.
Neil.
Afterthought:
If I was going to mount a wench on it, I think I'd rather mount my wench on a bullbar than a "nudge"bar, it just sounds more er; kinda manly!
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Neilj wrote:RE: Bullbars.
Afterthought:
If I was going to mount a wench on it, I think I'd rather mount my wench on a bullbar than a "nudge"bar, it just sounds more er; kinda manly!
I dont wanna know where you mount your wenches, i reckon on the bonnet would be better as she could lie her back across it.
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ToNkA wrote:Neilj wrote:RE: Bullbars.
Afterthought:
If I was going to mount a wench on it, I think I'd rather mount my wench on a bullbar than a "nudge"bar, it just sounds more er; kinda manly!
I dont wanna know where you mount your wenches, i reckon on the bonnet would be better as she could lie her back across it.
No no no, bent over hanging on the bullbar. Where's your sense of style?
As for the bonnet; IMHO that only really works on lowered sports cars, ideally with dropped headlights (like Supras).
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feet grips !!!!!
foot holds !!!!!
ya gotta have a bull bar to mount wenches !!!!!
even on the bonnet (tonka) ya got have a foot hold !!!!!!
ya gotta have a bull bar to mount wenches !!!!!
even on the bonnet (tonka) ya got have a foot hold !!!!!!
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