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which model will suit

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which model will suit

Post by ajsr »

hey all
Im looking to step up from my sierra to some form of rover and am looking for advice on which model may suit.
the budget inc mods up to 15-20k
requirements
must be close to as capable as the zook
prefer to seat 4 but this is not a major requirement
ability to seriously modify
will want lockers and gears
good parts availablity.

my thoughts so far way along the lines of a v8 rangie early 90's or early disco although some of the defenders look interesting as well
zook specs
twin locked
transfer gears
34 swampers
she's pretty capable but my kidneys are paying the price ;)
any help would be great cheers andrew
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Post by benny_110 »

My choice would be a Defender. (thats why I have one)


But if you are after a V8 and comfort I would go an update D1.

3.9l v8 and 24 spline axles.
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Post by 6.5 rangie »

88ish Rangie is the pick of rangies, rangies have more room than a disco 1. V8 on gas i suppose?
would want atleast a 3.9v8 if thats the case.
Lockers, your choices are Maxi drive, arb, jacmac, kam.
Axles are maxi drive, hytuff, jacmac, rovertracks.
Crown wheel and pinion are weak, aftermarktet kam ones are stronger. other choices are toy conversion (recommend this one), rear salsbury, or gq patrol/80 series cruiser combo.
Transcase is tough as nails, ZF auto's are good aswell.
Gearbox choices are ZF auto, LT95 4 spped manual (strong), LT77 5 speed manual (not so strong), R380 5 speed (stonger than 77)
can get 30% and 49% reduction trans gears for the LT230 trans case.
parts are easy to get.
oh and way more capable than a zook ;)
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Post by ajsr »

6.5 rangie wrote:88ish Rangie is the pick of rangies, rangies have more room than a disco 1. V8 on gas i suppose?
would want atleast a 3.9v8 if thats the case.
Lockers, your choices are Maxi drive, arb, jacmac, kam.
Axles are maxi drive, hytuff, jacmac, rovertracks.
Crown wheel and pinion are weak, aftermarktet kam ones are stronger. other choices are toy conversion (recommend this one), rear salsbury, or gq patrol/80 series cruiser combo.
Transcase is tough as nails, ZF auto's are good aswell.
Gearbox choices are ZF auto, LT95 4 spped manual (strong), LT77 5 speed manual (not so strong), R380 5 speed (stonger than 77)
can get 30% and 49% reduction trans gears for the LT230 trans case.
parts are easy to get.
oh and way more capable than a zook ;)
you'd be supprised how many people I've heard this from at the start of a trip and then passed stuck just a little later ;) .

ok so which is easier to mod the disco or rangie or are they both a standard base platform?
also is tdi or v8 a better option and in a rover atuo or manual?
who's got a good build thread to get idea's from?
sorry for the noob Q's rovers are new to me
my little kindney killer :lol:
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Post by benny_110 »

ajsr wrote:
6.5 rangie wrote:88ish Rangie is the pick of rangies, rangies have more room than a disco 1. V8 on gas i suppose?
would want atleast a 3.9v8 if thats the case.
Lockers, your choices are Maxi drive, arb, jacmac, kam.
Axles are maxi drive, hytuff, jacmac, rovertracks.
Crown wheel and pinion are weak, aftermarktet kam ones are stronger. other choices are toy conversion (recommend this one), rear salsbury, or gq patrol/80 series cruiser combo.
Transcase is tough as nails, ZF auto's are good aswell.
Gearbox choices are ZF auto, LT95 4 spped manual (strong), LT77 5 speed manual (not so strong), R380 5 speed (stonger than 77)
can get 30% and 49% reduction trans gears for the LT230 trans case.
parts are easy to get.
oh and way more capable than a zook ;)
you'd be supprised how many people I've heard this from at the start of a trip and then passed stuck just a little later ;) .

ok so which is easier to mod the disco or rangie or are they both a standard base platform?
also is tdi or v8 a better option and in a rover atuo or manual?
who's got a good build thread to get idea's from?
sorry for the noob Q's rovers are new to me
my little kindney killer :lol:
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RRC and D1 are the same platfrom.

RRC have more class then a d1
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Post by 6.5 rangie »

yeah agree RR has more class, and more room inside, larger cargo area, front and rear bars are easier to get. I have a D1 tdi, and a 93 RR, i find the ride and driver position in the RR better (i'm 6'4"). Plus the rear door on the D1 pi$$e$ me off, good when it works, but pain when it doesn't.
300tdi is gutless, but has great fuel economy, V8 is better but obviously economy not as good but gas is an option. Isuzu, good power and economy :)
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Post by ajsr »

so any good serious build treads I should look at?
I only want to build this sucker once if possible.
cheers andrew
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Post by benny_110 »

ajsr wrote:so any good serious build treads I should look at?
I only want to build this sucker once if possible.
cheers andrew

The place for Rovers is AULRO. http://www.aulro.com/afvb/

This is D1 build.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members-rides ... 1-ute.html
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Post by Hobie18 »

mate there's a twin locked 90's rangie in the markets for 7200, would be a great place to start as someone else has already done lots a mods
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Post by red90 »

6.5 rangie wrote:300tdi is gutless, but has great fuel economy, V8 is better but obviously economy not as good but gas is an option. Isuzu, good power and economy :)
The TDIs are easy and cheap to tune up to be as fast as the stock V8s...and you get to keep the great mileage at the same time.
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Post by Slunnie »

For that I'd be looking at the Rangie.

The other advantage of the Rangie is that the CofG is lower than that of a Disco1 (and waaay lower than a zooks). There are also parts everywhere for Rover mods.

Me.... 3.9V8, ZF auto with LT230 transfer case. I wouldn't even consider the Tdi if its a play thing, they dont have the power or instant response that a V8 has. This is also the combo that many of the Rock crawlers run around here. There is a lot of RRC building experience out there, do a search on it.
Cheers
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Post by def90 »

ajsr wrote:
6.5 rangie wrote:88ish Rangie is the pick of rangies, rangies have more room than a disco 1. V8 on gas i suppose?
would want atleast a 3.9v8 if thats the case.
Lockers, your choices are Maxi drive, arb, jacmac, kam.
Axles are maxi drive, hytuff, jacmac, rovertracks.
Crown wheel and pinion are weak, aftermarktet kam ones are stronger. other choices are toy conversion (recommend this one), rear salsbury, or gq patrol/80 series cruiser combo.
Transcase is tough as nails, ZF auto's are good aswell.
Gearbox choices are ZF auto, LT95 4 spped manual (strong), LT77 5 speed manual (not so strong), R380 5 speed (stonger than 77)
can get 30% and 49% reduction trans gears for the LT230 trans case.
parts are easy to get.
oh and way more capable than a zook ;)
you'd be supprised how many people I've heard this from at the start of a trip and then passed stuck just a little later ;) .

ok so which is easier to mod the disco or rangie or are they both a standard base platform?
also is tdi or v8 a better option and in a rover atuo or manual?
who's got a good build thread to get idea's from?
sorry for the noob Q's rovers are new to me
my little kindney killer :lol:
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forgot how short wheelbase those little fellas are :shock:
and with the wheelbase of a RRc or disco you wont be doing wheelies as often :D

sweetlittle drover? though :cool:

go the rangie, as said you'll find them for sale already with alot of the mods you want and save buckets!!

or you can buy my diffs - goes on either RRC or disco with upgraded axles, lockers, c.v's, etc :lol:
1986 - Stage 1 V8 serIII style side ute - gone
1997 - 300 TDI 130 single cab ute - gone
1986 - 90 defender soft top, bars, buttons and tyres
2000 - TD5 disco 'the boss's rig'
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Post by ajsr »

ok is there a wheel base difference between the rangie models ie 2 and 4 door or better years to look at?
cheers and thanks for the advice
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Post by Micka »

I've got some toy converted diffs for a Rangie that are twin locked with chromo axels and Longfield CVs. Bolt straight under and are HEAPS stronger than standard...and HEAPS stronger than the ones that def90 has for ransom..I mean for sale.

$5k and they're yours.
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Post by PacMan »

ajsr wrote:ok is there a wheel base difference between the rangie models ie 2 and 4 door or better years to look at?
cheers and thanks for the advice
Hi ajsr,

all Range Rover and Discoverys are 100 inch wheel base.
There are some extra long Range Rovers. But there are rare.

Try to get a Range Rover with upgraded axles and diffs and a chev v8.
You save a lot of money and the weak parts of the 4x4 are gone.


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Post by def90 »

Micka wrote:I've got some toy converted diffs for a Rangie that are twin locked with chromo axels and Longfield CVs. Bolt straight under and are HEAPS stronger than standard...and HEAPS stronger than the ones that def90 has for ransom..I mean for sale.

$5k and they're yours.

bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :finger:

tooooo late now :finger:

i've got some mogs for sale 404's, 2 steer diffs, $5001 sugar loads stronger then any rover/toy junk that micka is trying dodgely offload!! put them in and you'll never need reverse!!! or a winch!!!!
1986 - Stage 1 V8 serIII style side ute - gone
1997 - 300 TDI 130 single cab ute - gone
1986 - 90 defender soft top, bars, buttons and tyres
2000 - TD5 disco 'the boss's rig'
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