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Chevy V8 Diesel

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Chevy V8 Diesel

Post by old mate »

Hi all, Just wanting to know if a chev 6.5 or 6.2 v8 diesel will bolt up to a t400 auto and does anyone know who sells them in oz at a good price.
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Re: Chevy V8 Diesel

Post by bogged »

Brunswick Diesel in Perth

Dont go the 6.2, plenty of threads on it.
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Post by 6.5 rangie »

yes it will, theres heaps better engines out there, for the size and effort thier just not that exciting. waste of time IMHO, been there done that :cry:
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6.5

Post by vk2icj »

Hello

I have a 6.5 Diesel in my 60 series. I didn't put it in the previous owner had Brunswick put it in. I'ts simple. It rumbles lovely. I have more than enough power for just about everything and I get economy similar to the standard 4.2 diesels and 3 litre Patrols in my club. Parts are easy to come by and Brunswick will overnight just about anything if you need. If these motors are done correctly they are great. OK REPCO doesn't stock every part but you would be suprised how easy it is to get the stuff you need when you have a bit of a look. Price wise I can't comment as I bought mine installed and for a good price. but performance wise I love mine. I love rolling down an on ramp for the freeway and letting the old girl roar. My neighbors say they hear me several blocks away lol
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Re: 6.5

Post by KiwiBacon »

vk2icj wrote:Hello

I have a 6.5 Diesel in my 60 series. I didn't put it in the previous owner had Brunswick put it in. I'ts simple. It rumbles lovely. I have more than enough power for just about everything and I get economy similar to the standard 4.2 diesels and 3 litre Patrols in my club. Parts are easy to come by and Brunswick will overnight just about anything if you need. If these motors are done correctly they are great. OK REPCO doesn't stock every part but you would be suprised how easy it is to get the stuff you need when you have a bit of a look. Price wise I can't comment as I bought mine installed and for a good price. but performance wise I love mine. I love rolling down an on ramp for the freeway and letting the old girl roar. My neighbors say they hear me several blocks away lol
Is yours turbocharged? What economy figures are you getting?
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Post by old mate »

i was going to go petrol v8 but had nothing but troubles with my last one in the water and mud and carby troubles on the steep stuff. I know a bloke with a 6.5 turbo in his patrol and the torque is unbelievable but if i cant find one at a decent price i'll just stick with a injected 350 or 400 chev.
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Post by 6.5 rangie »

You should be able to do it for 10k, but hey thats a lot of petrol! Mine went ok, about the same power as the 336 holden stroker that was in it before, economy was around 16l/100k. But had trouble cooling it, eventually got it done with a big aluminium 2 core radiater. Now i'm going an isuzu 4BD1T intercooled, it will have around the same power, way better economy, and relialbility i can trust.
As i said, there are better options.
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Post by Zeyphly »

A person who deals in them in the eastern states is Dewars performance engines in Tangambalanga, I know he has put them in a few different things.
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Post by Tiny »

yes it can be done, kickdone is a pita but there are options, other than that you can manulize it as I have done

I have the 6.2 with a t400, if you are going from scratch I would say go the 6.5 as the 6.2 internals dont like much boost, 10psi seems to be the safe limit
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Post by GUtripper »

In a similar manner, isnt there a 5.7 litre chev diesel too?

Any comments on that engine?
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Post by KiwiBacon »

GUtripper wrote:In a similar manner, isnt there a 5.7 litre chev diesel too?

Any comments on that engine?
:popcorn:

BTW I found some efficiency figures (BSFC) for the optimiser 6500, which is the completely re-engineered 6.5.
At best point it needs 267g of diesel for each kilowatt hour at the crank. It's supposed to be 15% more efficient than the old 6.5

So that makes the old 6.5 burn 300g of diesel for each kilowatt hour at it's best.
Compare that to an Isuzu 4BD1T at 215g or VW 1.9 tdi at 197g.

Now those 16+ litres/100km figures kind of make sense.
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Post by 6.5 rangie »

yes there is a 5.7, thats the first version (old), pretty sure nothing compatable with the 6.2/6.5, sure it was a small block unlike the 6.2/6.5. Apparently a not so desirable engine, used to have a book on all three somewhere here.
The engine to get was the 6.5 with the dual thermostats and serpentine belt, around a 98 model i think.
There's a website from the states dedicated the the chev diesels (can't remeber what it was called, and i'm a member on there, been a long time :roll: ), have a read on there about them, heaps of good info.
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Post by Tiny »

6.5 rangie wrote:yes there is a 5.7, thats the first version (old), pretty sure nothing compatable with the 6.2/6.5, sure it was a small block unlike the 6.2/6.5. Apparently a not so desirable engine, used to have a book on all three somewhere here.
The engine to get was the 6.5 with the dual thermostats and serpentine belt, around a 98 model i think.
There's a website from the states dedicated the the chev diesels (can't remeber what it was called, and i'm a member on there, been a long time :roll: ), have a read on there about them, heaps of good info.
www.dieselplace.com
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Re: 6.5

Post by vk2icj »

In the city an honest 17 litres /100 Kilometers. I have got fully loaded on the highway 12 litres/100 kilometers but usually it is around 13 or 14. Mine is not turbo. I don't think I'd want that much power lol.

Chris

KiwiBacon wrote:
vk2icj wrote:Hello

I have a 6.5 Diesel in my 60 series. I didn't put it in the previous owner had Brunswick put it in. I'ts simple. It rumbles lovely. I have more than enough power for just about everything and I get economy similar to the standard 4.2 diesels and 3 litre Patrols in my club. Parts are easy to come by and Brunswick will overnight just about anything if you need. If these motors are done correctly they are great. OK REPCO doesn't stock every part but you would be suprised how easy it is to get the stuff you need when you have a bit of a look. Price wise I can't comment as I bought mine installed and for a good price. but performance wise I love mine. I love rolling down an on ramp for the freeway and letting the old girl roar. My neighbors say they hear me several blocks away lol
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Post by bogged »

All depends what its going in.. Duramax is a better option than a 6.5 Chev diesel.
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Post by sierrajim »

bogged wrote:All depends what its going in.. Duramax is a better option than a 6.5 Chev diesel.
The 6.5 has some reliability issues. I would do lots of research before going down this path and I don't mean talking to people who sell engines and conversion kits. The 6.5TD only generates 190hp in stock form, not many aftermarket bolt on upgrades due to the unreliability of the engine.

The Duramax is a far superior engine to say the least. It is however huge and wouldn't be the best candidate for the conversion into a Patrol/Cruiser.
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Post by PacMan »

Hi all,

i wouldn't touch a GM diesel 6.2 or 6.5 nonturbo / turbo. I drove them in Chevy Blazers and there are gutless even with turbo.

It shows a lot that GM give up with diesel and sells Duramax now.
The GM diesel are an old design heavy engine.

It took GM 50 years to get over the old iron cast v8 petrol engine and they still have two valve heads and push rods. ;)

my 2cent

greetings
Chris

By the way - somebody want to sell a ls1?
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Post by bogged »

sierrajim wrote:
bogged wrote:All depends what its going in.. Duramax is a better option than a 6.5 Chev diesel.
The 6.5 has some reliability issues. I would do lots of research before going down this path and I don't mean talking to people who sell engines and conversion kits. The 6.5TD only generates 190hp in stock form, not many aftermarket bolt on upgrades due to the unreliability of the engine.

The Duramax is a far superior engine to say the least. It is however huge and wouldn't be the best candidate for the conversion into a Patrol/Cruiser.
True but it has been done and engineered in Qld.. which really suprises me.
http://carl.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic144308-0-asc-0.php
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Post by 6.5 rangie »

Tiny wrote:
6.5 rangie wrote:yes there is a 5.7, thats the first version (old), pretty sure nothing compatable with the 6.2/6.5, sure it was a small block unlike the 6.2/6.5. Apparently a not so desirable engine, used to have a book on all three somewhere here.
The engine to get was the 6.5 with the dual thermostats and serpentine belt, around a 98 model i think.
There's a website from the states dedicated the the chev diesels (can't remeber what it was called, and i'm a member on there, been a long time :roll: ), have a read on there about them, heaps of good info.
www.dieselplace.com
now i remember, it was http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/
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Re: 6.5

Post by 6.5 rangie »

vk2icj wrote:In the city an honest 17 litres /100 Kilometers. I have got fully loaded on the highway 12 litres/100 kilometers but usually it is around 13 or 14. Mine is not turbo. I don't think I'd want that much power lol.

Chris
How, you must run small tyres and tall gearing and drive like my mum ;) , best i could do was 15 unladen in a rangie with 35's and geared relatively tall (just under 2000rpm at 100kph) :?
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Post by 6.5 rangie »

bogged wrote:
sierrajim wrote:
bogged wrote:All depends what its going in.. Duramax is a better option than a 6.5 Chev diesel.
The 6.5 has some reliability issues. I would do lots of research before going down this path and I don't mean talking to people who sell engines and conversion kits. The 6.5TD only generates 190hp in stock form, not many aftermarket bolt on upgrades due to the unreliability of the engine.

The Duramax is a far superior engine to say the least. It is however huge and wouldn't be the best candidate for the conversion into a Patrol/Cruiser.
True but it has been done and engineered in Qld.. which really suprises me.
http://carl.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic144308-0-asc-0.php
a guy on aulro.com (Gaz69)has/is putting one in a defender with the auto and atlas t/case. I think he's had it running aswell, looks like a good fit too.
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Post by old mate »

anyone know of any importers who sell the 6.5 not having much luck finding any on the web
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Post by old mate »

anyone know of any importers who sell the 6.5 not having much luck finding any on the web
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Post by bogged »

linquip, brunswick...

or try importing it yourself.. just make sure you go the correct year model for your emissions.
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Post by 6.5 rangie »

dewars near albury, gary croker in/near port maquarie, eagles, try look through a parts peddler or just parts magazine.
And please research this really well, i put them in the same catagory as Rancho shocks - Don't believe the hype! research it better. good luck
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Post by bogged »

6.5 rangie wrote:dewars near albury, gary croker in/near port maquarie, eagles, try look through a parts peddler or just parts magazine.
And please research this really well, i put them in the same catagory as Rancho shocks - Don't believe the hype! research it better. good luck
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Re: 6.5

Post by vk2icj »

I probably do drive like your mom haha. Especially with the standard H55f gearbox and diffs off the old 2h. I don't win any speed contests. I probably use a lot more when my right foot gets heavy. 100kph for me is about 2200rpm using the standard toyota tach (not sure how accurate that is)
6.5 rangie wrote:
vk2icj wrote:In the city an honest 17 litres /100 Kilometers. I have got fully loaded on the highway 12 litres/100 kilometers but usually it is around 13 or 14. Mine is not turbo. I don't think I'd want that much power lol.

Chris
How, you must run small tyres and tall gearing and drive like my mum ;) , best i could do was 15 unladen in a rangie with 35's and geared relatively tall (just under 2000rpm at 100kph) :?
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Post by 6.5 rangie »

Thats not much more than our 300tdi disco, thats only a 2.5l motor, one of the most economical around. From all the chev owners i know and have met none have had better than 15 thats all. Your doing well!
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Re: Chevy V8 Diesel

Post by Gabriel »

bogged wrote:Brunswick Diesel in Perth

Dont go the 6.2, plenty of threads on it.
Hello,

As another member already said, the 6.2 or 6.5 is not such a great invention... I do mount it in my Y60 LWB, with TH400 and 700R4, 4 years ago.

It is more a question about what use you gona give to the car. For competition, definitely its not the best option. Maybe for cross country trips, holidays, etc, yes, but do not expect performance.

I made the same mistake years ago, looking in the internet, asking the people, a lot of them saying its a good engine, etc. But if I would be now, I wouldn't change the TD42 for the 6.2 anymore. I would put a turbo on the TD42.

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Post by Dezza80 »

I got a 6.5 in a 97 80 series, if you live in the city you dont want one, belive me. depending on the time of year fuel usage can be from 13-16L/100km.
You can expect overheating issues with the turbo, i have spent a fair bit of time getting mine to run cool.

If you want to tow they are great, mine will tow a dual cab patrol race car sitting on 80-90 in 4th no worries but will use around 18-19 l/100km.

The 5.7 carries an oldsmobile badge from memory, a mate had one in an f100 eons ago in high school.

Just a reco motor retails for $9500, i think
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