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Fuct TDs, need new tougher shocks... Any recommendations???

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Fuct TDs, need new tougher shocks... Any recommendations???

Post by steve patrol »

G'day All,

Well one of the TDs decided to unscrew itself the other day and fall apart so im on the hunt for some new shocks, wanting at lest 300mm of travel in them, there going in the rear of a gq cab chassis.

Any recommendations???

Cheers

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Post by Harb »

I had heaps of trouble with TD's on one of my trucks....... using EFS Extremes on that one now and it gives no probs at all.....
Not adjustable, but big shafts etc are still there
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Re: Fuct TDs, need new tougher shocks... Any recommendations

Post by cooki_monsta »

steve patrol wrote:G'day All,

Well one of the TDs decided to unscrew itself the other day and fall apart so im on the hunt for some new shocks, wanting at lest 300mm of travel in them, there going in the rear of a gq cab chassis.

Any recommendations???

Cheers

Steve
HOLY SHOIt , there must be something in the water atm, one of my rears did that exact thing last weekend :@ :bad-words: :bad-words: :bad-words: extremly frustrating, which one did it on yours?

also dont know if it helps but im going foa coilovers :D :twisted:
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Post by Clanky »

Erk!
Any pics, so I can check mine?
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Post by cooki_monsta »

lol mines in 2 pieces in a bucket, and yep looks like the whole shaft unscrewed itself, then under articulation it popped out :)
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Post by dano80 »

I've heard of a few of these, some of the parts are seizing, I believe it had somehting to do with the adjustment?

Ive been running some Pro Comps for a bit and I'm really happy with them. They've taken a few big knocks and touch wood had no probs.

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Post by chpd80 »

Youv'e simply joined the MANY people who have had TD shocks, broke them, then moved on to something that can last.
Weve all been through it.
The only people who say good things about the tough dogs are those
who havent broken theirs YET, dont worry it WILL happen.

I broke mine, then went EFS, havent had a problem since.

Hopefully this saves someone buying thier crap and having to go
through what we have.
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Post by chicken »

Something i found in another thread ,

In mid to Late January Superior Engineering's Range Of remote Reservoir shocks to suit toyota and nissan's, 2,3,4,5,6 inch lifts will be released!
30 stage adjustable externally on rebound as well as 30 stage adjustable externally on the compression.
Fully rebuildable as well !
They come in either piggy-back or remote canister.
The are made to suit our specs and can be made to any size we require.
Price will not be much more expensive than the tough dog 45mm so that make them a hell of a lot better option than any other shock on the market.
Full details will be posted on our website in early to mid january and they will be available for sale by late january.
At this stage we are not giving away much more detail until there launch.
If you are looking at purchasing shocks within a month or so it may pay wait.
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Post by Troll00 »

Had the same issues with TD loved the in cab and being able to adjust them on the go but went EFS Xtremes found them to be OK so far a bit hard at speed on rough roads but I am running heavy duty springs to tow a van
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Re: Fuct TDs, need new tougher shocks... Any recommendations

Post by coxy321 »

steve patrol wrote:G'day All,

Well one of the TDs decided to unscrew itself the other day and fall apart so im on the hunt for some new shocks, wanting at lest 300mm of travel in them, there going in the rear of a gq cab chassis.

Any recommendations???

Cheers

Steve
I'd be giving Shane at Suspension Stuff a call before making any decisions. There are different shocks for different setups and driving styles, so what suits one person might not suit the other.

Eg. i run procomp shock as i like the soft (very soft) ride, and haven't had any dramas with them. One of my mates runs EFS Extremes in his 80s, they suit his car/springs and driving styles perfectly, but i find them far too stiff (rebound on them is hella-slow).

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Post by cooki_monsta »

chicken wrote:Something i found in another thread ,

In mid to Late January Superior Engineering's Range Of remote Reservoir shocks to suit toyota and nissan's, 2,3,4,5,6 inch lifts will be released!
30 stage adjustable externally on rebound as well as 30 stage adjustable externally on the compression.
Fully rebuildable as well !
They come in either piggy-back or remote canister.
The are made to suit our specs and can be made to any size we require.
Price will not be much more expensive than the tough dog 45mm so that make them a hell of a lot better option than any other shock on the market.
Full details will be posted on our website in early to mid january and they will be available for sale by late january.
At this stage we are not giving away much more detail until there launch.
If you are looking at purchasing shocks within a month or so it may pay wait.
any more info on these shocks>
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Post by bogged »

cooki_monsta wrote:
chicken wrote:Something i found in another thread ,

In mid to Late January Superior Engineering's Range Of remote Reservoir shocks to suit toyota and nissan's, 2,3,4,5,6 inch lifts will be released!
30 stage adjustable externally on rebound as well as 30 stage adjustable externally on the compression.
Fully rebuildable as well !
They come in either piggy-back or remote canister.
The are made to suit our specs and can be made to any size we require.
Price will not be much more expensive than the tough dog 45mm so that make them a hell of a lot better option than any other shock on the market.
Full details will be posted on our website in early to mid january and they will be available for sale by late january.
At this stage we are not giving away much more detail until there launch.
If you are looking at purchasing shocks within a month or so it may pay wait.
any more info on these shocks>
maybe try emailing/messaging Superior?
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Post by chicken »

bogged wrote:
cooki_monsta wrote:
chicken wrote:Something i found in another thread ,

In mid to Late January Superior Engineering's Range Of remote Reservoir shocks to suit toyota and nissan's, 2,3,4,5,6 inch lifts will be released!
30 stage adjustable externally on rebound as well as 30 stage adjustable externally on the compression.
Fully rebuildable as well !
They come in either piggy-back or remote canister.
The are made to suit our specs and can be made to any size we require.
Price will not be much more expensive than the tough dog 45mm so that make them a hell of a lot better option than any other shock on the market.
Full details will be posted on our website in early to mid january and they will be available for sale by late january.
At this stage we are not giving away much more detail until there launch.
If you are looking at purchasing shocks within a month or so it may pay wait.
any more info on these shocks>
maybe try emailing/messaging Superior?

Done it , they said they will have some more info in the next couple of days , when some arive .
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Post by 1MadEngineer »

hey guys, sorry about the (shhh!) info on the shocks but its still early days. Mick and I have been working hard on the designs of these and the first test set should be ready in a few days. Then I need to get them dyno'ed to give me some baselines on the valving and adjustments. I will post up all the info and the shock dyno curves as soon as i get them (prob mid/end next week). Once i have all the baselines then its tesing time - yeehaaa. I will start playing with custom valving (digressive / flutter disc stacks) to get and idea of what will be good for each specific vehicle and its use. The advantage then is we will have all the custom vale discs available and baselines dyno curves done so guys can just send shocks to us to be adjusted &/or freshened up to comp specs, which is the big advantage of having FULLY rebuildable shocks.

I will keep you guys posted!

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Post by chunks »

Please give these shocks an absolute caning before you release them, as the Boss ones were a bit of a dissapointment for many it seems.
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Post by steve patrol »

Thanks for all the info and thoughts! Im liking the sound of these new shocks! Keen to see the specs and pics! Also intreaged by these FOA's... Hmmmm what to do....
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Post by cooki_monsta »

ill be a happy guinea pig :D
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Post by Feenz »

Sweet I'm glad I read this I was close to getting a set of TD 45mm on all 4 corners.

Thanks.
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Post by cooki_monsta »

if u want i can sell u 3 :D :armsup:
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Post by steve patrol »

Hey cookie monster, you still have your shock lying around??? Went opposite lock in brookvale on friday to show em and find out what they can do, the piston is ment to be spot welded onto the shaft, mine had no signs of spot welding at all? Yours the same??? Also how long have you had them in you troll?? Bit of a manufacturing fault, it's been sent over to head office for a closer look, see what happens...
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Post by ditch42 »

whats so bad about boss shocks? how are they over correcgations? has anyone had a set?[/code]
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Post by pigletracing »

TJM's NEW XGS GOLD EDITION SHOCK is verry good, I did all the testing on them for 2 years in the FATROZA doing things like OUTBACK CHALLENGE ect ect, they never let me down & my ride handling was improved.

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Post by SIM79 »

ditch42 wrote:whats so bad about boss shocks? how are they over correcgations? has anyone had a set?[/code]
They have no warranty now so Suspension Stuff and Superior stopped selling them and they too soft on the hardest setting.
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Post by drafter01 »

hey mate, i am looking at getting a set of pro comp at the moment, dont think they are tougher then a tough dog, but they ride nice,,, i think the best way to go is to get fox shocks. u wont wreck them...
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Post by Raisins78 »

I heard the same when i was shock shopping.....and i end up buying the 45mm Boss adjustables (4H.com.au)
They are very good so far, and provide exellent adjustment.
if they have a down side (as they are a good price too) is that the eyelets are interchangable. (so they come seperate, for individual needs.)
the shaft is threaded(although quite chunky) at the top.
Now if you just screw em on and then bolt up and go, they will unscrew at the eyelet.
2 drops of Loctite and i have never had a problem since.(4H recommend loctite too.....should have asked!)
Handle great on road on 7-8 out of 12 on the dial.
off road i leave em on 7 or even down to 5 in the real flexy stuff.
had a curious feel after an hour and a half of corrungations (Cooma to Batemans, on the Bendethra dirt road) and they were warm, but not hot enough to make me let go.
I was at an average of 90-100km/h, setting on 7.

edit: oh and on setting 10 or above they are way WAY too stiff. shudders through the truck on small pot holes. on 3 or lower, i feel like im driving a boat. I bought mine early-mid last year
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Post by RIZZO »

how much are the fox shocks, i'm interested in them???????? anyone runnin any in truck???
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Post by Southern Cross 4x4 »

I would recommend EFS Extremes or Pro Comp. Neither of these are adjustable but are built strong at reasonable prices. We sell quite a few of these with no problems at all. Give me a call if your interested. Cheers Dave.
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Post by thehanko »

cooki_monsta wrote:lol mines in 2 pieces in a bucket, and yep looks like the whole shaft unscrewed itself, then under articulation it popped out :)
If it popped out under extension in normal use then would that not suggest that the damage could have been caused by them topping out - and ripping them selves apart? because they were too short for your vehicles suspension set up?

or have i missed something there?

Please note im not saying TD's dont have problems in any way shape or form. just wondering if there are contributing factors.
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Post by cooki_monsta »

steve patrol wrote:Hey cookie monster, you still have your shock lying around??? Went opposite lock in brookvale on friday to show em and find out what they can do, the piston is ment to be spot welded onto the shaft, mine had no signs of spot welding at all? Yours the same??? Also how long have you had them in you troll?? Bit of a manufacturing fault, it's been sent over to head office for a closer look, see what happens...
no signs of spot welding at all, and the shocks and springs were a matched pair bought as a kit!
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Post by kane077 »

Just thought i would piont out that there is no such thing as an indestructable shocker. They fit Fox shocks to some of the high end camper trailers and when i lived in the Kimberly i have seen them fail along with every other brand out there from bilsteins through to konis and OME's.
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