SHORT COURSE (who's coming up) 6th/ 7th march

[GRIMACE]

what was the final result / points score ? ? ?

[antt]

who were all the asian dudes getting round in opposite lock t-shirts???? they even had a marquee setup on the sunday?

[uqunder10s]

paul staib won modified, with mr sheet metal 2nd after shoot out in the gorge

darren bradshaw (?) won production

[beebee]

Had a great day but should have gotten there before 8:30am Sunday morning You get that when you break your chit before leaving home

Shane, is "Nugget Hill" what the announcer was referring to as "Rock Wall"? We didn't realise that it was part of the course and just drove it for the fun of it. If we had realised, then we might have approached it differently. I'm sure those holes at the bottom were considerably larger after I was finished

All in all a great day but I'd be interested to see how I did if I had actually entered properly.

[GRIMACE]

paul staib won modified, with mr sheet metal 2nd after shoot out in the gorge

darren bradshaw (?) won production

Vehicles they were in......... I beleive Paul is a nissan man ? ? ? COULD BE TOTALLY WRONG

[uqunder10s]

paul staib won modified, with mr sheet metal 2nd after shoot out in the gorge

darren bradshaw (?) won production

Vehicles they were in......... I beleive Paul is a nissan man ? ? ? COULD BE TOTALLY WRONG

Paul drove the white gq ute with white tube/blue checkerplate tray

MR Sheetmetal drives the little shorty 40 (I think)

Darren was in a jeep wrangler, goldish in colour i think - first time in 4wd!

[jeepgirl]

Darren was in a jeep wrangler, goldish in colour i think - first time in 4wd!

Kris was in the goldish wrangler. Believe Darren was in the burgandy one. Did a good job for a newbie!
Congrats to everyone. Was an interesting, yet eventful weekend.

[Black_TJ]

Production:

1st- Darren - Wrangler
2nd- Kris - Wrangler
3rd ??? - Rocky


Modified Verticle Assult

1st Jimmy B- Cherokee

[RUFF]

Production:

1st- Darren - Wrangler
2nd- Kris - Wrangler
3rd ??? - Rocky


Modified Verticle Assult

1st Jimmy B- Cherokee

Who won the Production Vertical Assult?

[big red]

Had a great day but should have gotten there before 8:30am Sunday morning You get that when you break your chit before leaving home

Shane, is "Nugget Hill" what the announcer was referring to as "Rock Wall"? We didn't realise that it was part of the course and just drove it for the fun of it. If we had realised, then we might have approached it differently. I'm sure those holes at the bottom were considerably larger after I was finished

All in all a great day but I'd be interested to see how I did if I had actually entered properly.

yep thats the hill...think i saw you as you cleared the top but didn't see you do the hill...nice effort on the dogs bowl and the log wall

mongrel...i tried for ages to do those

BTW thanks for the holes at the bottom of the log wall i drove past from left to right and thought "bugger that, dont want to try that one again and break another axle" but when i came back from the other way i could see a line and you guys egged me on so i gave it a go....was glad i did,it was awesome
[ bloody peer pressure

[LEXX]

Was a great day all round from what I hear.

I am stocked that the Jeep we sponsored took out the production class, made us grin from ear to ear. hehehe

Congrats to all the guys who took out placings, good effort from Kris in the TJ as well.

I'm hoping to make it up to the next round, can't wait.

[beebee]

Had a great day but should have gotten there before 8:30am Sunday morning You get that when you break your chit before leaving home

Shane, is "Nugget Hill" what the announcer was referring to as "Rock Wall"? We didn't realise that it was part of the course and just drove it for the fun of it. If we had realised, then we might have approached it differently. I'm sure those holes at the bottom were considerably larger after I was finished

All in all a great day but I'd be interested to see how I did if I had actually entered properly.

yep thats the hill...think i saw you as you cleared the top but didn't see you do the hill...nice effort on the dogs bowl and the log wall

mongrel...i tried for ages to do those

BTW thanks for the holes at the bottom of the log wall i drove past from left to right and thought "bugger that, dont want to try that one again and break another axle" but when i came back from the other way i could see a line and you guys egged me on so i gave it a go....was glad i did,it was awesome
[ bloody peer pressure

I hear what you are saying about peer pressure. Greg has said "come on let's drive this" and after a second or two of hesitation (kept to myself) I replied "shit yeah! Let's show these Nissans".

Then after stuffing around for 5 minutes to drive it you turned around and drove it second attempt. After that the rock stackers had their go and as far as I'm concerned - they didn't drive the same obsticle we did. By the time they were finsished, what was 2 x 37" or more deep holes at the bottom looked like a pair of car ramps 2 metres long and a paved road to the top. But yeah - you still made me see red ( ) when you drove straight up.

[MUSS]

Production:

1st- Darren - Wrangler
2nd- Kris - Wrangler
3rd ??? - Rocky


Modified Verticle Assult

1st Jimmy B- Cherokee

Who won the Production Vertical Assult?

dont think there is a vertical assault for production

[andy & di]

Ther was a vertical assult for the production class it was between a Dihatsu and a couple of wranglers but i cant remember who won it

[MUSS]

Ther was a vertical assult for the production class it was between a Dihatsu and a couple of wranglers but i cant remember who won it

AWESOME ....any pics anyone?

[big red]

the maroon jeep won the production class VA i think.

[big red]

BTW...there a new website for ASCC.

www.asccevents.com

not much on it yet as it has only just been started but as soon as glenn gets the results done they will be posted up on the site.

then everyone can see how they went compared to the rest...should be awesome and a real incentive to do better next time [or take spares]

Apparently no names just entrant number but i was number 23 for those that were interested.

shane

[Area54]

Was a great day all round from what I hear.

I am stocked that the Jeep we sponsored took out the production class, made us grin from ear to ear. hehehe

Congrats to all the guys who took out placings, good effort from Kris in the TJ as well.

I'm hoping to make it up to the next round, can't wait.

Yep, Darren's JBITS TJ (is that a plug?) performed very well on the tracks, Chick54 got some great shots, will be sending some through to darren, no doubt he will forward them on to you.

[Link]

BTW...there a new website for ASCC.

www.asccevents.com.au

No .au.. Address is http://www.asccevents.com

[Black_TJ]

I won Verticle assult for Production.... the only thing that got me up the hill was the Claws....

[big red]

post fixed link

[jeepgirl]

After that the rock stackers had their go and as far as I'm concerned - they didn't drive the same obsticle we did. By the time they were finsished, what was 2 x 37" or more deep holes at the bottom looked like a pair of car ramps 2 metres long and a paved road to the top. But yeah - you still made me see red ( ) when you drove straight up.

You guys are unbelievable. Who won vertical assault? And wasn't that for 4 tracks, not just the rock 'stacking' track?
Or did I miss the Jeep guys stacking more rocks at the bottom of all the tracks? Bastards! Those toy boys in their jeeps.

I really dont understand the ego shit betwen nissans/toyotas and then... Jeeps. You dont like us, you make it obvious at any event, yet we still manage to do a good job nevertheless.
Someone give me some insight into what i may be missing?

[antt]

After that the rock stackers had their go and as far as I'm concerned - they didn't drive the same obsticle we did. By the time they were finsished, what was 2 x 37" or more deep holes at the bottom looked like a pair of car ramps 2 metres long and a paved road to the top. But yeah - you still made me see red ( ) when you drove straight up.

You guys are unbelievable. Who won vertical assault? And wasn't that for 4 tracks, not just the rock 'stacking' track?
Or did I miss the Jeep guys stacking more rocks at the bottom of all the tracks? Bastards! Those toy boys in their jeeps.

I really dont understand the ego shit betwen nissans/toyotas and then... Jeeps. You dont like us, you make it obvious at any event, yet we still manage to do a good job nevertheless.
Someone give me some insight into what i may be missing?

beebee wasn't even in the comp, he was just out there giving it a go. and like he said, once rocks have been stacked, its a totally different obsticle. needless to say, he was the ONLY one who drove the logs section over the other side the whole weekend

[jeepgirl]

beebee wasn't even in the comp, he was just out there giving it a go. and like he said, once rocks have been stacked, its a totally different obsticle. needless to say, he was the ONLY one who drove the logs section over the other side the whole weekend

I knew you would reply. Pitty I didn't have money on it.
I never knew there were rules not to stack rocks? Glen said in the rules that whatever was available around the truck, was yours to use.
And I'm not dogging toyotas/nissans/zooks whatever. It seems to be the other way round bud. I just wish everyone would get over the ego thing and just compete. Dont tell me it doesn't happen cause it does.

We came down in the jeep and tried to ask a group of blokes a question. To which we got their backs turned to us, until a nice guy in a zook gave us the answer. Just seems like jeeps have to prove themselves.
I had a few guys coming up to me asking about the truck, how much it costs to repair and run etc. I have no problem delving into the specifics. Just wish everyone would tone the competiton ego's down a bit.

[Area54]

After that the rock stackers had their go and as far as I'm concerned - they didn't drive the same obsticle we did. By the time they were finsished, what was 2 x 37" or more deep holes at the bottom looked like a pair of car ramps 2 metres long and a paved road to the top. But yeah - you still made me see red ( ) when you drove straight up.

You guys are unbelievable. Who won vertical assault? And wasn't that for 4 tracks, not just the rock 'stacking' track?
Or did I miss the Jeep guys stacking more rocks at the bottom of all the tracks? Bastards! Those toy boys in their jeeps.

I really dont understand the ego shit betwen nissans/toyotas and then... Jeeps. You dont like us, you make it obvious at any event, yet we still manage to do a good job nevertheless.
Someone give me some insight into what i may be missing?

beebee wasn't even in the comp, he was just out there giving it a go. and like he said, once rocks have been stacked, its a totally different obsticle. needless to say, he was the ONLY one who drove the logs section over the other side the whole weekend

Lets put things in perspective here, Beebee drove the logs because he was not entered in the comp and could drive the logs with carefree abandon, wheelspin, and any other means to get over the obstacle. The competitors who had paid to compete were constrained to 2 attempts on the obstacle and had to control their wheelspin, to prevent accruing penalty points. If you are saying that the Beebee got up the obstacle where the other vehicles did not (without publishing the true facts), you would be opening up a huge challenge to the other competitors. For true boasting rights, Beebee should have paid his entry fee to compete and then he would have been on equal standing with the other competitors with scoring contraints. Beebee did not conquer the obstacle in 2 attempts, I'm not sure how many attempts he had, but it was more than 3.

Rock stacking is part of the competition for the ASCC, a totally different style of competition, much like the winch challenge is different. To some, rock stacking may seem like an affront to the manhood of the sport, but the theory behind the ASCC is that you are out for a drive with your mate, and you just had to get from point A to point B without winching, so you would stack where you need to to prevent damage to the vehicle and to improve your chances of success. I will say from (their mouths not mine) a lot of the other competitors thought the ski rope idea was a bit weak, similar to the rock stacking argument. So you can see each 4wd sport code has it's different methods of acheiving the same ends, competing in safety and penalty scoring low, just keep the criticisms quiet and within the proper circles, by being mature and professional the sport will grow.

FACT: The Cherokee of JimmyB was the only rig to drive the rock wall in one hit, but with rock stacking, and no spotters strap or ski rope. Did anybody count the number of attempts that was made by Beebee, each attempt would be acruing penalty points.

All paid competition vehicles competed the whole weekend with minimal damage over the whole weekend, apart from consumables like CV's etc. These are seasoned competitors with a lot of experience and well set up rigs. It is easy to criticise the comp from a distance, I would like to see more OL vehicles competing at ASCC for next round. Rock stacking is a penalised item, ski ropes are not, so come along and put the rigs and driving skill to the test, this way the boasting rights can be earned, instead of just by heresay and mis-information. Impress me enough, and I will put you in the highlights...

[Link]

You guys are unbelievable. Who won vertical assault? And wasn't that for 4 tracks, not just the rock 'stacking' track?
Or did I miss the Jeep guys stacking more rocks at the bottom of all the tracks? Bastards! Those toy boys in their jeeps.

Why do you assume it's about a make?? I was personally dissapointed at watching the vertical assult when the stacking started, and that's got nothing to do with Jeeps.. The motto for Vertical Assult is "No Guts No Glory" and I love watching trucks hammer it up the hills.. Watching people drive stacked walls is no where near as entertaining as watching them try it raw, and it's also nowhere near the accomplishment when they drive a stacked track.. The short course itself includes stacking as part of the event, but I really would like to see it kept out of vertical assult..

[antt]

you're right troy, beebee wasn't entered so he could take as many attempts as he wanted. but a couple of other vehicles did have more than 3 attempts at the log wall on sunday morning while they were waiting for the other competitors to show up, so i think it was a good effort that he managed to do it in the wet and muddy conditions

it was good that jb drove the wall first go, his rig is very capable. iirc he had a great run in the gorge last year as well.

seems this has all got a little out of hand over bugger all really

[jeepgirl]

seems this has all got a little out of hand over bugger all really

Yes I agree with you antt. Good points have been brought up tho.
To stack or not to stack? To get the ski rope out or not to get the ski rope out? We all like watching trucks boot the crap out of themselves and hammer it anywhere, not just on hills. But not everyone wants to break an axel first up in the day, nor at the end of it, if it can be helped.

Just wished it was more relaxed at times. You know me antt, and you know i'm very much into the 4wding side of life. Jeeps are my favourite because i've never owned a toyota, nissan etc. Tho i currently own a crap daihatsu. Waiting to get my next jeep. Was even thinking about a toyota.

Is the logan run still on this weekend? I'd like to get Jimmyb to enter. Haven't been in ages.

[nat34]

Yes Logan night run is on.

See the posting in Comp and events.

See you all there.

[1MadEngineer]

Just for the record, we did try to enter, and we spoke to everyone just so it was ok to run!
we had a great time, and even though the comp rules were different to what we ared used to, we just went out to have fun!
There is no use complaining about rules just study them and learn how to use them to your advantage. Some people need to rock stack, we prefer to drive the natural terrain. Big Red IMO had the best run up the wall he got the line i was trying to put dave on, well done, JB drove the easy line better than anyone, good job.
As for the rock wall, we thought the comp was over, so i asked glen if we could have a play and he said OK put on a show. So in true OL spirit picked the hardest line and hit it - no good rejected, and after heaps of attempts, tried a line i would use if goin for points & drove it in 2. but just enjoyed the challenge
And when everyone left we went for another play, drove the dog bowl with 1 reverse and the logs finally after dave LISTENED to my directions.
Would like to thank glen for another Great Event, keep up the good work!