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LJ and SJ

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LJ and SJ

Post by michael a »

ok guys been trying to sell some LJ gear but i keep getting asked is it WT or NT.

and is it 1 L or 1.3L

can we all have a lesson on the difference between the Lj and the Sj.

Pics would be great.
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Post by alien »

lol

LJ are 2 stoke engines - starting at the LJ10 (359cc), then 20 (more horsepower, same engine), 50 (539cc) and finally the LJ80 (797cc).

SJ's (Sierra) followed the LJ and superceded it with 1L and 1.3L engines which also gave us the NT and WT (although theres a crossover of 1.3L NTs in 1988)
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Post by joeblow »

alien wrote:lol

LJ are 2 stoke engines - starting at the LJ10 (359cc), then 20 (more horsepower, same engine), 50 (539cc) and finally the LJ80 (797cc).

SJ's (Sierra) followed the LJ and superceded it with 1L and 1.3L engines which also gave us the NT and WT (although theres a crossover of 1.3L NTs in 1988)
alien....you realise the lj80 is a four stroke yes?
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Post by Goatse.AJ »

And Holden's Drover came out as a NT 1.3l around 1985 or 1986. Not sure about the Sierras of the same vintage.
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Post by alien »

2... 4... its all the same =D theyre diagonally opposite each other on the number pad.
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Post by michael a »

Thanks guys hope fully this will clear up a for a few people on this site.
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Post by Highway-Star »

Alien, that is a rather poor and generalised attempt at explaining it....! :? , yeah and wrong about the 2 stroke part too :lol:



LJ
in Australia we sort of got 3 versions (more, but some are too quirky to matter right now). LJ's run tiny drivelines, and centred diffs front and rear.

LJ50 (3 cylinder 2 stroke, very narrow track)
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LJ80/81 (4 cylinder, 4 stroke 800cc, narrow track)
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LJ80/81 Stockman (same as LJ80/81, but with stronger axles, bigger bearings, and different front clip)
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SJ (Sierra)
square body, offset diffs, and loaded with luxury features!!!



1Litre (steel vertical bar grill, 1L motor, lower gearing, narrow track)
I don't have a picture of a 410 :oops:



NT (plastic grill, bigger sized 1.3 diffs, 1.3L engine, narrow track. Same as Holden Drover).
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(this car has a 1Litre bonnet without a hump though...)


WT (wide track, small cosmetic difference over previous)
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Coily (coil suspension, chain transfer, bling styling..., sort of wider track)
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Post by lay80n »

Top work - I will add this to the bible. Not that it will stop moronic people that are too lazy to search/read the bible.

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Post by 3 cyl »

Oh and the LJ50 in the first pic has an LJ80 bonnet.
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Post by Ben_Sierra »

You're forgetting the LJ20!

2 Cyl 359cc 2 Stroke.

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Post by Pagie »

alien wrote:LJ10 (359cc), then 20 (more horsepower, same engine)
The primary difference, the LJ10 was air cooled and the LJ20 was water cooled.

In the Suzuki Club of NSW there is quite a renaisance with LJ's at present. By July 1, will be looking to have historic rego in place.
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Post by Rotazuk »

3 cyl wrote:Oh and the LJ50 in the first pic has an LJ80 bonnet.
It could well be an LJ50 Bonnet , they were fitted to the later model LJ50's . I have one of each here :) , later model one has the pto as well :P

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Post by Highway-Star »

Rotazuk wrote:
3 cyl wrote:Oh and the LJ50 in the first pic has an LJ80 bonnet.
It could well be an LJ50 Bonnet , they were fitted to the later model LJ50's . I have one of each here :) , later model one has the pto as well :P

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Thats 3cyl 's car :D
he put the LJ80 bonnet on it.


I know about the variations on different model Lj50's and the 10 and 20's and the different type SJ410's and lots of other bits and pieces, but I decided to keep it reasonably simple :), just focusing on the main types and differences present in Australian models ;)
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Post by foolsp33d »

SJ410 1.0 litre NT (note the metal grill)
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Drover(easily ID by square headlights and horizontal grill)
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NT springs come off the chassis rails
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WT springs are outboarded from chassis rails
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Post by michael a »

Well it looks like i have started quite the debate.
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Post by chadd1981 »

what have you started??
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Post by mrRocky »

not to mention the mg410 suzuki's or maruti's whatever you want to call them.

MG410 - w/t with 1ltr motor, 4spd, 4.1 diffs, 1ltr grill, longer wheel base, fibreglass back section and roof, available in either styleside ute tray, or trayback's which were cut down to suit in vic upon arrival from india.

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Post by 3 cyl »

Were some of these Maruti's 5 speed? Wondering if the box is like a 1.3 but a F10 bellhousing? Heard of them but never seen one.
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Post by mrRocky »

pretty sure they were all 4spds in oz but they are identical on the exterior and the 1.3 5 spd internals can be swaped into it to make it a 5spd.
Even the yoke at the input shaft is the same, but tailshaft flange and diff flanges are different bolt pattern but can be swaped with 1.3 flanges
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