flexy leaf, trac bar systems

[S.CoXy]

After reading the bible ( lot of pic missing ) and lots of searchs and reading again, I am still undecided on how to set up my anti warp set up on my lux?
The main problems I have are....

1. The geometry on making a ladder bar system that dosent limit flex, ( Don't tell me any ideas just facts and working pix / tech drawing )

2. Will the duel trac bar systems as shown by the guys in by "Diff Chatter.." really stop warp when I snap 2nd low @ 5G in a 4CLY turbo pet with simexs.

Once agian tech drawings on geometry or link to this type of info would be great
Thanx in advance CoXy

[bender4865]

This is the one snake racing sells, with the creeper joints it wouldn't limit flex, and imho is a fairly easy design to copy.

[droopypete]

I have a sierra, spring over with a 1.6L engine, 6:1 transfer gears, 5.125:1 diff gears and 34" swampers, I could trash a new set of springs on the way to the bush, having played with a few different styles of anti wrap bars (with varying levels of success) they all influence travel in one way or another, my solution is quite unique and also effective.
I have fitted bearing blocks in place of U bolts, the leaf springs are still fixed to the diff and collars either side of the bearings control lateral shift, rotation is controlled by a triangulated bar, two vertical points on the diff to one hanger at the transfer case uni.
While this is not intended to address squat/anti squat issues it has solved spring bending and binding issues 100%, I am very happy with the results.
Peter.

[S.CoXy]

This is the one snake racing sells, with the creeper joints it wouldn't limit flex, and imho is a fairly easy design to copy.

Have looked at this as well as the sup eng ladder bar to and like the shackle mount on the chassis end, and yes i think they would be easy to copy.. would like to see pic of others copies.

droopypete, Very interested in your set up got any pic? As i have read and think the same that some setups can just give the diff something else to twist around....

[vk7ybi]

I have a sierra, spring over with a 1.6L engine, 6:1 transfer gears, 5.125:1 diff gears and 34" swampers, I could trash a new set of springs on the way to the bush, having played with a few different styles of anti wrap bars (with varying levels of success) they all influence travel in one way or another, my solution is quite unique and also effective.
I have fitted bearing blocks in place of U bolts, the leaf springs are still fixed to the diff and collars either side of the bearings control lateral shift, rotation is controlled by a triangulated bar, two vertical points on the diff to one hanger at the transfer case uni.
While this is not intended to address squat/anti squat issues it has solved spring bending and binding issues 100%, I am very happy with the results.
Peter.

Pictures?

[craz3d]

One that won't limit flex is one with a slip yoke joint.
You have it connected at 2 points upper and lower on the diff end, and a point or 2 points on the chassis/body end, Have one end slightly larger diameter than the other, put a few grease nipples in an have a slip joint that goes in and out and rotates sideways.

All the trackbar is for is to prevent the diff from rolling before the tires do, so as long as you have enough tube inside the other it'll prevent that perfectly .

[Seth]

Google Budbuilt mate they have a picture and some info on there site

[SIMMO84]

One that won't limit flex is one with a slip yoke joint.
You have it connected at 2 points upper and lower on the diff end, and a point or 2 points on the chassis/body end, Have one end slightly larger diameter than the other, put a few grease nipples in an have a slip joint that goes in and out and rotates sideways.

All the trackbar is for is to prevent the diff from rolling before the tires do, so as long as you have enough tube inside the other it'll prevent that perfectly .

Thats the way I was going to build mine, hope your right.

[locktup4x4]

I built these a few years ago. We never had any bind with this style.

Jason

[Rory]

Slip and twist is the only way to go for a tracbar imo. The setups shown about would be the ones to base ur design on, simple, effective and up out of the way.

[S.CoXy]

I built these a few years ago. We never had any bind with this style.

Jason

They look really good but you have a lot of leafs on your truck did you get any warp before you put it on? ( or are you running some monster engine?)

That Budbuilt site has some nice stuff on thanks mate

The Slip joint seams like a good simple set up.. Might pay for creeper joints or other to that effect tho

[locktup4x4]

They were built to counteract the axle wrap from buggy springs. Now that I think about it I built those about 10 or 11 years ago.

Jason