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Turbo rover V8

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Turbo rover V8

Post by dundee »

Hi guys new here,
Been working on landrovers now for years but still have not seen a turbo v8 rover anyone done it??? Was thinking of the idea of Turbo disco 1 as it is well over due for rebuild. Your thoughts
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Post by PacMan »

Never had one, but i was reading a lot that you cant boost them realy.
Same with charger.
Only 8 - 12 psi...

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Post by dundee »

you can boost anything, just how long it lasts is the question
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Post by nottie »

stika has a twin turbo set up in his moged cruiser Think malanco did the work on it.
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Post by 400HPONGAS »

I cant believe someone would spend close to $20,000 to twin turbo a rover V8 to make 400HP . My old Holden motor does better that , naturally aspirated on straight LPG . Unbelievable !!! A LS1/2/3 crate engine for $5000 would absolutely eat it !!!
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Post by waxenwane »

PM sprover on here or Aulro he has a turbo'd SD1
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Post by Sprover »

400HPONGAS wrote:I cant believe someone would spend close to $20,000 to twin turbo a rover V8 to make 400HP . My old Holden motor does better that , naturally aspirated on straight LPG . Unbelievable !!! A LS1/2/3 crate engine for $5000 would absolutely eat it !!!
Who spent $20,000 on a Rover Turbo conversion? I got my conversion second hand for $800 with a motor, T04 turbo and all the piping and manifolds.Mine runs straight gas with a Gas Research Throttle Body.Its a draw through set up which is the old way of doing it but it does the job nice for me.Yeah you can get a crate motor for $5000 but what about the rest of it.You think it will be up and running for $5000.I dont think so.

Mine only makes about 300 HP at the engine but they are only numbers.I could beat boosted Skylines GTST which would make more power then me.I will also never forget running an R8 Clubsport 255 KW with 3 other guys in my car(SD1).I was side by side with him and he couldnt get away.So yeah you can make 400 hp but that doesnt mean shit. :finger: :D :D If you want to know more just ask me Dundee.My cousin has some manifolds for a Rover Turbo conversion which he might sell for the right price.
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Post by 400HPONGAS »

You Know as well as i ,That if you had to start from scratch , that $20,000 isnt unrealistic , The NA LS1/2/3 will still eat your Twin turbo rover junk at Less than half the price.
Another hint old chap . GRA stuff is probably the worst LPG gear you could use for NA . GRA;s work a lot better than other gas carbs in the Boosted sense because they can with stand the boost , thats if you overcome the throttle butterfly lockout problem with them .
PS I can show you how to star getting decent flow out of those horrible GRA's by fitting annular discharge systems to them ,
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Re: Turbo rover V8

Post by dundee »

dundee wrote:Hi guys new here,
Been working on landrovers now for years but still have not seen a turbo v8 rover anyone done it??? Was thinking of the idea of Turbo disco 1 as it is well over due for rebuild. Your thoughts
I should of asked turbo v8 disco 1 not rover :?
Still keep the posts coming
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Post by dundee »

400HPONGAS wrote:I cant believe someone would spend close to $20,000 to twin turbo a rover V8 to make 400HP . My old Holden motor does better that , naturally aspirated on straight LPG . Unbelievable !!! A LS1/2/3 crate engine for $5000 would absolutely eat it !!!
5000 plus conversion kit
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Post by gonfellon »

would think just a piper cam and some head work and two inch spacer to lift plenium chamber up on a 9.35:1. would be better and cheaper than laggy turbo. as for supercharged i think it would force to much air into back pots , and i think alloy holden motors where based on rover/buick motors ;) bite bite :lol:
keep with rover v8
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Post by Sprover »

gonfellon wrote:would think just a piper cam and some head work and two inch spacer to lift plenium chamber up on a 9.35:1. would be better and cheaper than laggy turbo. as for supercharged i think it would force to much air into back pots , and i think alloy holden motors where based on rover/buick motors ;) bite bite :lol:
keep with rover v8

Im running a T04 which is large enough and has no lag at all.It reaches full boost by 1800 RPM :D I dont have to rev the car over 4500 RPM either.
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Re: Turbo rover V8

Post by Sprover »

dundee wrote:
dundee wrote:Hi guys new here,
Been working on landrovers now for years but still have not seen a turbo v8 rover anyone done it??? Was thinking of the idea of Turbo disco 1 as it is well over due for rebuild. Your thoughts
I should of asked turbo v8 disco 1 not rover :?
Still keep the posts coming
Same motor as the Disco.Except mine has a carb and not injected.
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Post by KiwiBacon »

400HPONGAS wrote:You Know as well as i ,That if you had to start from scratch , that $20,000 isnt unrealistic , The NA LS1/2/3 will still eat your Twin turbo rover junk at Less than half the price.
Given that the LS motors are getting towards twice the 3.5's displecement. You'd surely hope so.
How about comparing a 3.8 commodore V6 to the 3.5 V8 for a fair race?
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Post by stuee »

KiwiBacon wrote:
400HPONGAS wrote:You Know as well as i ,That if you had to start from scratch , that $20,000 isnt unrealistic , The NA LS1/2/3 will still eat your Twin turbo rover junk at Less than half the price.
Given that the LS motors are getting towards twice the 3.5's displecement. You'd surely hope so.
How about comparing a 3.8 commodore V6 to the 3.5 V8 for a fair race?
Surely when considering a major performance upgrade you are only concerned with price, not capacity?
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Post by Loanrangie »

stuee wrote:
KiwiBacon wrote:
400HPONGAS wrote:You Know as well as i ,That if you had to start from scratch , that $20,000 isnt unrealistic , The NA LS1/2/3 will still eat your Twin turbo rover junk at Less than half the price.
Given that the LS motors are getting towards twice the 3.5's displecement. You'd surely hope so.
How about comparing a 3.8 commodore V6 to the 3.5 V8 for a fair race?
Surely when considering a major performance upgrade you are only concerned with price, not capacity?
Only if you dont plan on driving it on the road, otherwise capacity is a factor.
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Post by stuee »

Loanrangie wrote:
stuee wrote:
KiwiBacon wrote:
400HPONGAS wrote:You Know as well as i ,That if you had to start from scratch , that $20,000 isnt unrealistic , The NA LS1/2/3 will still eat your Twin turbo rover junk at Less than half the price.
Given that the LS motors are getting towards twice the 3.5's displecement. You'd surely hope so.
How about comparing a 3.8 commodore V6 to the 3.5 V8 for a fair race?
Surely when considering a major performance upgrade you are only concerned with price, not capacity?
Only if you dont plan on driving it on the road, otherwise capacity is a factor.
As in engineering/roadworthy or drive-ability?
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Post by GRIMACE »

the main and only reason i would stick witht he rover v8 is the sound... OMG that rover sounds sweet as it burns off on its first road run.

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Post by Loanrangie »

stuee wrote:
Loanrangie wrote:
stuee wrote:
KiwiBacon wrote:
400HPONGAS wrote:You Know as well as i ,That if you had to start from scratch , that $20,000 isnt unrealistic , The NA LS1/2/3 will still eat your Twin turbo rover junk at Less than half the price.
Given that the LS motors are getting towards twice the 3.5's displecement. You'd surely hope so.
How about comparing a 3.8 commodore V6 to the 3.5 V8 for a fair race?
Surely when considering a major performance upgrade you are only concerned with price, not capacity?
Only if you dont plan on driving it on the road, otherwise capacity is a factor.
As in engineering/roadworthy or drive-ability?
Yes, legalities and engineering.
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Post by Loanrangie »

PacMan wrote:Never had one, but i was reading a lot that you cant boost them realy.
Same with charger.
Only 8 - 12 psi...

Upgrade - spend the money in a better engine than a 68 buick engine :finger: ...ls1?
68, the alloy buick V8 was released 1959 :roll:
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Post by stuee »

Loanrangie wrote:Yes, legalities and engineering.
So I gather in Vic putting a 5.7L motor into one that previously had a 3.5 can not be engineered while turbocharging is acceptable.
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Post by Loanrangie »

stuee wrote:
Loanrangie wrote:Yes, legalities and engineering.
So I gather in Vic putting a 5.7L motor into one that previously had a 3.5 can not be engineered while turbocharging is acceptable.
Not what i said, an engine swap requires an engineers cert regardless of capacity where as turbo'ing an existing motor no one is the wiser . ;)
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Post by stuee »

Loanrangie wrote:
stuee wrote:
Loanrangie wrote:Yes, legalities and engineering.
So I gather in Vic putting a 5.7L motor into one that previously had a 3.5 can not be engineered while turbocharging is acceptable.
Not what i said, an engine swap requires an engineers cert regardless of capacity where as turbo'ing an existing motor no one is the wiser . ;)
Ok I interpreted your comment as it wasn't possible. But if plod can not pick up a home made turbo conversion I question their ability to pick up a non standard engine, assuming same standard of work for both.

I would be more inclined to go down the path of an lsx series motor, cheap as chips, great stock power and fuel economy, while simple to tune for even more power.

Before turboing, or even a different brand engine wouldn't a 4.6 rover be better suited to for an intermediate power upgrade though?
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Post by zook4fun »

turbos should to be engineered as well same as a engine conversion.

the chev engine is a pretty good bit of gear but the cost would add up unless you can do all the addapter, wiring yourself.

if you make the piping up your self you should be able to get a turbo set up running for about a grand. keep it to 7 psi max, use small turbos so they are on boost right away, run a intercooler and don't rev the hell out of the engine and it will last for ever. think about it you will be running the same amount of air into the engine at 7 psi as a gen III may be more. i have played with a few turbo cars and they are your best band for your buck.

in my mind the 4.6 isn't a great engine it doesn't make that much power, uses a lot of fuel, is prone to the bores moving and parts aren't that cheap. they are a good engine for the p38 but i wouldn't put one in another car.
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Post by Loanrangie »

zook4fun wrote:turbos should to be engineered as well same as a engine conversion.

the chev engine is a pretty good bit of gear but the cost would add up unless you can do all the addapter, wiring yourself.

if you make the piping up your self you should be able to get a turbo set up running for about a grand. keep it to 7 psi max, use small turbos so they are on boost right away, run a intercooler and don't rev the hell out of the engine and it will last for ever. think about it you will be running the same amount of air into the engine at 7 psi as a gen III may be more. i have played with a few turbo cars and they are your best band for your buck.

in my mind the 4.6 isn't a great engine it doesn't make that much power, uses a lot of fuel, is prone to the bores moving and parts aren't that cheap. they are a good engine for the p38 but i wouldn't put one in another car.
Should being the operative word, but yes a low boost turbo system can be installed quite cheap if the engine is currently in good nic.
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Post by awright »

http://www.chevroletls1.com/rover_v8.html

looked into this a while ago and these guys seem to have all the goods although might cost some $$ landed here with all the bits it has been done before. The 5.5 L rover motor sounds interesting too especially with a twin turbo setup :)
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Post by awright »

also these guys who actually made a bolt on complete kit

http://www.roversd1.nl/sd1web/jspeed.html

I remember reading an os post on a forum over there that there were some janspeed equiped range rovers getting around but they are very rare. (you might find one on ebay lol they always list the rare stuff there)!
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Post by gonfellon »

Imo i think dyno running your motor and find out
what your motor is putting out and at what revs first.
no good having 400hp@8000rpm
and you never get it over 3500rpm
or having 300lbs of tourqe @ 1000 rpm
and your trucks set up for 4000rpm@100ks in top gear.
at least from the dyno test .you will get a better idea if a turbo
or bigger stroke or a squit of laughing gas is what you need .
before you start spending on upgrades

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Post by presto »

Sprover wrote:Im running a T04 which is large enough and has no lag at all.It reaches full boost by 1800 RPM :D I dont have to rev the car over 4500 RPM either.
What is it like at low revs on dirt? Does it pull and jerk when it starts to spool up when you're crawling in low range? Throw up a youtube link or something, I wanna see it!! I always wanted to turbo my Rangie :x
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