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well im trying to decide on what coilovers to use on my sas and im finding theres too many to choose from im using a 5 link in the front of my pajero with hilux diff, i'll be using the vehicle on road to get to the tracks so it will need some form or on road handling and also i want lots n lots of travel off road and comfort aswell. so does and one have some recommendations of brands and types that i should start to look for. any help would be great thanks Ryan.
95 swb 3.0v6 paj, lifted,34 simex jt2, twin locked, custom sliders, manual hubs, hi-mount which, sas comin
Brands, well all the main ones (can't list off the top of my head but have a look at a few builds like professors and the like).
Comfort, handling and flex, well, that's not the actual coilover so much as the internal pressure and the coil spring constant (coil rate).
Pick a brand, go talk to the guy who you're buying it from and tell him LOTS of info about your car, or take your car to them and let them fit them. It's some srs maths to work out the best coil and pressure for your car.
Handling and flex also mainly comes down to how you've got your links setup..
Comfort, handling and flex, well, that's not the actual coilover so much as the internal pressure and the coil spring constant (coil rate).
Pick a brand, go talk to the guy who you're buying it from and tell him LOTS of info about your car, or take your car to them and let them fit them. It's some srs maths to work out the best coil and pressure for your car.
Handling and flex also mainly comes down to how you've got your links setup..
We sell Race Runner
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So I’m sort of bias, but I have used King and Fox as well.
Seriously there is really very minimal difference between them,
Sway A Way use a nitride shaft, wont chip or rust which is the major reason why seals fail, while Fox use a chromed shaft which chip, and king use either a chromed shaft or Stainless Steel again which chip or dint with stone hitting them.
The shims stacks are the same; the SAW and King have the same ID, if I remember right, while Fox have a smaller one.
Bleed holes can be set for the same flow.
Max recommended pressure for King and Fox is at 150PSI, while SAW is 200PSI.
The key really is setting them up right.
Drop in to North West Offroad, and have a chat to them, they have a fair amount of experiance
Stu
www.swayaway.com
So I’m sort of bias, but I have used King and Fox as well.
Seriously there is really very minimal difference between them,
Sway A Way use a nitride shaft, wont chip or rust which is the major reason why seals fail, while Fox use a chromed shaft which chip, and king use either a chromed shaft or Stainless Steel again which chip or dint with stone hitting them.
The shims stacks are the same; the SAW and King have the same ID, if I remember right, while Fox have a smaller one.
Bleed holes can be set for the same flow.
Max recommended pressure for King and Fox is at 150PSI, while SAW is 200PSI.
The key really is setting them up right.
Drop in to North West Offroad, and have a chat to them, they have a fair amount of experiance
Stu
[quote="COOP"] By the way Mr engineering Guru maybe you better get another calculator or learn how to use it![/quote]
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44mm and 38mm Roll Cage Tube
Eibach Springs SAW Shocks
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44mm and 38mm Roll Cage Tube
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I would look at the non hydrulic racejackers from OPW, they look like a great quality set up and can use the air side of the shock for fine tuning. Also more compact then any dual rate coilover shock on the market. You can also look at Glen Dobbins coilovers, im sure you can still purchase his products.
Mark.
Mark.
Its not cool, unless it's got boost :)
okay guys thanks for all the input, i reckon ill go with the 2.5" RaceRunner piggy back type. they would go alright i guess, ill probably go over and talk to they guys at north west off road and see what they reckon about spring setups for them. im guessing when ya buy these they dont come with springs??
95 swb 3.0v6 paj, lifted,34 simex jt2, twin locked, custom sliders, manual hubs, hi-mount which, sas comin
They don't come with springs. Arguably the best springs are Eibach - they are great quality, and have a large range (download their catalogue). I have bought 2-1/2" I/D coilover springs off the shelf from their Australian branch.
Edit: it can be hard to find the correct Eibach download for coilover springs so here is a link to the pdf http://performance-suspension.eibach.co ... atalog.pdf
From this page http://performance-suspension.eibach.co ... _downloads
Edit 2: Incase you aren't aware, normally you use 2 coilover springs in series with the free length of each, equal to the coilover stroke i.e. 14" coilover, use 2 x 14" long springs.
Edit: it can be hard to find the correct Eibach download for coilover springs so here is a link to the pdf http://performance-suspension.eibach.co ... atalog.pdf
From this page http://performance-suspension.eibach.co ... _downloads
Edit 2: Incase you aren't aware, normally you use 2 coilover springs in series with the free length of each, equal to the coilover stroke i.e. 14" coilover, use 2 x 14" long springs.
John
This depends on what you are after, for most offroad Buggies and TT's on a 14" shock you would run a 16" and 12" spring the 16" being the main spring with the higher rate and 12" been the Secondary spring with a lower rate.Bush65 wrote: Edit 2: Incase you aren't aware, normally you use 2 coilover springs in series with the free length of each, equal to the coilover stroke i.e. 14" coilover, use 2 x 14" long springs.
i set up the rear of my GU with 14" x 400lb over 14" x 400lbs on a 14" SAW around 6 years ago
How you set up the spring system, is dependant on if you want a step up rate, how much of a step up, when you want the change in rate to happen.
The great thing about coil over set ups is the amount of adjust ability, which is also it's down fall
as for springs check out my sig
[quote="COOP"] By the way Mr engineering Guru maybe you better get another calculator or learn how to use it![/quote]
www.indurooffroad.com
44mm and 38mm Roll Cage Tube
Eibach Springs SAW Shocks
www.indurooffroad.com
44mm and 38mm Roll Cage Tube
Eibach Springs SAW Shocks
how much do you want to spend? a quick list of brands i can thiink of would be :
* Kings
* fox
* race runners
* FOA
* Rad Flow
the last 2 being cheaper options.
to get the best idea of settings you should get you car weighed with corner scales so you have weights for each corner of the car, from there you will be able to determine appropriate valving and then determine spring rates.
* Kings
* fox
* race runners
* FOA
* Rad Flow
the last 2 being cheaper options.
to get the best idea of settings you should get you car weighed with corner scales so you have weights for each corner of the car, from there you will be able to determine appropriate valving and then determine spring rates.
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