Chev Diesel into 100 Series

[Series - V8]

Looking for a transplant to my 100 series petrol auto. It's a great vehicle but is used mainly for towing and the fuel economy is horrendous. I can't afford a Turbo Diesel 100 series so am thinking will swap out the 4.5 petty for a 6.2 diesel.

Has anyone got experience with the chev bolted upto the 100 series cruiser 4 speed auto?

ALternatively has anyone put a five speed auto into a 105 cruiser.

Anyone got fuel consumption figures while towing with the 6.2 and auto combination.

CHeers
Eric

[Chucky]

Forget the 6.2l, go straight to the 6.5l chev. Much better engine.
However, for the cost of buying the engine and fitting, there are better options out there I'm sure.

I have the 6.5l (N/A) with 5 speed manual in a 60, and down low it is an amazing thing to drive, but higher up in the rev range it looses alot. You will still be going back down gears when hitting the long, steep hills.
Off road, they are a weapon thou.

As for fitting to an auto, I know a guy with the 6.2 auto in a 80 series and he is going to change it to a manual. I use 13.5l/100km towing a off road camper fully loaded (About 1.25T) as well as the car fully loaded on a recent trip down to TT. Around town I get about the 14.5-15.5l/100km but thats peak hour driving into Brisbane everyday, so alot of stop start and hard accelleration type of driving, plus I am heavy with the right foot and I do love the sound of the twin 3" pipe out the back.

On 4wd monthly there is a great thread on these engines in the general tech section.
I also have the complete american military maintainance manual for both the 6.2l and 6.5l chev on PDF if interested. This isn't copyrighted either so is free to give out.

Cheers
Chucky

[pozman]

i recently drove my folks new ex-ambo up to Sydney, gmc 3500, with the 6.5 turbo, think it was either 3 or 4speed auto, pulled like a freight train, sat on 110 the whole way there and did better fuel economy than the old mans 79rv, this is all with a 1.5t box on the back

i imagine they would be fairly good on fuel in a 100 series, like really good

[Kitika]

In my research I did before my conversion I'd steer clear of both motors. For the price it isn't worth it and there are quite a few niggly bits regarding heat and the fact it is a indirect injected dino motor that doesn't put out much power for the price of putting it between the rails. I went the LS route as they are cheap, plentiful and pretty good on fuel but each to there own.
Buying a cruiser with the chev diesel in it already would be the cheapest way to go in my opinion or go with petty V8 it only cost me $5300 to get mine back on the road.

[hulsty]

If you cant afford a turbo diesel 100 series I doubt very much you can afford an engine conversion, especially for that lump of old school poor motor. If you were going to do it at least use a decent motor like a Duramax or 1HDFT.

How much you budgeting for the conversion? 15K+ ?

[fester2au]

If you can get in and do a bit yourself I'd be looking at the 1HD-FTE. From what I've heard around you could just about get one down walk in/walk out for same sorta money as the Chev but it's still all factory Toyota and a far better everday motor than the old lump of lead Chev. A far overrated motor by todays standards in my opinion.

[Black Bull]

Thinking a Duramax or a Cummins with an Allison behind it myself.

If you have contacts in the states they could be an alternative. to buy them out here you'd have to mortgage your left nut

[Series - V8]

Thanks for the replies.

Agreed there are better motor options available but doubt they can be done for the same price or quite as simple. THe chevy is mechanically injected so only need one wire and that is to stop it. THis means limited chopping of wiring loom. I am the first to admit the chev is over rated and out dated but here in lies the the beauty. Can do road side repairs, any bush mechanic can work on it, I can do the transplant myself. Also, I have driven a chev powered rangie quite a bit. Definitely not the most powerful motor but has heaps of torque plus it has a note that would put a horn on a jellyfish

There is an awesome web site describing the engine swap of a toyota (75 ser?) turbo diesel v8 into a 100 series. I reckon that has got to be the ultimate. Also the turbo diesel 6cyl is a brilliant motor but not sure if anyone has done this swap. The 2 major drawbacks about the HDFTE is starting price is 30 grand (high kms) also they are all IFS. I will not go to an IFS until it is the last 4by on the planet. I can get a high kms petrol 100 series for $14,000 (leaving 15 to 25 grand for transplant plus a return on the motor)

Duramax or cummins are also great options but I think cost a lot more but am willing to be proven wrong. I will look into it this.

I really only posted to find someone with a tranplanted motor bolted to a cruiser 4 speed auto to see how it stacks up to the higher torque. I am deciding wether I should go to a T400?

Once again thanks for the advice.

[badger]

Get a 1hdfte put in it. They are a bolt in swap, heaps of power, not to heavy, toyota reliable, 12L/100k around town.
Only thing missing is the "I have a v8 diesel" bragging rights.

If you realy need to use a yank motor spend the 30k and get a duramax or cummins

Edit: If you do decide to go the v8 route please put an exhaust on it unlike that rangie POS sounds worse than a 253 thong slapper

[Hardcorr]

I've got a 6.5 Turbo with a T700R in one of my 80s. Bought it with the engine conversion done, have had some issues with it along the way, the standard auto (T700) couldn't handle the torque, so I've now just put a full modified auto in, the injector pump from factory was too small, so with a new injector pump fitted it now hauls arse. There isn't alot of horsepower, but the torque is there. It runs well with the 37's on it.

Would I do it again... not sure. The power is good, it will tow all day with cruise on 115klm and stay there. The lock up in the auto is a manual switch so you need to turn on and off all the time, but offroad, it's great.
I towed our boat to Hinchinbrook for a holiday, boat weighing almost 1.5t with the car loaded as well, we got around 12.5l per 100.
I've gone to a set of EL Falcon fans on the front, and this fixed an overheating issue that I had.
Overall now, if this one ever dies, I'd go for an LS2 or LS3 swap, probably LS3, but as this is an offroad toy only now, I love the idea of the diesel and it's simplicities for water and fault finding.
I'm tossing up now whether I rebuild it as a tourer, or sell it and trick up my 40th for touring duties, but it's petrol/gas and this is an issue.

Cheers
Corry

[erik121]

just turbo your 4.5 mate

[Kitika]

Agreed there are better motor options available but doubt they can be done for the same price or quite as simple. THe chevy is mechanically injected so only need one wire and that is to stop it. THis means limited chopping of wiring loom.

Ls1 is only about 6 wires hooked up to ignition plus your starter motor and alternator and it is a runner. Motor is far cheaper and so are the parts and are super common with almost unlimited upgrades if your after more power. Your's being petrol already makes it easier to upgrade the internal fuel pump aswell and your away. I did all mine at home and have never done a conversion before and didn't have any dramas. Stupidly powerful too even in stock form and has heaps more torque than my old diesel and the old man has trouble keeping up in his 4.7 100series too.

[erik121]

hey mate, when i had my petrol 80 i looked into getting a turbro jsut for the extra overtaking power and towing power. i now have an 80 TD and thats fine no overheating with my stock manifold i dont even have an intercooler yet. i run about 4psi stock and no overheating there.

Theres some turbo kits out there check this one out in melbourne, give them a ring or email, http://www.turbonetics.com.au/3077/index.htm thats for the "AXT Turbo kit" the cost is around $3,000 + fitting to set your self up with a turbo and intercooler. A turbo will give you the same results as a supercharger if tuned corectly. there shouldnt be any real problems with the turbo overheating i havnt herd of any of my mates overheating. around half a dozen mates with turbo conversions. if you chuck an insallation mat around it and make sure it has a good manifold with airflow you should be fine.

But that axt turbo kit is the way to go without going thru engine conversions and superchargers and spending wayyy to much money, it has all you need with a 2 peice manifold and all looms and piping and that for your conversion.


+ why not look into getting gas research aswell for your petrol engine. and when adding a turbo to ur petrol engine make sure you build a large dose pipe so u get that soot soot sootatattoatotoatotooooo sound. haha good luck mate, Erik.

ohh and more power = more fuel economy. and you may be able to get more power out of gas/lpg than petrol with a turbro.

and if you research landcruisers being built and worked in the middle east 80 series 100's and 200's the petrol engines from the 100 and 80 series people are getting over 1000hp with about $60,000 in there engine. and about 2000hp with $100,000, the petrol 4.5L 1fzfe are 1 of the best and strongest engines around the world mate. so are the diesys they keep on going and going.

My 2 cents, Erik.