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THen you've little choice but to by the cheapest you can find.
I'd strongly recommend you stip it immediatley and replace the "grease" ( more like varnish ) with some decent stuff and check the assembly for clearances.
The ones i've seen / worked on weren't badly designed - but sometimes badly assembled.
However - Buy plasms rope as the steel cable is just plain dangerous
And P.S. the Feroza's electrical system will need a significant upgrade to run even a moderate size electric winch under load for any period of time.
I'd strongly recommend you stip it immediatley and replace the "grease" ( more like varnish ) with some decent stuff and check the assembly for clearances.
The ones i've seen / worked on weren't badly designed - but sometimes badly assembled.
However - Buy plasms rope as the steel cable is just plain dangerous
And P.S. the Feroza's electrical system will need a significant upgrade to run even a moderate size electric winch under load for any period of time.
( usual disclaimers )
It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
When you have spent as much time "re-engineering" Feroza's as i have you usually get called things that aren't so "pleasant" 
There are larger alternators that will fit ( later Applause 80A - but pulleys may differ ) and IIRC Ferozamaniac has fitted a toyota ( ? ) one of similar specs.
In any case the biggest battery you can squeeze in will be of some help - i buy mine by measurement rather than recomendation..... but it only delays the inevitable with a stock alternator.
There are larger alternators that will fit ( later Applause 80A - but pulleys may differ ) and IIRC Ferozamaniac has fitted a toyota ( ? ) one of similar specs.
In any case the biggest battery you can squeeze in will be of some help - i buy mine by measurement rather than recomendation..... but it only delays the inevitable with a stock alternator.
( usual disclaimers )
It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
It has exact the same brackets but much bigger 
Its a question of "for how long.....". With out a decent sized alternator its going to take substantially longer to recharge and will not be assisted anywhere near as much whilst winching.
Whilst its virtually impossible to keep up with the energy demands of an operating electric winch via a charging system, the energy has to be replaced somehow and if you haven't got a lot of spare capacity ( which many cars don't ) then it takes a long time to recharge.
So....... there's nothing free in this world - a large battery will delay the ineviatable but the alternator is the always going to have to make good eventually. Short sessions ( say a minute or so ) no issue, but sustained winching - your going to have to pause and let things recharge for quite some time ( this means at a high idle speed... )
So..... there you have it - of course there's always a hand winch
And don't undersetimate the effect of the extra weight out the front - it will make a significant change in the Feroza's handeling / ride.
Whilst its virtually impossible to keep up with the energy demands of an operating electric winch via a charging system, the energy has to be replaced somehow and if you haven't got a lot of spare capacity ( which many cars don't ) then it takes a long time to recharge.
So....... there's nothing free in this world - a large battery will delay the ineviatable but the alternator is the always going to have to make good eventually. Short sessions ( say a minute or so ) no issue, but sustained winching - your going to have to pause and let things recharge for quite some time ( this means at a high idle speed... )
So..... there you have it - of course there's always a hand winch
And don't undersetimate the effect of the extra weight out the front - it will make a significant change in the Feroza's handeling / ride.
( usual disclaimers )
It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
Hello to all feroza-owners from Greece!
I am the one Ferozamaniac is talking about.
I've fitted in my car an alternator 110A, was found in a Celica GT4 European Engine.
Also replaced the battery with a Varta of 95Ah (largest that can fit in stock position without modifications)
In my car I also have a winch, a T-Max 6500lb.
(that is why I did the electrical modifications)
I did replace the steel cable with the plasma rope as MM said, it is much safer and also much easier to use.
I can work him non-stop with load for about 10min before battery starts to drop (about 2 times completely in-out of a 30meter rope)
I am very pleased with the all modification and I surely recomend it.
I tryed to upload pictures but it didn't work because of small number of posts..... sorry!
I am the one Ferozamaniac is talking about.
I've fitted in my car an alternator 110A, was found in a Celica GT4 European Engine.
Also replaced the battery with a Varta of 95Ah (largest that can fit in stock position without modifications)
In my car I also have a winch, a T-Max 6500lb.
(that is why I did the electrical modifications)
I did replace the steel cable with the plasma rope as MM said, it is much safer and also much easier to use.
I can work him non-stop with load for about 10min before battery starts to drop (about 2 times completely in-out of a 30meter rope)
I am very pleased with the all modification and I surely recomend it.
I tryed to upload pictures but it didn't work because of small number of posts..... sorry!
You need to identify the plug your Feroza uses so your new alternator will have the same plug.
Either one of the two plugs your feroza must have.
Also you must take out your alternator and find the exact same brackets the other alternator will have. Also you might need to fit a longer belt to be adjusted correctly.
Either one of the two plugs your feroza must have.
Also you must take out your alternator and find the exact same brackets the other alternator will have. Also you might need to fit a longer belt to be adjusted correctly.
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The alternator I used didn't need any change at all for the plug to be installed. You can either buy it with a double or a triple plug. I had a double in my Feroza and that is how I bought the new one.
The only change I made, I replaced the original charging wire with a bigger one because the original one was getting heated a lot when the winch was working in full load and that's all......
If you take a close look in the second picture you can see the original plug and wire fitted in the new alternator.
No other changes where made at all.
Same plug same pulley same brackets even the same belt was used.
You can install it as easy as the OEM part.
The only change I made, I replaced the original charging wire with a bigger one because the original one was getting heated a lot when the winch was working in full load and that's all......
If you take a close look in the second picture you can see the original plug and wire fitted in the new alternator.
No other changes where made at all.
Same plug same pulley same brackets even the same belt was used.
You can install it as easy as the OEM part.
The extra wire in the three terminal version is to control output. The idea is that for hard acceleration ( wierd on a Feroza i know..... ) the alternator is commanded to drop its output to a lower value thus boosting the available engine power.
Frankly I can't remember if this extra wire had to go to + or negative to get full output but it certainly wasn't difficult.
Although it was a real pain getting the plug in the back of the alternator becuase its larger size put the scoket in a "challenging" location under the water pump hose.
Also keep in mind the different Feroza's had differing belts some were plain V and other PolyVee so the pully situation requires a little investigation - don't assume.
Frankly I can't remember if this extra wire had to go to + or negative to get full output but it certainly wasn't difficult.
Although it was a real pain getting the plug in the back of the alternator becuase its larger size put the scoket in a "challenging" location under the water pump hose.
Also keep in mind the different Feroza's had differing belts some were plain V and other PolyVee so the pully situation requires a little investigation - don't assume.
( usual disclaimers )
It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
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