VIC TRACK CLOSURES

Post by **RANUKI** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:13 am

Well Victorians Bush Users,

The time has come, the government is now trying to make Victoria like NSW and QLD, they want to close all our tracks. This goes for everyone, 4wd's, bike & quad riders, horse riders, even walkers

Many may have noticed the closure of alot of Womabat forest, well this is the model for their closure plan.

SO, We all must turn out to say "NO" (for want of a better word).

TUESDAY 23RD MARCH
R.S.L. HALL, CENTERWAY, GREYTHORN
(VAFWDC meeting place)

For information please ph
Brian Cox - 9857 5209 or Milton Oliver 0412 368 918
Email rsvp to vafwdc@vafwdc.org.au

BE HERD - THIS MAY BE OUR LAST CHANCE.

Post by **ORSM45** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:47 am

i thought greythorn would have been miles away from me, but i was gonna go anyway. but when i looked it up its about 10kms from me. so im definately going.

MaccA

Post by **Aus4wd** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:04 am

We will definately be there, if we don't fight now, all could be lost and we will all end up on private property and lose all the great tracks in Victoria. Come on everyone, lets all put in our bit and fight for our recreation. We have to get the word out to EVERYONE!

Anyone who is seriously interested in our sport will be there to support it.

Post by **Ben** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:52 pm

I'm there! :bad-words:

Post by **ToNkA** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:04 pm

Someone care to share where Greythorn is?

Post by **Evan** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:35 pm

If your in Doncaster, drive down doncaster road towards the freeway, cross over the freeway and about a km or 2 up the road is some shops, thats greythorn.

E

Post by **bogged** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:44 pm

RANUKI wrote:BE HERD - THIS MAY BE OUR LAST CHANCE.

SPELLING POLICE

HERD.. BE HEARD UNLESS WE ARE COWS

Post by **bogged** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:15 pm

Anyone from down dande/frankston way going??

Wouldn't mind taggin along..
NFI where I'm going.

Post by **ORSM45** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:16 pm

straight up bruce! got a melways?

i noticed mt dissapointment has already started closing tracks

Post by **Nev62** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:28 pm

Hey guys\gals, don't forget to yell and stomp a lot else be ye like oldie NSW, recreation areas everywhere. One small catch, no recreation allowed within the recreation areas. Some half brain thinks it should make us all feel good just knowing it is there :bad-words:

Post by **ORSM45** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:36 pm

i hate that! they say SAVE IT FOR OUR CHILDREN, stuff our kids i wanna enjoy it! its not hurting it anymore if your still driving on the tracks that are already there. :bad-words:

Post by **bad_religion_au** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:58 pm

yeah, save it for our children, meanwhile we'll build a toxic waste dump over there, and cut all that old growth forest out over there, so we can fund our own retirement package, which is better paying than most the poor sobs that we represent can earn in a life time

Post by **Butt Craic** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:15 pm

A mate up here in the Snowy Mountains works for the National Parks and Wildlife Service. He reckons (off the record) that the NPWS would spend about half the amount maintaining tracks if they were opened that they do repairing the gates that people (mainly pig shooters) destroy. The latest trend seems to be to drive an excavator in to rip the gates which are now largely built out of old railway tracks out of the ground.

Just about all the public tracks that are open around here can be driven in 2 wheel drive with a camper trailer on behind by a ricer. For the sake of a weekend, do your bit to prevent the same fate being inflicted on Victorians . . . if for nothing else than to ensure that there is still good wheeling close to Melb when I come home to visit the olds!

Post by **ORSM45** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:33 pm

yeah thats pretty true.

i heard one of their reasons were because of OH&S and that they cant maintain tracks over 15* steep.

Post by **bogged** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 11:23 am

Is it my suspicious mind, but do others think this could be a perfect occasion for Vicroads and the Bacon to have a 'roadblock' setup to check out roadworthys on 4wds??

Post by **LOCKY** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 11:24 am

That is why I will take the company unroadworthy truck.

Passes without a front bar or mudflaps. :lol:

Post by **Guy** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:37 pm

gotta love haveing two 4x4's .. one stock neat looking GU and an ugly Zuk .. will see how I go with other things I gotta get done tonight .. but I am gonna try to be there ..

Post by **grimbo** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:46 pm

generally it costs more to shut a track down permantely than it does to keep it open.

Post by **Aus4wd** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:17 pm

grimbo wrote:generally it costs more to shut a track down permantely than it does to keep it open.

Yeah, but Parks Victoria claim the opposite, it costs more to keep tracks open with regular maintenance than the close it with a gate!

Post by **Guy** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:28 pm

Aus4wd wrote:
grimbo wrote:generally it costs more to shut a track down permantely than it does to keep it open.

Yeah, but Parks Victoria claim the opposite, it costs more to keep tracks open with regular maintenance than the close it with a gate!

And you can make $$$ off a closed track with fines ...

I hope that the 4wd community can put forward a united front and fight this... we give up to many things without a fight ..

Post by **RANUKI** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:30 pm

bogged wrote:
RANUKI wrote:BE HERD - THIS MAY BE OUR LAST CHANCE.

SPELLING POLICE

HERD.. BE HEARD UNLESS WE ARE COWS

SPELLING IS FINE- YES BE LIKE A HERD, (OF CATTLE)

ALL TOGETHER., IN OTHER WORDS

good to see your up to pace bogged.. :rofl:

Post by **greg** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:04 pm

I'm going tonight - in stealth mazda mode

Post by **hottiemonster** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:00 pm

anyone comming through berwick / beaconsfield, wouldnt mind a lift if anyone has got a seat available thanks.

Post by **bogged** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:02 pm

hottiemonster wrote:anyone comming through berwick / beaconsfield, wouldnt mind a lift if anyone has got a seat available thanks.

Ditto for langy area, car has oil pissin out somewhere...

Post by **davejb** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:45 pm

1 seat in the Mav or 3 in the car leaving Nth Dandy 6-30 ish

Dave

Post by **80diesel4play** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:46 pm

bogged wrote:Is it my suspicious mind, but do others think this could be a perfect occasion for Vicroads and the Bacon to have a 'roadblock' setup to check out roadworthys on 4wds??

This is the most pointless thing I have heard - for god sakes - turn up and fight for the right... Instead of posting crap!

Gees Bogged - or is it TOOL? :finger:

Anwyays - I'm going - once I get out of here(work 2 nite) - gonna be an interesting meeting - CFM groups are gonna kill the access we all love and deserve.... friggin greenie tree huggers....

C U All there - in my unroadworthy unengineered track driving machine... :finger:

Post by **ORSM45** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:32 pm

i went and had no idea what the hell was goin on. who was that big guy up the back in the suit?

and it was only about wombat, not places like dissa or toolangi.

i just wanna be able to drive on the tracks that are there, i dont wanna mess up anything else eccept the occasional tree that gets in my way.

but the greenies are too Grimace for that, they want no one to have fun, except they are allowed to smoke as many trees as they feel.

MaccA

Post by **Nev62** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:38 pm

I know it is still early but how did the meeting go?????

Post by **ORSM45** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:50 pm

if i knew what the hell was goin on... id tell you first.

i think things are gonna get worse tho. we wont win. so from now on in your day packs bring bolt cutters.

MaccA

Post by **Nev62** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 9:09 pm

383FJ45 wrote:if i knew what the hell was goin on... id tell you first.

i think things are gonna get worse tho. we wont win. so from now on in your day packs bring bolt cutters.

MaccA

Unless you guys can work-out deals like we have to do up here (NSW). The clubs do some work for parks and wildlife in return for "SOME" access. This might just be a quick clean up but there have been times when walking tracks were getting over-grown so clubs have been asked to drive along the walking tracks a few times (though I hear this is the expection). If they are talking total lock-out then that sucks big time :cry:

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